Virus Expert Just Said These States in Trouble

[WinnisquamZ]

Information from a local media outlet that’s not MUR
https://granitegrok.com/mg_windham/2...njured-or-dies


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[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by WinnisquamZ

Information from a local media outlet that’s not MUR
https://granitegrok.com/mg_windham/2...njured-or-dies


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This is awesome: all the links in that article are either to Gateway Pundit, a super biased site, or, get this, Granite Grok itself.

Like, Granite Grok cites itself as a source. The last time I saw something as bad was when Red State wrote an article that quoted Twitchy (owned by same company) that had quoted, you guessed it, Red State.

So objective!

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[TiltonBB]

Florida is reporting the lowest amount of coronavirus cases per capita in the nation after Gov. Ron DeSantis was widely criticized by media outlets for his handling of the virus.

The Sunshine State reported a daily average of 1,393 coronavirus cases as of Friday, six per 100,000, which was a two percent decrease over the last two weeks.

At the same time Florida reported the lowest amount of new cases in the country per capita, coronavirus cases are surging in many states where strict lockdown orders were issued by Democratic governors.

Michigan, where Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer imposed some of the most controversial restrictions in the nation during the height of the pandemic, leads the nation in daily coronavirus cases per capita.

The hope is that the states like Michigan and Minnesota who are experiencing a surge in cases will "learn from Florida's experience" and promote treatments that work as opposed to lockdowns which "we've seen time and time again" do not.

[Lakegeezer]

Watch out for news from GraniteGrok and especially the Gateway Pundit that Grok points to. Both are part of the fake news propaganda machine that grab nuggets of truth, then use common logical fallacies to weave a curtain of falsehoods. Using their logic, one could claim that drinking coffee or living in the lakes region causes all the ailments and deaths experienced there. Degree of causality is not part of the databases referenced, yet a high degree of causality is assumed by the articles. Check out Reuters's take on it to get a mainstream opinion.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Florida is reporting the lowest amount of coronavirus cases per capita in the nation after Gov. Ron DeSantis was widely criticized by media outlets for his handling of the virus.

The Sunshine State reported a daily average of 1,393 coronavirus cases as of Friday, six per 100,000, which was a two percent decrease over the last two weeks.

At the same time Florida reported the lowest amount of new cases in the country per capita, coronavirus cases are surging in many states where strict lockdown orders were issued by Democratic governors.

Michigan, where Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer imposed some of the most controversial restrictions in the nation during the height of the pandemic, leads the nation in daily coronavirus cases per capita.

The hope is that the states like Michigan and Minnesota who are experiencing a surge in cases will "learn from Florida's experience" and promote treatments that work as opposed to lockdowns which "we've seen time and time again" do not.

Here’s a related article: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...kless-florida/

[TiltonBB]

Sometimes the facts are just what they are. And sometimes, people still refuse to believe what is true!

[John Mercier]

Florida is in it outdoor mode, while Michigan is moving to the indoor mode.

That isn't new. They have seen it on every cycle.

What the concern is of each Governor is not the new cases, it is the hospitalization rate and the damage to the economy. They have to work to balance those out.

Same with several of the federal vaccine mandates, socialized medicine through the VA, Medicare, and Medicaid plays a big part in federal costs. For the State of NH it acts as a higher percentage cost than other States, so the Governor takes notice... and even private employers are noticing it in their new health insurance rates.

If we had a million new cases in NH tomorrow, but no one went to the hospital or lost a single day of work... it would not be an issue.

[TiltonBB]

Amid Michigan's fourth coronavirus surge, state health leaders issued a public health advisory on November 26, recommending everyone over the age of 2 wear a mask, regardless of vaccination status, when at indoor gatherings.
Businesses and other establishments were encouraged to put policies in place that require masks for all people who enter their buildings.

In the past week Florida has had 7 new Covid cases per 100,000 residents. Highly masked Michigan has had 85 new cases per 100,000.

Again, the facts speak for themselves.

[SAMIAM]

Latest statistics show 86% of NH has at least one dose and 64% are fully vaccinated.
Seems to me that if the vaccine was working that new cases would be declining and not rising.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Latest statistics show 86% of NH has at least one dose and 64% are fully vaccinated.

Seems to me that if the vaccine was working that new cases would be declining and not rising.

