Vaccinations

[smith point boater]

Sue - As with the first shot we both had sore arms (at injection site ) about 12 hrs later. It lasted less than 24 hrs for me. On the 2nd shot my wife had some muscle pain near her hip (not a pull or strain) overnite. She took 2 Ibuprofin and it went away by mid day Wednesday.

We had heard many varying reaction stories - all true. 2 daughter in laws in their 30's (they are in the medical field) had much harsher reactions. Feel we were lucky to get away with minor issues both times. I've read the reaction is worse the younger you are. We are 66/65. Whatever it is its worth it - 2 more weeks and we'll be as protected as we can be.

FYI We waited 24hrs and are on the road to Florida for a long awaited trip

Good luck with yours

[CK5 Truck]

IDK how old most of you are here, but it seems most want the shot but seem to be nervous about when they will be able to get it. I have a customer who is a Phizer executive and this is what he has explained to me, MOST of this whole thing is political, yes people have died and that is serious, this vaccine that everyone was in a hurry to get out was actually ready 3 weeks BEFORE the election, BUT the political powers that be kept it delayed so Trump wouldnt get any positive press. Even more sinister than that is he says there are no less than 6 drug therapies available and have been available, but if your diagnosis is COVID 19 your Dr was not allowed to prescribe it, the diagnosis had to be something along the lines of upper respiratory infection. This is absolutely TRUE as I had a particularly horrible case of COVID in the beginning and and it took me describing to my Dr I think Im dying that she changed my diagnosis to upper respiratory infection where I received one of the Rx and within 48 hrs I was back to my normal self even though the Rx was 4x a day for almost a month. Ive never worn a mask throughout and I have never been sick since. If anyone reading this gets COVID (bad case) ask to have diagnosis called upper resperatory infection so you can be treated or esle get a new Dr. Playing politics with peoples lives is just plain evil.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by CK5 Truck

IDK how old most of you are here, but it seems most want the shot but seem to be nervous about when they will be able to get it. I have a customer who is a Phizer executive and this is what he has explained to me, MOST of this whole thing is political, yes people have died and that is serious, this vaccine that everyone was in a hurry to get out was actually ready 3 weeks BEFORE the election, BUT the political powers that be kept it delayed so Trump wouldnt get any positive press. Even more sinister than that is he says there are no less than 6 drug therapies available and have been available, but if your diagnosis is COVID 19 your Dr was not allowed to prescribe it, the diagnosis had to be something along the lines of upper respiratory infection. This is absolutely TRUE as I had a particularly horrible case of COVID in the beginning and and it took me describing to my Dr I think Im dying that she changed my diagnosis to upper respiratory infection where I received one of the Rx and within 48 hrs I was back to my normal self even though the Rx was 4x a day for almost a month. Ive never worn a mask throughout and I have never been sick since. If anyone reading this gets COVID (bad case) ask to have diagnosis called upper resperatory infection so you can be treated or esle get a new Dr. Playing politics with peoples lives is just plain evil.

It's so weird how even the UK is in on the conspiracy since, well, they only approved it 10 days earlier with a much shorter evaluation process that was, in fact, criticized by many.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ope-and-the-us

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[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by CK5 Truck

MOST of this whole thing is political

Most of this whole thing is 500,000 dead Americans.

The rest of your post is also full of misinformation and conspiracy theories, but I'm pretty sure everybody understands that by now.

[DEJ]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

Most of this whole thing is 500,000 dead Americans.

The rest of your post is also full of misinformation and conspiracy theories, but I'm pretty sure everybody understands that by now.

So according to you the Phizer Exec. is a conspiracy spreader. Come on man.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

If this discussion becomes too political, the entire thread will disappear, so tread lightly. I speak from experience.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

It's so weird how even the UK is in on the conspiracy since, well, they only approved it 10 days earlier with a much shorter evaluation process that was, in fact, criticized by many

The US was informed on November 4th, 2020.

CDC: 1918 Spanish Flu killed an estimated 675,000.

"Dr. Anthony Fauci, then a member of the coronavirus task force and now President Biden's top medical adviser, suggested that 100,000 to 200,000 might be the total number."

Originally Posted by Sue Doe-Nym

If this discussion becomes too political, the entire thread will disappear, so tread lightly. I speak from experience.

Maybe not "disappear", but may be "locked".

A member posts a picture of a U.S. postage stamp? Heaven forfend!

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by DEJ

So according to you the Phizer Exec. is a conspiracy spreader. Come on man.

No--I did not say that. I said that CK5 Truck, an anonymous person with 3 posts on this forum, is spreading conspiracies.

