Home Owners Associations (HOA's)

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by LakeDad

This is happening in Gilmanton right now.
New, entitled people coming in who want a lottery vs wait and obtain for life.

I vacationed here for many years but just moved here full time.
I valet my boat. Maybe I'll find a dock. Maybe I'll have to buy property on the lake to get one. Either way, I'm not going to disrupt the current (fair) process.

Who would buy a boat for a slip you might lose after a couple of years?
Entitled noobs...

Wait like everyone else did.

I agree about "entitled noobs"...or maybe it's naive noobs?

Curious on your voting decision--how long have you been waiting, when do you expect to get dock space under the current system, how old are you? (hope that is not too personal)

[LakeDad]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

I agree about "entitled noobs"...or maybe it's naive noobs?

Curious on your voting decision--how long have you been waiting, when do you expect to get dock space under the current system, how old are you? (hope that is not too personal)

I'd be happy to answer these questions, but none of them are relevant.
How long I expect to wait means nothing. My age means nothing.
That is emotional trivia.

This is simple supply and demand.
Supply is limited. Once you obtain a space, it is yours for life or until:
1. You sell or refuse to pay the annual fee
2. You decide to give it up
3. You repeatedly break the rules of usage

I could see room for a #4 Grandstanding on a grandfathered in space, but never using it.(Only within an association. Private ownership is ownership, used or not)

Other than that, what makes a newcomer (including me) think they can bump someone who has been here for years and has invested in a boat and lifestyle surrounding the space they waited years for?

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by LakeDad

I'd be happy to answer these questions, but none of them are relevant.
How long I expect to wait means nothing. My age means nothing.
That is emotional trivia.

This is simple supply and demand.
Supply is limited. Once you obtain a space, it is yours for life or until:
1. You sell or refuse to pay the annual fee
2. You decide to give it up
3. You repeatedly break the rules of usage

I could see room for a #4 Grandstanding on a grandfathered in space, but never using it.(Only within an association. Private ownership is ownership, used or not)

Other than that, what makes a newcomer (including me) think they can bump someone who has been here for years and has invested in a boat and lifestyle surrounding the space they waited years for?

I think there's a distinct difference between a lifetime for an owner and a lifetime for a family. I'd have a huge issue with the son/daughter of someone getting a hand-me-down slip over an original owner who's waited 20 years.

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[LakeDad]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

I think there's a distinct difference between a lifetime for an owner and a lifetime for a family. I'd have a huge issue with the son/daughter of someone getting a hand-me-down slip over an original owner who's waited 20 years.

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That I will absolutely agree with. A *person* is on a waiting list, not an extended family.
When a person is done, the next person on the waiting list is in.

If dad has a dock and you want one someday, best to get on that list as soon as you can!

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by LakeDad

That I will absolutely agree with. A *person* is on a waiting list, not an extended family.
When a person is done, the next person on the waiting list is in.

If dad has a dock and you want one someday, best to get on that list as soon as you can!

Soooo...would someone be an "entitled noob" if they thought that policy was unreasonable and wanted it changed?

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[LakeDad]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Soooo...would someone be an "entitled noob" if they thought that policy was unreasonable and wanted it changed?

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You’re making a false argument based on a position I did not hold. You actually used two logical fallacies in one response:
1. Hasty generalization
2. Straw man argument (posed as a question)

The policy is reasonable. It is unreasonable to think that you should get in front of people who have invested (and are fully vested) in a place.

I’m not biting


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