Ummm...two things: 1. that leaves over 1/3 of the NH population unvaccinated and 2. we've known that breakthrough infections can occur but that major symptoms and death are largely avoided. That still holds true—a quick search of the lit shows that the great majority of people being hurt by Covid are unvaccinated.

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[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Ummm...two things: 1. that leaves over 1/3 of the NH population unvaccinated and 2. we've known that breakthrough infections can occur but that major symptoms and death are largely avoided. That still holds true—a quick search of the lit shows that the great majority of people being hurt by Covid are unvaccinated.

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A study conducted in the UK shows the opposite:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...vid-deaths-uk/

For those quick to “debunk” any information found in a conservative outlet, a link to the actual study can be found in the article.

[Newbiesaukee]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

A study conducted in the UK shows the opposite:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...vid-deaths-uk/

For those quick to “debunk” any information found in a conservative outlet, a link to the actual study can be found in the article.

Actually, if you read the study that gateway pundit misinterprets and misrepresents, it says nothing of the sort that you are suggesting. The conclusion of the report is that vaccines are safe and effective.

[Newbiesaukee]

I’ve avoided discussion some of these issues on the forum, but “in for a penny…..”

The statement has been made on these forums that:

Everyone should do his own research and draw conclusions as to what is best for him. ( substitute gender neutral,if you wish).

Absolutely nothing wrong with this position, BUT…

I don’t know squat about winterizing cars, the best kind of dock, the best roof material, Ford or Chevy and the forum has been unbelievably helpful in these relevant Lake discussions. But even after reading the helpful responses, I still am not really able to “do the research and draw conclusions” simply because I don’t have the background to understand some of the discussion and I don’t really know the accuracy of the informants, MOST of whom do seem to be knowlegible.”

On the other hand, I do have the background to understand the issues concerning Covid and I can read the original literature and make decisions based on this. And the other part is there are a lot of things that are not clear and are still unknown. Even experts need to understand enough to make the best decisions. And there should always be open mindedness about points of view.

When we go to the doctor we , hopefully, are given a diagnosis and an honest discussion of what is best for us. And we do ultimately make our decisions based on the doctors advice and either a second opinion or other valid sources of information.

The problem, as I see it with Covid is that the idea that “I’ll do my research and make my own decision and no one can tell me what to do.” has been so politicized as to make it just not reasonable. What kind of medical research has the pro basketball player done to justify not getting vaccinated? Or the master mechanic? Or, on a different subject such as winterizing, does a jerk like me decide who doesn’t even know what a battery tickler is?

End of rant.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

A study conducted in the UK shows the opposite:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...vid-deaths-uk/

For those quick to “debunk” any information found in a conservative outlet, a link to the actual study can be found in the article.

Anddd here you go: https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...g-death-more-/

Do you even read the articles you post? As Newbie pointed out above, the (factual) study is grossly misinterpreted by The Daily Expose, a conspiracy-theorist website, is the source of the quote that The Gateway Pundit, also a conspiracy-theorist website, quotes as "evidence."

Here's a nice graphic that might help you.



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[John Mercier]

Websites aren't going to matter.
The economy is front and center... and federal support is largely gone.

Biden authorized a coordinated release of crude from the reserve... but as we see covid is what really brought the crude futures back down to Earth.

I know that the government contract mandate is really going to shake up the situation... but even that will shake out rather quickly in a month or two.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

For those quick to “debunk” any information found in a conservative outlet, a link to the actual study can be found in the article.

As John pointed out that conservative and Republican are not the same thing--we should also note that misinformation and conservative are not the same thing. You don't see people quickly dismissing articles from the Wall Street Journal or Forbes, just for example. But when there are repeated posts from laughable misinformation or disinformation sites, you should expect them to be called for what they are

[Newbiesaukee]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Latest statistics show 86% of NH has at least one dose and 64% are fully vaccinated.
Seems to me that if the vaccine was working that new cases would be declining and not rising.

Just because something is logical, doesn’t mean it’s true.

IMO, part of the answer is there is significant evidence that the vaccinated can pass on the virus even if they are asymptomatic. This, again IMO, is the reason that the value of the vaccine is to prevent death and hospitalization. And it most certainly does. But the vaccine has less effect on transmission.

This is not a reason to be unvaccinated. The risk of death and hospitalization is much greater in the unvaccinated.

And the other reality is we still don’t know everything about the virus. And the statistics are also dependent on the various rates and kind of testing and reporting available. Reality is rarely simple.

