Vaccinations

[trfour]

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-ne...ation-rcna1393

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by trfour

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-ne...ation-rcna1393

Tik Tok is not worse than any other news outlet or App, including NBC. They are all here to push their agendas and increase use and viewership all for advertising dollars. I do not trust any of them

[John Mercier]

Isn't TikTok a social network, and not a news outlet?
Though this has been a bit ''loose'' in the modern times, I believe that social networks are not responsible for content like a news outlet is.

[trfour]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...?ocid=msedgntp

[FlyingScot]

So you've got millions of dollars riding on your ability to perform at absolutely peak levels mentally and physically every day, your job includes traveling all over the country and coming into contact with all sorts of people, and you're still not vaxxed? Unbelievable (or maybe not...)

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/07/...tive-covid-19/

[trfour]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...-lost-n1274119

[trfour]

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...-lung-n1274102

[trfour]

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...nated-n1274161

[Mr. V]

It's time for a national mandate that ALL Americans get vaccinated.

"Live free and Die" should no longer be an option.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Mr. V

It's time for a national mandate that ALL Americans get vaccinated.
"Live free and Die" should no longer be an option.

The "vaccinated" can still infect others.

Today's "break-throughs" are milder in effects.

The "Delta" variant, though highly transmissible, is killing many fewer people.

Newly vaccinated people are reportedly dying of vaccinations' after-effects.

European researchers report the presence of graphene oxide in vaccinations, and have alerted their peers in the western hemisphere.

Pushing vaccinations on the least-affected age groups may ultimately prove harmful to them.

Six Yankees test positive, while one million of the world's "impoverished" will cross our borders this year. I may have used up my "Stupid" allotment.

Those unvaccinated--who contracted the Wuhan Flu--have the best immunity going.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by ApS

The "vaccinated" can still infect others.

Today's "break-throughs" are milder in effects.

The "Delta" variant, though highly transmissible, is killing many fewer people.

Newly vaccinated people are reportedly dying of vaccinations' after-effects.

European researchers report the presence of graphene oxide in vaccinations, and have alerted their peers in the western hemisphere.

Pushing vaccinations on the least-affected age groups may ultimately prove harmful to them.

Those unvaccinated--who contracted the Wuhan Flu--have the best immunity going.

Why don't you ever post your "sources"? At this point, you're a tinfoil-hat-wearing-conspiracy-theorist who either can't research or purposefully manipulates information to support your narrative.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2OZ14F

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2P21DB

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

you're a tinfoil-hat-wearing-conspiracy-theorist who either can't research or purposefully manipulates information to support your narrative.

HAHA, you are just figuring this out!!

[BrownstoneNorth]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Why don't you ever post your "sources"? At this point, you're a tinfoil-hat-wearing-conspiracy-theorist who either can't research or purposefully manipulates information to support your narrative.

Originally Posted by VitaBene

HAHA, you are just figuring this out!!

Must have been the third shot that fried his brain.

ApS:

July 22, 2021: “I got the Moderna back in January and Feb.”

https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...140#post359140


June 25, 2021: “As to the inoculation, I had the Johnson & Johnson one-shot maybe a month ago: no difference in my daily life.”

https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...629#post357629

[ApS]

There was no "third shot". That reference was a joke-thread of member TiltonBB—"To lighten the moment".

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

It's really bizarre, pitiful, and dangerous that you keep doing this. Everyone who has any understanding of health or statistics, and is not paranoid, understands that the vaccine will make them and their families much safer.

Those points will stand up to scrutiny outside of what Americans see on TV.

Name one that's "bizarre, pitiful, and dangerous", and we'll examine it for the forum.

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Why don't you ever post your "sources"? At this point, you're a tinfoil-hat-wearing-conspiracy-theorist who either can't research or purposefully manipulates information to support your narrative.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2OZ14F

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2P21DB

Hardly tinfoil: Most of my written sources originate in Britain. (One, via Skype, originated from a Spanish University professor to a Spanish-speaking Medical Doctor).

So, who to believe? Government's Facebook beliefs or a University professor's beliefs?

(Britain is about two weeks ahead of the US in Covid variants).

Remember this "sage advice"?

"Unfortunately, science today is too influenced by politics. The ideal of a scientist is an objective, ‘disinterested’ observer. If one holds strong emotional positions on a topic, then it is all too easy to have conclusions, and even observations, colored by those viewpoints".

Are you not concerned that your own Reuters fact-check mentions that Reuters' findings placed at Facebook were "flagged for removal"?

Or that findings deemed "misinformation" are flagged from a government to a private business, (Facebook), for deletion?

Thinkx can give the above a fearful name...

[John Mercier]

Facebook is not a ''news'' site.
Many of the other things you are reading are not either.

They are covered under certain laws from being sued for information posted on their sites.

Since the vaccines where never claimed to be 100% effective, even against the original strain, everyone expected ''breakthroughs''.

We have five sales people test positive for the virus and needed quarantine. No one died, no one even really needed to be hospitalized (though one didn't look so good). But you know what we did learn from that round... it is really hard to do any business when a salesperson is out.

There were quotes and orders on individual computers that at first, they suspected that I could not get to. All my time instead of serving new customers was spent trying to work through their systems.

It isn't something that we will be going through again.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

We have five sales people test positive for the virus and needed quarantine. No one died, no one even really needed to be hospitalized (though one didn't look so good). But you know what we did learn from that round... it is really hard to do any business when a salesperson is out.

