Ethanol Free Gasoline

SAB1 · 03-07-2022, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tis

And some stations cut you off at $75.00

and that is frustrating…..

tis · 03-07-2022, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SAB1

and that is frustrating…..

Sab, do you know why they do that? To save on their inventory or does their cc company require them to do it? Or something else?

SAB1 · 03-07-2022, 04:48 PM

I don’t know the answer but I don’t think it’s the cc company as some stations I’ve had shut off at 100. Yesterday I was in Augusta and it shut off at 75

SAB1 · 03-07-2022, 04:51 PM

Come to think of I filled up in Orono Thursday and the pump didn’t stop till full and that was $108.

FlyingScot · 03-07-2022, 09:03 PM

In the 70s, when OPEC shocked the world, demand was inelastic in the short term--people had to keep buying gas. But demand was very elastic in the longer term as efficiency measures kicked in.

Impossible to know how long this price jump will last, but the real solution to being at the whim of Russia, OPEC, etc to to get off of fossil fuels in ways that are relatively easy. Insulation, solar panels, electric cars--for many people, these are easy to do and give a great financial return

John Mercier · 03-07-2022, 09:56 PM

We are still inelastic in the short term. It is a mental/emotional addiction.

For instance, insulation. I have yet to have a customer that asks about the energy efficiency of a window or door. I haven't had one of those in nearly a year. Windows and doors are holes in R21 wall systems at best; when placed wrong they can even cause overheating in the summer months requiring more AC usage.

Electric vehicles? They aren't even bothering to purchase higher fuel mileage vehicles.

Solar panels? They aren't even bothering to cut electric usage.

If history repeats... this will go until it collapses all at once... we don't seem to learn from history, even recent history.

SAB1 · 03-07-2022, 10:00 PM

So it seems but as always going green has its costs. Solar panels for example seem like a great idea but things change quickly when you look into the finite life span they have and the disposal of the hazardous waste within them.

MAXUM · 03-08-2022, 12:34 AM

Here in Idaho ethanol free gas is available everywhere, pull into just about any gas station and look for the blue nozzle. Some offer both regular and super.

After several months now of using it exclusively both my truck and car are getting about 3-4 MPG better fuel efficiency never mind run way better.

Don't know why here and also in Utah it is widely available.

John Mercier · 03-08-2022, 12:55 AM

I think he is focusing on independence more than ''green''.

NH imports all its fossil and nuclear fuels from someplace else.
It has served us well... but we do feel the shocks.

Part of that is while our electric grid has many different generation sources... some more dominate than others... that only works on electric elements.
Most of our vehicles and space heating isn't electric based.

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03-07-2022, 04:48 PM	#3
SAB1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tuftonboro Posts: 1,275 Thanks: 196 Thanked 336 Times in 244 Posts	I don’t know the answer but I don’t think it’s the cc company as some stations I’ve had shut off at 100. Yesterday I was in Augusta and it shut off at 75

03-07-2022, 04:51 PM	#4
SAB1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tuftonboro Posts: 1,275 Thanks: 196 Thanked 336 Times in 244 Posts	Come to think of I filled up in Orono Thursday and the pump didn’t stop till full and that was $108.

03-07-2022, 09:03 PM	#5
FlyingScot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA Posts: 2,552 Thanks: 1,412 Thanked 1,075 Times in 668 Posts	In the 70s, when OPEC shocked the world, demand was inelastic in the short term--people had to keep buying gas. But demand was very elastic in the longer term as efficiency measures kicked in. Impossible to know how long this price jump will last, but the real solution to being at the whim of Russia, OPEC, etc to to get off of fossil fuels in ways that are relatively easy. Insulation, solar panels, electric cars--for many people, these are easy to do and give a great financial return

03-07-2022, 09:56 PM	#6
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,993 Thanks: 3 Thanked 680 Times in 562 Posts	We are still inelastic in the short term. It is a mental/emotional addiction. For instance, insulation. I have yet to have a customer that asks about the energy efficiency of a window or door. I haven't had one of those in nearly a year. Windows and doors are holes in R21 wall systems at best; when placed wrong they can even cause overheating in the summer months requiring more AC usage. Electric vehicles? They aren't even bothering to purchase higher fuel mileage vehicles. Solar panels? They aren't even bothering to cut electric usage. If history repeats... this will go until it collapses all at once... we don't seem to learn from history, even recent history.

03-07-2022, 10:00 PM	#7
SAB1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tuftonboro Posts: 1,275 Thanks: 196 Thanked 336 Times in 244 Posts	So it seems but as always going green has its costs. Solar panels for example seem like a great idea but things change quickly when you look into the finite life span they have and the disposal of the hazardous waste within them.

03-08-2022, 12:34 AM	#8
MAXUM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kuna ID Posts: 2,755 Thanks: 244 Thanked 1,942 Times in 802 Posts	Here in Idaho ethanol free gas is available everywhere, pull into just about any gas station and look for the blue nozzle. Some offer both regular and super. After several months now of using it exclusively both my truck and car are getting about 3-4 MPG better fuel efficiency never mind run way better. Don't know why here and also in Utah it is widely available.

03-08-2022, 12:55 AM	#9
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,993 Thanks: 3 Thanked 680 Times in 562 Posts	I think he is focusing on independence more than ''green''. NH imports all its fossil and nuclear fuels from someplace else. It has served us well... but we do feel the shocks. Part of that is while our electric grid has many different generation sources... some more dominate than others... that only works on electric elements. Most of our vehicles and space heating isn't electric based.