[SAMIAM]

A fair point.....but if those who are vaccinated can still carry, spread and contact covid 19.......why are we demonizing the unvaccinated. Looks like everyone is in the same boat

[John Mercier]

Because I was forced to stay home because I carried the virus to, and I quote, ''Protect those that are not vaccinated''. Why should I have to protect them from a choice they made?
I have seen my medical insurance premiums rise dramatically... it isn't because I was sitting in an ER or hospitalized.

[Newbiesaukee]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

A fair point.....but if those who are vaccinated can still carry, spread and contact covid 19.......why are we demonizing the unvaccinated. Looks like everyone is in the same boat

Except the chances of hospitalization and death are much greater in the unvaccinated. And aside from the obvious, the unvaccinated are a greater economic burden. Not everyone is in the same boat at all.

[John Mercier]

I think that is why we are slowly seeing the businesses transfer the medical premiums back onto their workers. It places more responsibility on the individual do what they can to remain symptom free.

The loss time for the various outlets will continue to show up in higher costs registered as inflation.

Interesting thing on the health care side, Medicare Part A is not in the best of shape... so more hospitalizations may have serious implications on retribution rates and what facilities will end their attachment to Medicare.

Medicaid directly impacts the State budget (that includes uncompensated care), so the outcome is a bit more collective on that front.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

A fair point.....but if those who are vaccinated can still carry,spread and contact covid 19.......why are we demonizing the unvaccinated.Looks like everyone is in the same boat

I don't think anyone has demonized the unvaccinated. That is not the same thing as being disappointed in their actions or even requiring them to be vaxxed to keep their jobs.

The chances of a vaccinated person contracting/spreading are far less than those of an unvaccinated person.

[SAMIAM]

Actually in favor of vaccinations.......just curious about the controversy

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Actually in favor of vaccinations.......just curious about the controversy

I agree, sadly, that the controversy itself is fascinating.

A very thoughtful cousin said to me a few weeks ago that the capacity for sophisticated thought separates humans from other species. But the irony is that our capacity for thought does not give us the capacity to change our behavior on these complex issues. In this case, we have the ability to protect the entire world, but we have not done so.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

In this case, we have the ability to protect the entire world, but we have not done so.

We just have to wait! Everyone is on their way here coming across the southern border.

[Lakegeezer]

What a difference a month makes. Latest numbers in Florida are 17,825/day or 83 per 100,000. That is a 1380% increase in cases per 100K in the past month and FL has surpassed MI and MN, pervious targets of ridicule. Once all is over, the analysis on the effectiveness of lockdowns, masks and vaccinations will be reported. The important metrics will be hospitalizations, deaths and long term health issues. Till then, lots of experimentation going on. Too early to "learn" from other's short-term results.

From: 11/27

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Florida is reporting the lowest amount of coronavirus cases per capita in the nation after Gov. Ron DeSantis was widely criticized by media outlets for his handling of the virus.

The Sunshine State reported a daily average of 1,393 coronavirus cases as of Friday, six per 100,000, which was a two percent decrease over the last two weeks.

At the same time Florida reported the lowest amount of new cases in the country per capita, coronavirus cases are surging in many states where strict lockdown orders were issued by Democratic governors.

Michigan, where Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer imposed some of the most controversial restrictions in the nation during the height of the pandemic, leads the nation in daily coronavirus cases per capita.

The hope is that the states like Michigan and Minnesota who are experiencing a surge in cases will "learn from Florida's experience" and promote treatments that work as opposed to lockdowns which "we've seen time and time again" do not.

[Newbiesaukee]

There is no question of an increase in cases and the vast majority of the hospitalization and deaths are in the unvaccinated. There are few valid reasons not to be vaccinated.

BUT, as I see it, most of the other daily statistics are confusing and misleading. Not necessarily intentionally. First, testing by self kits, testing in state, pharmacy facilities is way up. Even PCR self testing is available. What we never did well and don’t really do well now is community surveillance which would give real actionable numbers. A friend might say, cases increased by 25,000 yesterday in FL, which is where I am. But the number is essentially meaningless. Because reporting is irregular, you can’t really even accurately compare it to yesterday. And NH is no better.

Rant over except for one tiny political aside. “No one could have seen this coming” is total nonsense. And that from today’s White House. Actually, anyone who cared could have seen this coming. Granted that in todays climate it might have made no difference.

[ITD]

The not so subtle difference from this time last year is we are talking about cases and not deaths as a metric, that's a good thing.

