Interacting with unvaccinated people when you must

[Jdarby]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

40,000-50,000 Americans die from the flu each year... we have a vaccine... and still the death toll. The historic record is that we will never vaccinate our way out of this one. We'll see a decline in deaths and hospitalizations, but those that didn't get the ''message'' never will. And those that have, will get every booster - annual or otherwise.

The challenge with discussing “flu” deaths and vaccination is that there is no single “flu” vaccine. There are 4 types of influenza viruses (A,B,C,&D) Influenza D only effects animals. A,B, & C effect people with A having the highest chance for severe illness. Each virus type has many strains. Every year the influenza vaccine is re-engineered to target the most likely Influenza A virus strains for the upcoming year. It doesn’t even cover all of the a Influenza A strains. The strains chosen are based upon the prevalence of those strains (variants) in the population. So, even people who get the flu vaccine can contract a strain of Influenza A that the vaccine does not protect against. They can also contract B&C. Unfortunately, COVID with its developing variants may become the same battle. The more we can stop the spread of COVID through vaccination and other means, the less variants we are likely to see.


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[SailinAway]

Update: After I developed possible covid symptoms my doctor had me tested yesterday based on my exposure to unvaccinated workers on my property. I was lucky and tested negative. So I say again, please be cautious about your exposure to people you must have contact with even if you're vaccinated, especially if you're over 65 or have other health risks.

[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by Jdarby

The challenge with discussing “flu” deaths and vaccination is that there is no single “flu” vaccine. There are 4 types of influenza viruses (A,B,C,&D) Influenza D only effects animals. A,B, & C effect people with A having the highest chance for severe illness. Each virus type has many strains. Every year the influenza vaccine is re-engineered to target the most likely Influenza A virus strains for the upcoming year. It doesn’t even cover all of the a Influenza A strains. The strains chosen are based upon the prevalence of those strains (variants) in the population. So, even people who get the flu vaccine can contract a strain of Influenza A that the vaccine does not protect against. They can also contract B&C. Unfortunately, COVID with its developing variants may become the same battle. The more we can stop the spread of COVID through vaccination and other means, the less variants we are likely to see.


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Since the vaccinated can carry and spread the virus... it would only be a matter of time before a variant breaks the immunity. The question at that time, how contagious and pathogenic the variant is.

And though SARS-Cov only has two identified strains that attack humans, instead of the four for Influenza, just like Influenza A... SARS-Cov2 is the one that has gone pandemic (SARS-Cov1 being too pathogenic to really take a foothold). SARS-Cov2 now has several strains like Influenza A, and thus I suspect will in the end need a newly engineered vaccine each season.

[Newbiesaukee]

Not to beat a wounded horse, but the subject is important:

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti...9vaccine/93940

[ApS]

Paywall. (Guess I'd been reading here earlier).

Yeah, it's free, but I don't wish to register at still another site.

Got a "Cliff Notes" version?

BTW: Will the CDC allow its employees to skip the vaccine?

[Newbiesaukee]

Originally Posted by ApS

Paywall. (Guess I'd been reading here earlier).

Yeah, it's free, but I don't wish to register at still another site.

Got a "Cliff Notes" version?

BTW: Will the CDC allow its employees to skip the vaccine?

If it’s my link I apologize about paywall. Basically, more evidence that people who had Covid will essentially double their immunity if they get vaccinated.

[John Mercier]

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/workf...ng-biden-says/


CDC are federal employees.
So they fall under this guideline.

[cessnaair]

All you free thinkers, how the unwashed who don’t get the jab. How come not one of you are upset that Biden has not closed the border, allowing the last figure I saw 150 to 200 thousand illegals crossing the border every month, giving them transportation in military aircraft and private buses to cities in the heartland. Why worry, apparently he’s not, Covid can’t be that big a deal.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by cessnaair

All you free thinkers, how the unwashed who don’t get the jab. How come not one of you are upset that Biden has not closed the border, allowing the last figure I saw 150 to 200 thousand illegals crossing the border every month, giving them transportation in military aircraft and private buses to cities in the heartland. Why worry, apparently he’s not, Covid can’t be that big a deal.

I'd give you a "thanks", but this information has already appeared here. Mentions of politics also causes threads to be locked, as "strict" politics is not desired here.

TO ALL, I'd suggest talking around sensitive subjects.

For example, I made a reference to the hypocrisy of a certain birthday party—without mentioning names. When the discussion continued and named the party, the thread got locked. I believe this is in accord with the Webmaster's philosophy. (Who runs the show).

One case is "making the rounds", but doesn't appear in the New York Times. We'll have to settle for lesser sites (some cancelled by Bing), but where enough fragments appear below to figure out what the fuss is all about:

[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by cessnaair

All you free thinkers, how the unwashed who don’t get the jab. How come not one of you are upset that Biden has not closed the border, allowing the last figure I saw 150 to 200 thousand illegals crossing the border every month, giving them transportation in military aircraft and private buses to cities in the heartland. Why worry, apparently he’s not, Covid can’t be that big a deal.

I'm not a proponent of Engels; but as long as you are willing to suffer the results of your actions... do as you please.

[Biggd]

I thought all this fake Covid virus was propagated by the Democrats and main street media to get Trump out of office. It was just an ordinary flue that would be gone once the democrats took office.