Capt. Jack Asses on Paugus Today

John Mercier · 08-15-2021, 10:23 AM

Are you sure they didn't do it to make a ''statement''?
It seems that everything that we are helping build on the lake now is about making a ''statement''. It is their money, so I try and comply... but when they ask what I think... I am honest.

It may be that the boater realizes that the woodies are owned by people that are higher up the pecking order.

winniwannabe · 08-15-2021, 10:54 AM

Well said. They have no comprehension of boating laws and protocol. Time to
call a spade a spade and get MP involved instead of like down here in MA where State Police are invisible when they are needed most.

Woody38 · 08-15-2021, 11:00 AM

I don't really believe that people who own woodies think of themselves as higher on the pecking order. They are interested in enjoying something they love.
Like when many years ago someone said I must be rich since I drive a Mercedes. My reply was that I don't smoke and don't drink, therefore I drive what I enjoy.
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LikeLakes · 08-15-2021, 12:09 PM

Going back to the original post, maneuvering a pontoon in some wind to anchor between a few boats takes some skill and experience. The shame of situations like Bumpye described is someone who is new at it can practice somewhere wide open, and not get "on-the-spot" experience at a crowded sandbar with other people's health and possessions in harm's way. Finally, I always offer to help when someone is anchoring next to me, and I'm guessing most others do as well. Lots of help and a slow cautious approach can make situations like that turn out fine.

Frustrating and dangerous. That's why I generally avoid Winni on weekends.

John Mercier · 08-15-2021, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Woody38

I don't really believe that people who own woodies think of themselves as higher on the pecking order. They are interested in enjoying something they love.
Like when many years ago someone said I must be rich since I drive a Mercedes. My reply was that I don't smoke and don't drink, therefore I drive what I enjoy.
_________________________________

I am a retired workaholic and continuing aquaholic

It isn't what they think they are... it is what others think they are.
Wooden boats imply antiquity... more of a connoisseur than a commodity item. Less to do with wealth and more to do with passion.

We don't see people with Mercedes as rich... we see them as tourists. The reason is simple... anyone that can afford a Mercedes can purchase one - unless it was an antique - but since no Mercedes dealerships exist in the area - most newer models are driven by residents south of us coming to the area.
An antique Mercedes would show that passion.

SAB1 · 08-15-2021, 09:12 PM

I agree with Vita. Same could be said for trailering ……. Absolutely astounding seeing some of the baffoons dragging a 22ft behind an Audi or Subaru and then the issue of trying to back a boat down a ramp…..

Biggd · 08-15-2021, 09:30 PM

Just one more reason to avoid crowded urine filled sand bars.

John Mercier · 08-15-2021, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SAB1

I agree with Vita. Same could be said for trailering ……. Absolutely astounding seeing some of the baffoons dragging a 22ft behind an Audi or Subaru and then the issue of trying to back a boat down a ramp…..

It may be that they have just gotten into it like so many others and have yet to decide if it is right for them.

Shreddy · 08-17-2021, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by John Mercier

Are you sure they didn't do it to make a ''statement''?
It seems that everything that we are helping build on the lake now is about making a ''statement''. It is their money, so I try and comply... but when they ask what I think... I am honest.

It may be that the boater realizes that the woodies are owned by people that are higher up the pecking order.

Are you serious? I'm in my 30s and just restored a gorgeous 1948 Chris Craft Deluxe. I put months of blood, sweat, and tears into that boat and it's finally almost ready and yet you think I'm higher up the pecking order? I've seen your posts, you bring very limited value to this forum.

salty dog · 08-17-2021, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Shreddy

Are you serious? I'm in my 30s and just restored a gorgeous 1948 Chris Craft Deluxe. I put months of blood, sweat, and tears into that boat and it's finally almost ready and yet you think I'm higher up the pecking order? I've seen your posts, you bring very limited value to this forum.

Incredible amount of work on that type of restoration. I grew up sailing and working on my dad's 1905 gaff-rigged yawl. My God, the brightwork. Holy crap! But it was a thing of beauty. What will you call her? I definitely hope I see it on the lake...

Shreddy · 08-17-2021, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by salty dog

Incredible amount of work on that type of restoration. I grew up sailing and working on my dad's 1905 gaff-rigged yawl. My God, the brightwork. Holy crap! But it was a thing of beauty. What will you call her? I definitely hope I see it on the lake...

Name after my grandmother

This was before getting put on the trailer and off to get her power plant back in. The level of finish work that goes in from sanding and fairing, to taping, staining, sealing, varnishing, sanding, varnishing, etc. is amazing. Over 20 coats of varnish, just waiting for the engine to be mounted and the upholstery (original) to arrive before putting it all back together! Very excited to get it on the water soon, although maybe I should just keep it in my garage since I don't want people to think I'm higher up the pecking order now that I own one.