[trfour]

"If you have a much larger number of individual cases, the fact that you have so many more cases might actually obviate the effect of it being less severe," Fauci said.


https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...days-rcna10094

[trfour]

Dr. Fauci Says This Is When the Omicron Wave Will Peak.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...c=U531#image=1

[TheProfessor]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Florida is reporting the lowest amount of coronavirus cases per capita in the nation after Gov. Ron DeSantis was widely criticized by media outlets for his handling of the virus.

Good Lord.

Florida has all under control ?

"Florida breaks its record with 76,887 new infections Friday; 1 out of 3 COVID-19 tests is positive"

LINK

If sick people did not get tested then the numbers would be lower in Florida.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by TheProfessor

If sick people did not get tested then the numbers would be lower in Florida.

This. If nobody tests, nobody has Covid. Florida wasn't testing at nearly the rates of the rest of the country, hence the ~1 million expired tests recently discovered.

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[TiltonBB]

I don't know what is true. I am hearing that people checking into hospitals for other issues, with no covid symptoms, get tested. If they are positive they are listed in the covid statistics. I think a lot of people all over the country have had covid and moved on, without ever being tested or feeling symptoms other than a mild cold.

I went to the Fort Myers Seafood festival this afternoon. There were easily 5,000 people there and I saw two with masks. Good? Bad? Who knows.
Florida’s seven-day average as of Friday was of 0.09 deaths a day per 100,000, or the state with the second-lowest rate in the country.

Some things we hear and read may be true but I also think the politicians are making political hay out of it. If the unvaccinated, unmasked people are such a problem why are our current leaders letting them in and giving them free flights to deposit them all over the country?

"The nation’s former border chief reported today that the Biden administration has placed some 40,000 illegal immigrants infected with the coronavirus into American cities."

So what do you believe?

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

I don't know what is true. I am hearing that people checking into hospitals for other issues, with no covid symptoms, get tested. If they are positive they are listed in the covid statistics. I think a lot of people all over the country have had covid and moved on, without ever being tested or feeling symptoms other than a mild cold.

I went to the Fort Myers Seafood festival this afternoon. There were easily 5,000 people there and I saw two with masks. Good? Bad? Who knows.

Some things we hear and read may be true but I also think the politicians are making political hay out of it. If the unvaccinated, unmasked people are such a problem why are our current leaders letting them in and giving them free flights to deposit them all over the country?

"The nation’s former border chief reported today that the Biden administration has placed some 40,000 illegal immigrants infected with the coronavirus into American cities."

So what do you believe?

It's easy to see politicians such as DeSantis making "political hay" out of Covid and immigration. I think he (they) deceived us a week ago with misleading numbers, and now they are trying to distract us with immigration.

It's much harder to see any Democrats trying score points on these issues--on Covid, they beg people to get vaxxed and wear masks, on immigration they say nothing. You might think these are bad policies (they sure aren't political winners!). But that is different than them working to deceive us as DeSantis did

[TheProfessor]

"Florida reported 76,887 new COVID-19 cases on Friday"

What part of the Florida Department of Health don't you understand ?

[John Mercier]

Immigration is only a distraction to those that didn't pay attention in primary school. Friedrich Engels is the chief instigator of those policies, with the Know Nothing Party embedded it in our American culture.

People and businesses that are vaccinated and lowering their public exposure should come through this very well positioned.

If they are using natural infection... larger hospitalization risk (that cost money), and like the vaccines the immunity wanes. So they would need to be reinfected every six months or so... which increases that cost risk.

It is really just establishing a better risk profile over time.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by TheProfessor

"Florida reported 76,887 new COVID-19 cases on Friday"

What part of the Florida Department of Health don't you understand ?

The numbers have increased with the seasonal population change. The influx of snowbirds would have caused the same issue in any other state.

Florida has approximately 21 million residents. That grows by 3 to 4 million people every winter. Those people come from various backgrounds and areas that may be inundated with covid.

The state's permanent population grows by about 1,000 people per day, unlike the northern states that have people fleeing. Obviously, that will change the covid statistics as well.

With this change in numbers and the mobility of people it is no surprise that the covid numbers have begun to rise.

[John Mercier]

The last I knew they based the numbers on where your declare your residence.

The increase could be a surge from non-residents carrying it into areas, but the actual numbers would be declared residents.

They don't have it under control, because no one has it under control.

The issue is simply hospitalizations and lost time to labor.

