Re multiple breakthrough infections possible?

[Woodsy]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

FEE is not a news or science or public health organization. They are a political group.

When you say "I am thinking ..." and then back it up with only anecdotes from a political group, I am back to what I said several posts ago--it is really a bummer when people use covid for politics or inject politics into vaccines.

Ya ok! I used that site because the observations they made mirror what we are really seeing... a so called break through rate of 30%. 30% is not a break through rate... 5% would be a decent break through rate.

Then we can dive into the CDC not actually tracking break through data for non hospitalization results. If you want to dive deeper lets get the actual reports from the NBC data... what States, what was the sampling rate etc. etc. etc.

P-Town & MLB are fairly accurate mirrors of what is really happening. Especially with the MLB Covid protocols..

Woodsy

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Ya ok! I used that site because the observations they made mirror what we are really seeing... a so called break through rate of 30%. 30% is not a break through rate... 5% would be a decent break through rate.

Then we can dive into the CDC not actually tracking break through data for non hospitalization results. If you want to dive deeper lets get the actual reports from the NBC data... what States, what was the sampling rate etc. etc. etc.

P-Town & MLB are fairly accurate mirrors of what is really happening. Especially with the MLB Covid protocols..

Woodsy

When you say P-town and MLB "mirror what we are really seeing", I am confused.

From work, family, and friends I have "anecdotal" (as you put it) data on over a hundred, maybe a couple of hundred of people who have been vaxxed. I have heard of only 1 breakthrough case in that group. So my experience mirrors the data from CDC and others.

I would guess that you also know over 100 people who have been vaxxed in your family and friends group. Are you saying that you are "seeing" 30 or more vaxxed family and friends with covid--"real" people that you know personally, not the Red Sox--with breakthrough infections? Or maybe 1 or 2 or none? Or maybe 5 or 10?

[SailinAway]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

I used that site because the observations they made mirror what we are really seeing... a so called break through rate of 30%.

So you personally are seeing infections in 30% of the people you know who have been vaccinated? That's odd. Everyone in my personal and work circle (excluding those tradesmen I've referred to elsewhere, who aren't in my circle) is vaccinated. Only one of them has gotten Covid.

[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by SailinAway

So you personally are seeing infections in 30% of the people you know who have been vaccinated? That's odd. Everyone in my personal and work circle (excluding those tradesmen I've referred to elsewhere, who aren't in my circle) is vaccinated. Only one of them has gotten Covid.

Remember the question you asked about repeated contact with an infected person(s)?

While the CDC is showing a shallow breakthrough rate for the millions that have been vaccinated... it is likely that they also do not spend a lot of time in high risk situations. Meaning they have only a small amount of contact with possibly infected individuals.

Because of the various individual immunity levels, given enough time and opportunity, the virus will find new hosts.

[SailinAway]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

Remember the question you asked about repeated contact with an infected person(s)?

While the CDC is showing a shallow breakthrough rate for the millions that have been vaccinated... it is likely that they also do not spend a lot of time in high risk situations. Meaning they have only a small amount of contact with possibly infected individuals.

Because of the various individual immunity levels, given enough time and opportunity, the virus will find new hosts.

You make a good point. Getting vaccinated is associated with minimizing risks. The people in my circle---friends and the people I work with---tend to share a similar political and social outlook, and hence similar attitudes about vaccinations, masks, and social distancing. We are all vaccinated and took the necessary precautions from the beginning. That explains why I only know one person who had a breakthrough infection, but it doesn't explain Woodsy's observation that he is seeing a 30% breakthrough rate. Still waiting to hear his explanation of that.