Why No Giuseppe’s?

John Mercier · 03-23-2022, 06:29 PM

People have already ''returned'' to work.
NH has an unemployment rate that is pre-pandemic... has for a while now.

WinnisquamZ · 03-23-2022, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by John Mercier

People have already ''returned'' to work.

NH has an unemployment rate that is pre-pandemic... has for a while now.

Correct. If you are unemployed in NH it’s because you can’t or don’t want to work

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John Mercier · 03-23-2022, 08:56 PM

It is really higher paying employers scavenging from the lower paying employers.
Even I continually get recruitment offers... that is something at my age, I never would have dreamed of.

Loub52 · 03-23-2022, 09:02 PM

Informative graphic from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. You can select workforce participation rates as a total or by demographic. Any way you slice it, there are fewer labor participants than there were 2 years ago.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employmen...ation-rate.htm

Wonder if some that were working, but didn’t necessarily need to in 2020 took a look in the mirror and decided to hang up the cleats after the last couple of years.

John Mercier · 03-23-2022, 11:05 PM

Probably. But everyone looks at the national numbers rather than local. I don't think we have workforce participation numbers for NH, and definitely not for the Lakes Region.

With high transportation costs, and higher pay to the south, it is unlikely that working age population is willing to travel north... so we come up short.

If they immigrate here, and pay our housing prices, they would need a lot more pay than many of these ''tourist'' businesses are willing to pay on an annualized with benefit package basis.

Everyone that has left us is going to a higher paying job...

phoenix · 03-24-2022, 03:05 PM

local businesses still need a return to prior levels of temporary foreign workers for the busy summer season

John Mercier · 03-24-2022, 06:13 PM

Probably higher than previous levels.

Loub52 · 03-24-2022, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by John Mercier

Probably. But everyone looks at the national numbers rather than local. I don't think we have workforce participation numbers for NH, and definitely not for the Lakes Region.

With high transportation costs, and higher pay to the south, it is unlikely that working age population is willing to travel north... so we come up short.

If they immigrate here, and pay our housing prices, they would need a lot more pay than many of these ''tourist'' businesses are willing to pay on an annualized with benefit package basis.

Everyone that has left us is going to a higher paying job...

New Hampshire’s employment-population ratio numbers closely mirror the National numbers

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LASS...de_graphs=true

..so, about Giuseppe’s…they have a great pepperoni calzone, among other things

John Mercier · 03-24-2022, 11:30 PM

It doesn't matter if it mirrors the national numbers.
My point was that labor is not going to travel long distance - like from another State or even other major southern NH population to the Lakes Region to work wait/waitress-type jobs.

So we are stuck with the labor we have... and have to be competitive in our compensation package with all other industries looking for help.

DickR · 03-25-2022, 11:54 AM

In Heath's supermarket at Center Harbor, they have cleared out floor space for two or four self-checkout stations. I was told that they were doing this to address shortage of staff for the upcoming busy season.

So, for restaurants facing a shortage of waitstaff for the summer, I wonder if some might do something similar and move part of the operation to a buffet/cafeteria style. Many customers might like something like that if they don't want to wait for someone to come say hello, bring a glass of water, take an order, and show up some time later with the food. If all the customer wants is to pick the food dishes off a shelf, pay at a checkout station, and grab a seat at a table somewhere, the cafeteria model might solve a problem.

thinkxingu · 03-25-2022, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DickR

In Heath's supermarket at Center Harbor, they have cleared out floor space for two or four self-checkout stations. I was told that they were doing this to address shortage of staff for the upcoming busy season.

So, for restaurants facing a shortage of waitstaff for the summer, I wonder if some might do something similar and move part of the operation to a buffet/cafeteria style. Many customers might like something like that if they don't want to wait for someone to come say hello, bring a glass of water, take an order, and show up some time later with the food. If all the customer wants is to pick the food dishes off a shelf, pay at a checkout station, and grab a seat at a table somewhere, the cafeteria model might solve a problem.

I'd punch a kitten for a buffet or two in the area. I love me some variety!