Hospitalizations have additional costs to the system... seldom paid by the individual out-of-pocket; and lost time to labor is because it transmits so fast that by the time they get the first employee tested, several others have it. By the time they get us all isolated, the shift... or worse... is no longer viable.

We are not going to be able to control it without changes in our everyday system.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

The last I knew they based the numbers on where your declare your residence.

The increase could be a surge from non-residents carrying it into areas, but the actual numbers would be declared residents.

Non-resident data on COVID-19 cases, tests, and vaccines are not regulated in any way.

The absence of governance leads to states presenting data in any format or disregarding it altogether despite the capacity of this data to have major impacts on trends and rates, especially during periods of frequent travel.

To me, it wouldn't make any sense if, say, a snowbird from Ohio who went to Florida for the winter in November died from Covid in a Miami hospital in February was listed as an Ohio death. I believe the statistics are kept and reported by your actual location at the time of the incident.

[fatlazyless]

So, I got turned away and sent out the door yesterday morning, Saturday, January 8, when I tried to get myself my fourth vaccination shot of Pfizer with a scheduled appointment time at the NH-state run, vaccination blitz held in Ashland NH in the former state liquor store at Exit 24. The parking lot out front, was so full of cars I had to park across the road at the lumber yard. Inside, it was very full of people looking to get vaccinated.

Between walking in the former state liquor building, presenting my drivers license, vaccination card, scheduled time, start filling out form and getting told to leave, it involved myself with two attending people and about maybe four minutes time, all told, while a brief consult with some higher authority person was made? Oh well .... Live Free or Die-NH ..... think I will stay away from indoor pickleball for a while until I can get a fourth vaccination shot ..... somewhere ..... and use the better quality, tighter fitting, treated material N-95 medical mask for shopping at Walmart and Market Basket and www.heathsmarket.com

My vaccination card shows September 12, 2021 for my third shot, four months ago, and I have read how the vaccination loses some of its' effectiveness after about four months.

So, what's my plan? On Saturday, January 15, between 9 - noon, there will be a vaccination clinic at the Meredith Community Center held by Altrusa International of Meredith.

Another place for me to go is back to the CVS in Plymouth, where I got my first three shots. This Plymouth CVS was like totally TOTALLY excellent, all three times, probably because it was totally empty of people getting vaccinated, except for me, all three times. ....

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/u...d-vaccine.html ...... "When Three Shots Are Not Enough"

If at first you don't succeed ...... then quit ..... .... no way! ....... I will try, try, try it again, somewhere else! .... ..... And, as you probably know, your CDC heavy paper vaccination record card has four spaces for recording the date and batch #, so mine has a fourth vacant space or line, now awaiting my fourth vaccination information.

http://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/wo...-and-over.html ...... over age-60

[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Non-resident data on COVID-19 cases, tests, and vaccines are not regulated in any way.

The absence of governance leads to states presenting data in any format or disregarding it altogether despite the capacity of this data to have major impacts on trends and rates, especially during periods of frequent travel.

To me, it wouldn't make any sense if, say, a snowbird from Ohio who went to Florida for the winter in November died from Covid in a Miami hospital in February was listed as an Ohio death. I believe the statistics are kept and reported by your actual location at the time of the incident.

No. Florida had a huge case were one of the people keeping their database was very upset that those that tested positive in Florida were not being counted unless they were declared residents of Florida. I don't believe that has been changed.

Florida would choose to list that as an Ohio covid case, and an Ohio covid death.

That type of stuff has been in the news since covid reporting has begun.

NH has issues on its reporting, but has been very open on those issues... something that can not be said of Florida.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

The numbers have increased with the seasonal population change. The influx of snowbirds would have caused the same issue in any other state.

Florida has approximately 21 million residents. That grows by 3 to 4 million people every winter. Those people come from various backgrounds and areas that may be inundated with covid.

The state's permanent population grows by about 1,000 people per day, unlike the northern states that have people fleeing. Obviously, that will change the covid statistics as well.

With this change in numbers and the mobility of people it is no surprise that the covid numbers have begun to rise.

Begun to rise? They've skyrocketed!

1,000 new Florida residents/day is a big number. But it's nothing compared to the average daily covid cases--now at 58,000 for Florida. Even if every newcomer has covid, you're still at 57,000. So I'm going to have to disagree on the newcomers changing the stats.

