Virus Expert Just Said These States in Trouble

Woodsy · 12-08-2021, 02:17 PM

Thats my point....

Its not a surprise to anyone that the majority of people in the hospital are unvaccinated... they use the 76% number as a scare tactic.

The important number is the 24% of the people in the hospital are fully vaxxed!

Currently CT has a population of 3.565M... of that population, 2.598M are vaccinated, so just under 1M (966,115) people are unvaxxed. They currently have 525 people hospitalized with Covid... so 126 of those are fully vaxxed!

Its easy to skew numbers to scare people...

Woodsy

Seaplane Pilot · 12-08-2021, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

Thats my point....

Its not a surprise to anyone that the majority of people in the hospital are unvaccinated... they use the 76% number as a scare tactic.

The important number is the 24% of the people in the hospital are fully vaxxed!

Currently CT has a population of 3.565M... of that population, 2.598M are vaccinated, so just under 1M (966,115) people are unvaxxed. They currently have 525 people hospitalized with Covid... so 126 of those are fully vaxxed!

Its easy to skew numbers to scare people...

Woodsy

It's always been about fear. An article came out 2 days ago entitled "COVID-19 - a Pandemic of Fear ‘Manufactured’ by Authorities: Yale Epidemiologist". Coincidently, Yale is in Connecticut.

thinkxingu · 12-08-2021, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

It's always been about fear. An article came out 2 days ago entitled "COVID-19 - a Pandemic of Fear ‘Manufactured’ by Authorities: Yale Epidemiologist". Coincidently, Yale is in Connecticut.

It looks like that quote was part of an Epoch Times interview, for anyone looking.

I mean, I think he's right, though I also think it wasn't as terrible as it sounds. We're approaching 800k deaths with incredible mitigation measures—what would that number be otherwise?

That being said, I've always thought there was a middle ground we were never able to achieve, not unlike our political state as a whole.

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FlyingScot · 12-08-2021, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

Thats my point....

Its not a surprise to anyone that the majority of people in the hospital are unvaccinated... they use the 76% number as a scare tactic.

The important number is the 24% of the people in the hospital are fully vaxxed!

Currently CT has a population of 3.565M... of that population, 2.598M are vaccinated, so just under 1M (966,115) people are unvaxxed. They currently have 525 people hospitalized with Covid... so 126 of those are fully vaxxed!

Its easy to skew numbers to scare people...

Woodsy

I'm not sure that any of this scary to anybody, or why you think it's noteworthy that there are 126 vaxxed people in the hospital. The numbers in your post show that an unvaxxed person is about 8.5X more likely to end up in the hospital than a vaxxed person

John Mercier · 12-08-2021, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingScot

I'm not sure that any of this scary to anybody, or why you think it's noteworthy that there are 126 vaxxed people in the hospital. The numbers in your post show that an unvaxxed person is about 8.5X more likely to end up in the hospital than a vaxxed person

Because it never hits home until the hospital bill comes due.

Woodsy · 12-08-2021, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingScot

I'm not sure that any of this scary to anybody, or why you think it's noteworthy that there are 126 vaxxed people in the hospital. The numbers in your post show that an unvaxxed person is about 8.5X more likely to end up in the hospital than a vaxxed person

As was pointed out below.... I was schooled! My apologies

Woodsy

FlyingScot · 12-08-2021, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Thats my point....

Its not a surprise to anyone that the majority of people in the hospital are unvaccinated... they use the 76% number as a scare tactic.

The important number is the 24% of the people in the hospital are fully vaxxed!

Currently CT has a population of 3.565M... of that population, 2.598M are vaccinated, so just under 1M (966,115) people are unvaxxed. They currently have 525 people hospitalized with Covid... so 126 of those are fully vaxxed!

Its easy to skew numbers to scare people...

Woodsy

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

Because it is all about the math... and you must be doing that new math....

IF the numbers in CT are to be believed, on the surface it appears that vaxxed or unvaxxed, you have very similar chances of landing in the hospital.

CT population = 3.565M or 3,565,000
% Fully Vaxxed = 72.19% or 2.573.5M or 2,573,573.5
% Unvaxxed = 27.81% or .991M or 991,426
(No need to bring the 84.3% with at least 1 dose into the math)

525 people currently hospitalized in CT
399 (76%) of those hospitalized are fully vaccinated
126 (24%) of those hospitalized are unvaccinated

The math is very similar as far as your chances of hospitalization go... 76% of those hospitalized represent 72.2% of the population. 24% of those hospitalized represent 27.8% of the population. The numbers seem to indicate that despite being vaxxed, you have a slightly GREATER chance of hospitalization.

Woodsy

I don't mind people teasing me with laugh emojis, "new math", etc when I've made a mistake. That's all in good fun. But you've got a bit of egg on your face here.