Specifically--he called a virus that's caused 500,000 American deaths mostly political, he attributed something to an unnamed Pfizer exec that no Pfizer exec with actual knowledge would say, and he asserted that masks don't matter because he only caught COVID-19 once.

It's funny that a veteran poster such as yourself would assume that a newbie's post on a hot topic would be accurate. I could see accepting or rejecting something more quickly from another veteran based on that person's previous posts. But a new name on an anonymous forum...?

[DEJ]

My apology, I was not aware that the number of post's someone has makes them more credible than others. I also did not realize unity is a one way street. To each their own I guess.

[Kamper]

FWIW: I got a call on Friday to move my date from April 3, to yesterday, February 27. The later date was the earliest available (within 50 miles) at the time. I suspected and had it confirmed at the 'shooting gallery' that the drugstore location had only been finalized and stocked that week and the NH vaccination program was scrambling to fill the newly available slots.

If you are in a similar situation you may get a call also. If you haven't gotten a call yet you might want to call 211/social services to inquire about moving up your shot and let them know you may be available on short notice to go to a new vaccination site if one opens up near you.

Good luck!

[Newbiesaukee]

Just to clarify certain aspects of the so-called "inside" Pfizer story.

The basic idea about this "inside" information is factually flawed.

Basically, in the U.S., physicians are able to write a prescription for any medication which has been approved for any use. I can legally write a prescription for, example, hydroxychloroquine to treat toenail fungus and the pharmacist will fill it. Actually, writing a prescription does not require a diagnosis and the pharmacist will fill it. So the emphasis on the diagnosis of "upper respiratory infection" vs. Covid makes no sense on its surface and this seems to be the key to the poster's discussion. I admit to not really understanding his point.

Now, writing a prescription for hydroxychloroquine would open me up for malpractice suits, refusal of the insurance company to pay for; and any number of penalties...but not in anyway that would resemble what the poster wrote.

Certainly, I see no distinction in writing the diagnosis of Covid vs "upper respiratory infection" in any way that makes any medical; or, for that matter, any political sense. I don't understand how this would effect Pfizer in any practical way.

It's unfortunate that this helpful thread has been hijacked.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by DEJ

My apology, I was not aware that the number of post's someone has makes them more credible than others. I also did not realize unity is a one way street. To each their own I guess.

A person's previous posts are critical to their credibility and understanding their bias.

If I post something, just for example, it's likely to have a liberal to moderate slant, often based on something I read in the NY Times, and likely to be true.

Similarly, if we take Garysanfran as another example, it's likely to have a conservative slant, often based on something he read in the WSJ or Forbes, and also likely to be true.

People such as Gary, me, Think, Sue, ishoot, Maxum, Newbiesaukee...all appreciate that we are leaving long electronic trails. This enables others to evaluate their posts and credibility over time

[gravy boat]

Understanding their bias? Yes.

Critical to their credibility? Negative.

This is social media. More posts do not prove someone credible on any subject or in general.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

Originally Posted by gravy boat

Understanding their bias? Yes.

Critical to their credibility? Negative.

This is social media. More posts do not prove someone credible on any subject or in general.

I agree with you that “more posts don’t necessarily prove someone credible on any subject” , but over time, you can get the gist of a poster’s leanings, whether conservative or liberal, and this can be helpful as you determine for yourself the credibility of position (s) they have taken. Anyhow, that’s how I interpreted Flying’s latest post.

[Descant]

When DES lets too much water out of the lake and I can't use my dock is that C or L? I don't really care. I'm just upset that they, a government agency, took x weeks out of my boating season.

When I go to Town Meeting, I see a lot of friends, some Dems, some Republicans. LOTS of undeclared. We all vote on what we think is best for the town. (Budget, tax rate) We all know what we think, independently. If you listen to Bret Baer or David Muir and vote accordingly, you aren't C or L, you're an idiot. Double that if your philosophy comes from a "national" newspaper, (NYT, LA times) exception granted to the Christian Science Monitor.
Getting honest information these days is a lot harder than it was a few years ago, pre-internet, pre 24 hour cable news, which is opinion pretending to be news.
For me, the Winnipesaukee Forum should be about peeing in Braun Bay and Milfoil in Back Bay, not conservative or liberal national politics.

[DEJ]

Originally Posted by descant

if you listen to bret baer or david muir and vote accordingly, you aren't c or l, you're an idiot. Double that if your philosophy comes from a "national" newspaper, (nyt, la times) exception granted to the christian science monitor.
For me, the winnipesaukee forum should be about peeing in braun bay and milfoil in back bay, not conservative or liberal national politics.

bravo!!!!!

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Descant

When DES lets too much water out of the lake and I can't use my dock is that C or L? I don't really care. I'm just upset that they, a government agency, took x weeks out of my boating season.