Also, when you say wintertime is tough for covid in Florida, you remind me that a few months ago the governor said summertime was tough because "it's our indoor season".

As I noted above, Rick DeSantis is working hard every day...to deceive us

[John Mercier]

I think what TiltonBB meant was due to the number of non-residents coming in from other States during the winter Florida would see a surge of infected individuals carrying the virus to the residents of the State.

We all know that travel from one area to another area is how the infection is spreading. So the presumption that infection is being carried from other States into Florida and then spreading within their resident population is extremely likely.

DeSantis has the ability to slow (though I don't think stop) that. He just doesn't think he should.

[fatlazyless]

So's, anyone here in New Hampshire get a fourth shot of the Pfizer yet, and where the H... do I go? ...

https://www.cnet.com/health/covid-19...-vaccine-dose/ ... January 3, 2022

[John Mercier]

I don't think you can.
I have the third booster, but that was more to keep up-to-date for employment offers coming in that require the third to be considered completely vaccinated.

[trfour]

Virus Expert Warned We're in a "Really Bad Surge",


https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...c=U531#image=2

[fatlazyless]

"Starting later this week, some at-risk Americans become eligible for a 4th Shot".

Over at the NH state liquor store in Plymouth which replaced the now closed store in Ashland, you get 10% off the purchase of 3 or more bottles of NH products right now, mixed or matched, any size.

So, I try to get a 4th shot of the Pfizer and I get shown the door, but this ..... https://nytimes.com/2022/01/09/healt...e-booster.html .... January 9, 2022 ...... suggests getting a fourth vaccination shot could become as available as Live Free Distillery Mountain Top Vodka, sold at your NH State Liquor Store for $25.99/1.75L less an extra 10% with purchase of 3 or more bottles! ..... ..... and jab me with my 4th shot! .....

[trfour]

Dr. Fauci Just Issued This Omicron Update.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...c=U531#image=1

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

So's, anyone here in New Hampshire get a fourth shot of the Pfizer yet, and where the H... do I go? ...

https://www.cnet.com/health/covid-19...-vaccine-dose/ ... January 3, 2022

Hey FLL: Still looking for additional jabs of the Fauci Ouchie? Have you given any thought to moving to India?

A pensioner illegally booked himself in for 12 Covid jabs in less than a year before he was caught by cops in India.

Brahamdev Mandal, 84, had all the vaccines in just 11 months and even managed to book two less than 30 minutes apart on the same day.

The serial-vaxxer was only able to sign up for extra jabs by lying to health officials and using the ID of other people who also needed the lifesaving serum.

He said he wanted to feel stronger during the pandemic and rid himself of the joint pain he has suffered for eight years.

The former postman has been accused of a string of offences by police in the village of Orai, in Bihar, India where he lives.

[TiltonBB]

Ocugen has a vaccine that is already approved in some other countries and is pending approval in the United States and Canada. It looks promising against new variants.

The clinical-stage biotech firm has been co-developing a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine with India's Bharat Biotech, and the latest round of data shows their BBV152 booster neutralizes both the Omicron and Delta variants of the virus that causes COVID-19.

The treatment generated a robust neutralizing antibody response against both strains using a live virus neutralization assay. Test serum results showed the Delta variant was neutralized 100% of the time while Omicron neutralized at a rate of 90%.

[fatlazyless]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Hey FLL: Still looking for additional jabs of the Fauci Ouchie? Have you given any thought to moving to India?

Traveling to India is a totally super-duper suggestion but I just think I'll self-isolate and spend the rest of January working on the installation of this $13 snowblower replacement carburetor and primer push bulb onto my TroyBilt 2410 snowblower. If I can get it done correct between now and February, this will be a major accomplishment for me! ....

Plus, the weather needs to warm up to 25-degrees so's I can work on it, outdoors. Right now it's done warmed up to ten but it needs to get warmer for working on a snowblower like this.
...............

... symptoms of omicron? ...... http://www.wmur.com/article/covid-om...pital/38743393

[trfour]

Dr. Fauci says ‘just about everybody’ will get COVID-19.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...edgdhp&pc=U531

[trfour]

Surgeon General Just Issued This "Difficult" Warning.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...n=true#image=1

[trfour]

"So even though it's possible to start imagining that the end of the pandemic is not far away, just everybody be ready for the possibility that there will be more variations and mutations coming along, or that there will be further challenges, other surges of even Omicron coming."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...edgdhp&pc=U531