If you read both of your posts again, you will see that you've flipped the numbers. In your first post you noted that 24% of the hospital patients are vaxxed, but in your second post, you say that 76% of hospital patients are vaxxed. Oops

If you do the math again using your original numbers, you will see they suggest an unvaxxed person is 8.5X as likely to end up in the hospital.

trfour · 12-09-2021, 01:43 PM

" "We, right now, have more patients in the hospital, overall, than we have had at either of the two peaks previously. You come in one day and you say this is the worst we've ever seen it and you come back the next day and it's even worse. This is very concerning, what's going on right now," UMass Memorial Health Care President and CEO Dr. Eric Dickson told during an interview ABC News Wednesday."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...edgdhp&pc=U531

trfour · 12-09-2021, 02:05 PM

These 6 States Have Half of All COVID Hospitalizations in the U.S.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...edgdhp&pc=U531

trfour · 12-10-2021, 02:34 PM

"New York enacted a mask mandate at the beginning of the pandemic in April 2020 that lasted more than a year. The new mask mandate applies to both patrons and staff and will be in effect from Monday to Jan. 15, after which the state will reevaluate."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ne...edgdhp&pc=U531

fatlazyless · 12-13-2021, 05:51 AM

There's a lot of info here ...... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...vid-cases.html ..... all about New Hampshire ....."How trends have changed in New Hampshire" ...... updated Dec 12, 2021 ...... hopefully it can be seen without a pay wall?

trfour · 12-13-2021, 02:33 PM

Another grim Covid-19 milestone: At least 800,000 Americans have died.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...covid-rcna8380

trfour · 12-13-2021, 05:41 PM

WASHINGTON (The Hill) — An Oxford University study published on Monday found that two-dose COVID-19 vaccines generate a lower antibody response against the omicron strain, suggesting that the variant could lead to more infections among the fully vaccinated and previously infected.

Fauci: ‘If it becomes necessary to get yet another boost, then we’ll just have to deal with it’.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...edgdhp&pc=U531

trfour · 12-14-2021, 06:52 PM

The CDC briefing Tuesday detailed two scenarios for how the omicron variant may spread through this country. The worst case scenario has spooked top health officials, who fear a fresh wave, layered on top of delta and influenza cases in what one described as “a triple whammy,” could overwhelm health systems and devastate communities, particularly those with low vaccination rates.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/om...edgdhp&pc=U531

12-08-2021, 02:17 PM	#1
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,974 Thanks: 80 Thanked 984 Times in 443 Posts	Thats my point.... Its not a surprise to anyone that the majority of people in the hospital are unvaccinated... they use the 76% number as a scare tactic. The important number is the 24% of the people in the hospital are fully vaxxed! Currently CT has a population of 3.565M... of that population, 2.598M are vaccinated, so just under 1M (966,115) people are unvaxxed. They currently have 525 people hospitalized with Covid... so 126 of those are fully vaxxed! Its easy to skew numbers to scare people... Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

12-09-2021, 01:43 PM	#8
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,067 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	Covid-19 in Mass. " "We, right now, have more patients in the hospital, overall, than we have had at either of the two peaks previously. You come in one day and you say this is the worst we've ever seen it and you come back the next day and it's even worse. This is very concerning, what's going on right now," UMass Memorial Health Care President and CEO Dr. Eric Dickson told during an interview ABC News Wednesday." https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...edgdhp&pc=U531 __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

12-09-2021, 02:05 PM	#9
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,067 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	For now, These 6 States Have Half of All COVID Hospitalizations in the U.S. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...edgdhp&pc=U531 __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

12-10-2021, 02:34 PM	#10
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,067 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	New York "New York enacted a mask mandate at the beginning of the pandemic in April 2020 that lasted more than a year. The new mask mandate applies to both patrons and staff and will be in effect from Monday to Jan. 15, after which the state will reevaluate." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ne...edgdhp&pc=U531 __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

12-13-2021, 05:51 AM	#11
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,169 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 310 Thanked 1,103 Times in 812 Posts	There's a lot of info here ...... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...vid-cases.html ..... all about New Hampshire ....."How trends have changed in New Hampshire" ...... updated Dec 12, 2021 ...... hopefully it can be seen without a pay wall? __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!

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12-13-2021, 02:33 PM	#12
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,067 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	Another grim Covid-19 milestone: At least 800,000 Americans have died. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...covid-rcna8380 __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

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trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,067 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	WASHINGTON (The Hill) — An Oxford University study published on Monday found that two-dose COVID-19 vaccines generate a lower antibody response against the omicron strain, suggesting that the variant could lead to more infections among the fully vaccinated and previously infected. Fauci: ‘If it becomes necessary to get yet another boost, then we’ll just have to deal with it’. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...edgdhp&pc=U531 __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

12-14-2021, 06:52 PM	#14
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,067 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	The CDC briefing Tuesday detailed two scenarios for how the omicron variant may spread through this country. The worst case scenario has spooked top health officials, who fear a fresh wave, layered on top of delta and influenza cases in what one described as “a triple whammy,” could overwhelm health systems and devastate communities, particularly those with low vaccination rates. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/om...edgdhp&pc=U531 __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

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