FlyingScot · 08-17-2021, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Shreddy

Name after my grandmother

This was before getting put on the trailer and off to get her power plant back in. The level of finish work that goes in from sanding and fairing, to taping, staining, sealing, varnishing, sanding, varnishing, etc. is amazing. Over 20 coats of varnish, just waiting for the engine to be mounted and the upholstery (original) to arrive before putting it all back together! Very excited to get it on the water soon, although maybe I should just keep it in my garage since I don't want people to think I'm higher up the pecking order now that I own one.

GORGEOUS! Please send more pics

Full disclosure: I'm not worthy! I thought about buying a sailboat with a fiberglass hull but lots of other woodwork. The price wasn't so bad, but when the seller described the annual maintenance (just maintenance, no restoration), I fell off my chair and went all fiberglass. So my hat is off!

John Mercier · 08-17-2021, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Shreddy

Are you serious? I'm in my 30s and just restored a gorgeous 1948 Chris Craft Deluxe. I put months of blood, sweat, and tears into that boat and it's finally almost ready and yet you think I'm higher up the pecking order? I've seen your posts, you bring very limited value to this forum.

Yes. Wood boat enthusiasts are higher up the pecking order because of the time they donate to passion.
Anyone can purchase a boat, but a wooden boat requires a real commitment.
So wooden boat owners are higher up the pecking order.

It has nothing to do with age or money... it has to do with passion.

Shreddy · 08-17-2021, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by John Mercier

Yes. Wood boat enthusiasts are higher up the pecking order because of the time they donate to passion.
Anyone can purchase a boat, but a wooden boat requires a real commitment.
So wooden boat owners are higher up the pecking order.

It has nothing to do with age or money... it has to do with passion.

I have a passion for wooden boats, that doesn't make me any better or worse than anyone else (nor higher up whatever pecking order you're referring to). Please stop always try to compare people to wealth or some hierarchy of entitled, you're making yourself look worse every time. Life's much better enjoyed rather than comparing who's better than who.

John Mercier · 08-17-2021, 12:16 PM

Not better or worse.
Higher up a pecking order.

This isn't wealth.

For instance, a fiberglass door cost more than a wood door... but those choosing a wood door understand (hopefully) the higher level of commitment that you must have. The wood door will require refinishing and a higher level of maintenance over time.

The time one spends toward an endeavor and the skill/knowledge acquired in what separates the groups.

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08-15-2021, 10:23 AM	#1
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,991 Thanks: 3 Thanked 680 Times in 562 Posts	Are you sure they didn't do it to make a ''statement''? It seems that everything that we are helping build on the lake now is about making a ''statement''. It is their money, so I try and comply... but when they ask what I think... I am honest. It may be that the boater realizes that the woodies are owned by people that are higher up the pecking order.

08-15-2021, 10:54 AM	#2
winniwannabe Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: MA Posts: 139 Thanks: 111 Thanked 45 Times in 31 Posts	Well said. They have no comprehension of boating laws and protocol. Time to call a spade a spade and get MP involved instead of like down here in MA where State Police are invisible when they are needed most.

08-15-2021, 11:00 AM	#3
Woody38 Senior Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 584 Thanks: 45 Thanked 110 Times in 81 Posts	I don't really believe that people who own woodies think of themselves as higher on the pecking order. They are interested in enjoying something they love. Like when many years ago someone said I must be rich since I drive a Mercedes. My reply was that I don't smoke and don't drink, therefore I drive what I enjoy. _________________________________ I am a retired workaholic and continuing aquaholic

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LikeLakes Senior Member Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 339 Thanks: 50 Thanked 92 Times in 66 Posts	Going back to the original post, maneuvering a pontoon in some wind to anchor between a few boats takes some skill and experience. The shame of situations like Bumpye described is someone who is new at it can practice somewhere wide open, and not get "on-the-spot" experience at a crowded sandbar with other people's health and possessions in harm's way. Finally, I always offer to help when someone is anchoring next to me, and I'm guessing most others do as well. Lots of help and a slow cautious approach can make situations like that turn out fine. Frustrating and dangerous. That's why I generally avoid Winni on weekends.

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SAB1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tuftonboro Posts: 1,275 Thanks: 196 Thanked 336 Times in 244 Posts	I agree with Vita. Same could be said for trailering ……. Absolutely astounding seeing some of the baffoons dragging a 22ft behind an Audi or Subaru and then the issue of trying to back a boat down a ramp…..

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John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,991 Thanks: 3 Thanked 680 Times in 562 Posts	Not better or worse. Higher up a pecking order. This isn't wealth. For instance, a fiberglass door cost more than a wood door... but those choosing a wood door understand (hopefully) the higher level of commitment that you must have. The wood door will require refinishing and a higher level of maintenance over time. The time one spends toward an endeavor and the skill/knowledge acquired in what separates the groups.