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John Mercier · 03-25-2022, 06:23 PM

I think some places already use that format.

TheTimeTraveler · 03-25-2022, 08:02 PM

Cafeteria or buffet style means of obtaining restaurant food (i.e. self service) is a very good idea. However, with Covid issues fresh on peoples mind over the past two years I am not sure people will be too keen on the concept.

And, what will happen if there is another bad Covid outbreak?

I guess testing it out may show its success or failure.

03-23-2022, 09:02 PM	#4
Loub52 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Concord, NH Posts: 225 Thanks: 221 Thanked 53 Times in 43 Posts	Informative graphic from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. You can select workforce participation rates as a total or by demographic. Any way you slice it, there are fewer labor participants than there were 2 years ago. https://www.bls.gov/charts/employmen...ation-rate.htm Wonder if some that were working, but didn’t necessarily need to in 2020 took a look in the mirror and decided to hang up the cleats after the last couple of years. __________________ Thanks, Loub52

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phoenix Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: phoenix and moultonboro Posts: 1,592 Thanks: 65 Thanked 288 Times in 204 Posts	local businesses still need a return to prior levels of temporary foreign workers for the busy summer season __________________ it's tough to make predictions specially about the future

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03-23-2022, 06:29 PM	#1
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,991 Thanks: 3 Thanked 680 Times in 562 Posts	People have already ''returned'' to work. NH has an unemployment rate that is pre-pandemic... has for a while now.

03-23-2022, 08:56 PM	#3
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,991 Thanks: 3 Thanked 680 Times in 562 Posts	It is really higher paying employers scavenging from the lower paying employers. Even I continually get recruitment offers... that is something at my age, I never would have dreamed of.

03-23-2022, 11:05 PM	#5
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,991 Thanks: 3 Thanked 680 Times in 562 Posts	Probably. But everyone looks at the national numbers rather than local. I don't think we have workforce participation numbers for NH, and definitely not for the Lakes Region. With high transportation costs, and higher pay to the south, it is unlikely that working age population is willing to travel north... so we come up short. If they immigrate here, and pay our housing prices, they would need a lot more pay than many of these ''tourist'' businesses are willing to pay on an annualized with benefit package basis. Everyone that has left us is going to a higher paying job...

03-24-2022, 06:13 PM	#7
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,991 Thanks: 3 Thanked 680 Times in 562 Posts	Probably higher than previous levels.

03-24-2022, 11:30 PM	#9
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,991 Thanks: 3 Thanked 680 Times in 562 Posts	It doesn't matter if it mirrors the national numbers. My point was that labor is not going to travel long distance - like from another State or even other major southern NH population to the Lakes Region to work wait/waitress-type jobs. So we are stuck with the labor we have... and have to be competitive in our compensation package with all other industries looking for help.

03-25-2022, 11:54 AM	#10
DickR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 765 Thanks: 4 Thanked 260 Times in 172 Posts	In Heath's supermarket at Center Harbor, they have cleared out floor space for two or four self-checkout stations. I was told that they were doing this to address shortage of staff for the upcoming busy season. So, for restaurants facing a shortage of waitstaff for the summer, I wonder if some might do something similar and move part of the operation to a buffet/cafeteria style. Many customers might like something like that if they don't want to wait for someone to come say hello, bring a glass of water, take an order, and show up some time later with the food. If all the customer wants is to pick the food dishes off a shelf, pay at a checkout station, and grab a seat at a table somewhere, the cafeteria model might solve a problem.

03-25-2022, 06:23 PM	#12
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,991 Thanks: 3 Thanked 680 Times in 562 Posts	I think some places already use that format.

03-25-2022, 08:02 PM	#13
TheTimeTraveler Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 964 Thanks: 302 Thanked 303 Times in 188 Posts	Cafeteria or buffet style means of obtaining restaurant food (i.e. self service) is a very good idea. However, with Covid issues fresh on peoples mind over the past two years I am not sure people will be too keen on the concept. And, what will happen if there is another bad Covid outbreak? I guess testing it out may show its success or failure.

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