When I go to Town Meeting, I see a lot of friends, some Dems, some Republicans. LOTS of undeclared. We all vote on what we think is best for the town. (Budget, tax rate) We all know what we think, independently. If you listen to Bret Baer or David Muir and vote accordingly, you aren't C or L, you're an idiot. Double that if your philosophy comes from a "national" newspaper, (NYT, LA times) exception granted to the Christian Science Monitor.
Getting honest information these days is a lot harder than it was a few years ago, pre-internet, pre 24 hour cable news, which is opinion pretending to be news.
For me, the Winnipesaukee Forum should be about peeing in Braun Bay and Milfoil in Back Bay, not conservative or liberal national politics.

I pretty much agree. My "political" posts are almost always in response to other posters' misinformation on COVID-19. (and BTW, it saddens me greatly that these things are used/viewed as political.) I write them because I think misinformation on the virus is really dangerous and needs to be stopped.

I also agree that people should not take their philosophy from newspapers. But one thing that the national newspapers have is a group of smart people working very hard to get the facts right and report the news (leaving aside their articles labelled "Opinion"). This is not the case on a huge number of other sources. We should all be working to distinguish reliable sources from unreliable.

[DEJ]

"But one thing that the national newspapers have is a group of smart people working very hard to get the facts right and report the news"

Sorry to disagree with you, IMO most national news papers rarely print facts, they print mostly their left or right leaning opinion.

[Descant]

Ja notice? The papers haven't been reporting all those horrible numbers of flu deaths and hospitalizations as they do most years. In this case, they got it right. Virtually nobody got the flu this year. Great vaccine last fall? Masks and social distancing? Same thing for the common cold. Nobody went to school or work with a cold this year. Presumably, future corporate policies will encourage remote work instead of "using up a sick day" or a vacation day. If we can keep some of these lessons in place instead of returning to "normal" we may have a big step forward in public health.

[upthesaukee]

Originally Posted by Descant

Ja notice? The papers haven't been reporting all those horrible numbers of flu deaths and hospitalizations as they do most years. In this case, they got it right. Virtually nobody got the flu this year. Great vaccine last fall? Masks and social distancing? Same thing for the common cold. Nobody went to school or work with a cold this year. Presumably, future corporate policies will encourage remote work instead of "using up a sick day" or a vacation day. If we can keep some of these lessons in place instead of returning to "normal" we may have a big step forward in public health.

When I had my annual exam at the end of January, my provider said they had not had one case of the flu in the office this year. I asked her what her thoughts were on why. She said perhaps an effective vaccine, but more likely all the COVID precautions: wearing masks, not gathering in large groups, sanitation. Seems reasonable to me.

Dave

[Mr. V]

Logically, there is little flu or colds due to three thngs: social distancing, masking, school closures.

As far as exercise, since the health and fitness center I attended is unavailable I walk more, do a bit more yoga (esp. plank, to strengthen the core) and I do a ten to fifteen minute workout daily with a six pound hand weight, doing about eight different reps of forty each, targeting different muscle groups.

I do this twice a day, in the morning and at night while walking / taking my midnight constitutional.

But despite my best efforts I've put on some unwanted pounds since Covid-19 arose, dang it.

[rick35]

My wife and I got our second shots today in Nashua. There was a pretty long line but we were in and out in about 90 minutes. The Guard and Nashua Fire did a great job keeping the line moving. People were patient and waited their turns. Except for one guy. He passed about 20 cars on the left and then cut into the line where someone was nice enough to let him. We formed two lines and crept up to the registration point and this guy ended up right next to me. I could overhear the discussion and he said he didn't get a confirmation and after a couple of more questions it sure sounded like he didn't have an appointment. They let him register anyway and took him aside to do it. Just when I was I was thinking he was an AH for cutting in line he pulled that. Some people! Anyway, be patient when it's your turn and hope that there aren't too many more AHs out there.

[tummyman]

Got our 2nd dose today in Concord at old Sears store. Wife was my Plus 1 for the shot. They moved this site indoors yesterday. Lots of people continually arriving for vaccine. Nat'l Guard did a terrific job as usual and the Concord Fire Dept. was all around the place watching folks to be sure they were OK. Total elapsed time from when we stepped into the building until we went out the door was 30 minutes including the 15 minute safety wait at the end. Everyone was so nice and the efficiency of the process was top notch. THANK YOU to all ! By noon, they thought they had given more than 600 shots...unofficially for sure. People getting first shots all got Pfizer today and those who got the second (like us) got the same brand of shot as their first...in our case Moderna. Makes us proud to be NH residents to see how we are being cared for in this COVID mess !! The shooting gallery folks are really trying hard.