Fortunately, we have 100% vaccinated at my company. We are hiring a significant number of new people this fall, and are going to require all to be vaxxed. It's a two-fold decision for us. First, we feel a responsibility to have a safe work environment. Second, it would be extraordinarily expensive if we had a breakout.

[ApS]

My second point—also disputed:

"Today's 'break-throughs' are milder in effects".

Answer:

Post-vaccination infections, or breakthroughs, might occasionally turn symptomatic, but they aren’t shameful or aberrant. They also aren’t proof that the shots are failing. These cases are, on average, gentler and less symptomatic; faster-resolving, with less virus lingering—and, it appears, less likely to pass the pathogen on.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...t-to-know.html

[trfour]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...nated-n1275210

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by trfour

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...nated-n1275210

EXACTLY how I feel.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by ApS

There was no "third shot". That reference was a joke-thread of member TiltonBB—"To lighten the moment".

Those points will stand up to scrutiny outside of what Americans see on TV.

Name one that's "bizarre, pitiful, and dangerous", and we'll examine it for the forum.

Hardly tinfoil: Most of my written sources originate in Britain. (One, via Skype, originated from a Spanish University professor to a Spanish-speaking Medical Doctor).

So, who to believe? Government's Facebook beliefs or a University professor's beliefs?

(Britain is about two weeks ahead of the US in Covid variants).

Remember this "sage advice"?

Are you not concerned that your own Reuters fact-check mentions that Reuters' findings placed at Facebook were "flagged for removal"?

Or that findings deemed "misinformation" are flagged from a government to a private business, (Facebook), for deletion?

Thinkx can give the above a fearful name...

What you refer to are posts that are flagged for misinformation and/or lack of context. The specific example in that piece revolves around numbers of deaths and how people have been posting incorrect numbers AND those with unclear causation.

"The screenshot only shows the headline and the text: “The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed an increased number of deaths reported after a COVID-19 vaccination. Between December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) received 12,313 reports of death among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.”

The next paragraph in the article, which is not visible in the screenshots, shows an update that the CDC modified the number of 12,313 deaths to 6,079. The next paragraph shows a second update that says the CDC modified the number to 6,207.

However, the headline of the article has not been updated to show the correct number as of publishing. It also did not disclose in the headline that the number is sourced from VAERS reports, which do not provide definitive data on COVID-19 vaccine related fatalities.

In a July 21, 2021 page update, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said it had received 6,207 reports of people who had died after receiving a COVID vaccine between Dec. 14, 2020 and July 19, 2021 (here ). But that came with clear caveats. On the same page, it says: “FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.”

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by BrownstoneNorth

Must have been the third shot that fried his brain.

ApS:

July 22, 2021: “I got the Moderna back in January and Feb.”

https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...140#post359140


June 25, 2021: “As to the inoculation, I had the Johnson & Johnson one-shot maybe a month ago: no difference in my daily life.”

https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...629#post357629

That's great!!

[VitaBene]

crickets...

Originally Posted by BrownstoneNorth

Must have been the third shot that fried his brain.

ApS:

July 22, 2021: “I got the Moderna back in January and Feb.”

https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...140#post359140


June 25, 2021: “As to the inoculation, I had the Johnson & Johnson one-shot maybe a month ago: no difference in my daily life.”

https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...629#post357629

[SailinAway]

Originally Posted by BrownstoneNorth

ApS:

July 22, 2021: “I got the Moderna back in January and Feb.”

Pretty sure he only showed up at the National Guard site because he heard Madonna was going to be there.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by ApS

The "vaccinated" can still infect others.

Today's "break-throughs" are milder in effects.

The "Delta" variant, though highly transmissible, is killing many fewer people.

Newly vaccinated people are reportedly dying of vaccinations' after-effects.

European researchers report the presence of graphene oxide in vaccinations, and have alerted their peers in the western hemisphere.

Pushing vaccinations on the least-affected age groups may ultimately prove harmful to them.

Six Yankees test positive, while one million of the world's "impoverished" will cross our borders this year. I may have used up my "Stupid" allotment.

Those unvaccinated--who contracted the Wuhan Flu--have the best immunity going.

It's really bizarre, pitiful, and dangerous that you keep doing this. Everyone who has any understanding of health or statistics, and is not paranoid, understands that the vaccine will make them and their families much safer.

[John Mercier]

So let Aps et al get sick and maybe die... Darwinism works.

NH is a case study in Darwinism. Even those that survive to old age experience it when their savings run out.

[Newbiesaukee]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

So let Aps et al get sick and maybe die... Darwinism works.

NH is a case study in Darwinism. Even those that survive to old age experience it when their savings run out.

I don’t want that for APS. Just wish better references and more critical thinking.

Totally off-topic and I guess you are using “Darwinism” figuratively; but there is new research on genetics suggesting it is not quite so “simple” as Darwin postulated.

[John Mercier]

It is figuratively.
Since most will pass on their genes to the next generation long before they die.

Most are going to find that business in the local area will begin to act once again in their own interests. Anything outside what is considered the ''norm'' will not only suffer disdain, but be restricted.

[trfour]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...ealth-n1274288

[trfour]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-says-n1274984

[TheTimeTraveler]

If folks haven't procured the Vaccine by now then they have no one to blame except themselves....