[DRH]

Originally Posted by tummyman

Got our 2nd dose today in Concord at old Sears store. Wife was my Plus 1 for the shot. They moved this site indoors yesterday. Lots of people continually arriving for vaccine. Nat'l Guard did a terrific job as usual and the Concord Fire Dept. was all around the place watching folks to be sure they were OK. Total elapsed time from when we stepped into the building until we went out the door was 30 minutes including the 15 minute safety wait at the end. Everyone was so nice and the efficiency of the process was top notch. THANK YOU to all ! By noon, they thought they had given more than 600 shots...unofficially for sure. People getting first shots all got Pfizer today and those who got the second (like us) got the same brand of shot as their first...in our case Moderna. Makes us proud to be NH residents to see how we are being cared for in this COVID mess !! The shooting gallery folks are really trying hard.

Quilt Lady and I had the same positive experience at the old Sears store in Concord today when we got our second Moderna COVID shots. No lines, very efficient and friendly National Guardsmen (and women), and Bow and Concord Fire Department paramedics. We were in and out in 30 minutes. Thanks to all who worked hard to make this process work so well!

[ApS]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

A person's previous posts are critical to their credibility and understanding their bias.

If I post something, just for example, it's likely to have a liberal to moderate slant, often based on something I read in the NY Times, and likely to be true.

Similarly, if we take Garysanfran as another example, it's likely to have a conservative slant, often based on something he read in the WSJ or Forbes, and also likely to be true.

People such as Gary, me, Think, Sue, ishoot, Maxum, Newbiesaukee...all appreciate that we are leaving long electronic trails. This enables others to evaluate their posts and credibility over time

1) While "leaving long electronic trails", some don't know what country has taken control of Forbes!

2) Sky News' accounts of U.S. vaccinations strongarm U.S. "Pablum":

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_...9001?id=539437

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by smith point boater

Sue - As with the first shot we both had sore arms (at injection site ) about 12 hrs later. It lasted less than 24 hrs for me. On the 2nd shot my wife had some muscle pain near her hip (not a pull or strain) overnite. She took 2 Ibuprofin and it went away by mid day Wednesday.

We had heard many varying reaction stories - all true. 2 daughter in laws in their 30's (they are in the medical field) had much harsher reactions. Feel we were lucky to get away with minor issues both times. I've read the reaction is worse the younger you are. We are 66/65. Whatever it is its worth it - 2 more weeks and we'll be as protected as we can be.

FYI We waited 24hrs and are on the road to Florida for a long awaited trip

Good luck with yours

Reading this does not give me that warm and fuzzy feeling! I had the first shot 28 days ago and had no reaction at all. The second shot is at noon today so we shall see........

I am picking someone up at the airport at 2:30 PM. Maybe I should tell them to take an Uber and come home and go back to bed.

[Newbiesaukee]

The warm and fuzzy feeling should come with your ability to get your second shot.

In a perfect world, it would be better, in my personal non-professional opinion, if you could make other airport arrangements for your guest.

You’ve given yourself a very tight time window. Stuff happens. Get your shot,go home and get on with your life.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee

The warm and fuzzy feeling should come with your ability to get your second shot.

In a perfect world, it would be better, in my personal non-professional opinion, if you could make other airport arrangements for your guest.

You’ve given yourself a very tight time window. Stuff happens. Get your shot,go home and get on with your life.

It's all good! I had the second shot yesterday at noon and picked up my guest at the airport. No ill effects, nothing. Up early this morning and drinking coffee. Feeling great!

However, out of an abundance of caution, I skipped going to the gym and working out yesterday. (I figured, I haven's gone for 30 years, why start now)

[ApS]

Far out!

Bill Gates puts forward the concept of needles everywhere:
https://www.blacklistednews.com/arti...-you-with.html

GMO sucks, while GMM is the future of vaccines.

[fatlazyless]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

However, out of an abundance of caution, I skipped going to the gym and working out yesterday. (I figured, I haven's gone for 30 years, why start now)

Pandemic home exercise:

What works really great as a home style physical fitness, at home exercise, during the pandemic when you don't want to hit the local gym is a 6-lb, $60, Health Hoops - Korean, weighted hula-hoop.

It strengthens the mid-section area; the abs, the lower back, the glutes, the hips and reduces size of your waist line. It is a cardio vascular work-out!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgAS6fhMZkw ....... weighted hula-hoop exercise with Heather....

Plus, it is fun to do, with some good strong exercise music going on!

....... no pain ...... no gain! .....

More energized, faster ..... www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAtGBG_7ICY ......... 'Hula Hoop Workout mit Regina Hickst' (in German)