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Old 05-13-2020, 02:27 PM   #1
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You cannot say that Florida has been a well managed state. Our governor has made mistake after mistake and he has constantly been in the news because of this.

There’s definitely something about the heat down here or the sun or the humidity that has given the people of Florida some kind of extra protection. Our governor just got lucky.
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Glad this thread didn't turn political and negative, so uplifting in these difficult times.

I thought for certain that by mentioning TRUMP in the third line that would have guaranteed a solid philosophical discussion based on the merits.
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Glad this thread didn't turn political and negative, so uplifting in these difficult times.

I thought for certain that by mentioning TRUMP in the third line that would have guaranteed a solid philosophical discussion based on the merits.
May I try to explain myself? What I wrote was, "We have four events right now that were unimaginable 20 or 30 years ago: a climate crisis, the Trump phenomenon, the pandemic, and now an economic crash that economists are calling worse than the Great Depression." When I was questioned about the word "phenomenon" I gave the dictionary definition: "a rare or significant fact or event" and I said, "The four events I mentioned are all phenomena." All I was hoping for was to hear people's personal experiences and thoughts about the COVID-19 crisis and how it might change their life in the long term.
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I think the country will go into a Depression starting in June. In our 60’s we just retired and moved here and these would have been our last really good years. We had plans for a nice new life in our golden years and wanted to take advantage of all the wonderful venues and activities in the area. The virus thing hit a month after we moved so we could barely get acclimated. I am worried about our savings that we are essentially living on right now.

My husband and I can look back and say we had a decent life- lucky really- we worked hard and we had a beautiful family home and lots of land back in NY- and wonderful
experiences and vacations.

Our doctors office is closed for now and we never even were able to
meet him as we are new patients. We had our medical records sent to his office office before we moved. We need preventative care and screenings. We are hoping to stay healthy as long as possible but let’s face it we are getting older and things are bound to creep up.

I am sad about it but I have resolved that our life is over. I cry. I get depressed. I am drinking more wine than I should. Thankfully we have a home and food and some nice neighbors.

Now I only care about our son who has been laid off because of this and is young and lives alone. If he needs help we will be here for him. That is what keeps us going. At a time when the young people should be moving forward in life they now have been dealt this card.

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I think the country will go into a Depression starting in June. In our 60’s we just retired and moved here and these would have been our last really good years. We had plans for a nice new life in our golden years and wanted to take advantage of all the wonderful venues and activities in the area. The virus thing hit a month after we moved so we could barely get acclimated. I am worried about our savings that we are essentially living on right now.

My husband and I can look back and say we had a decent life- lucky really- we worked hard and we had a beautiful family home and lots of land back in NY- and wonderful
experiences and vacations.

Our doctors office is closed for now and we never even were able to
meet him as we are new patients. We had our medical records sent to his office office before we moved. We need preventative care and screenings. We are hoping to stay healthy as long as possible but let’s face it we are getting older and things are bound to creep up.

I am sad about it but I have resolved that our life is over. I cry. I get depressed. I am drinking more wine than I should. Thankfully we have a home and food and done nice neighbors.

Now I only care about our son who has been laid off because of this and is young and lives alone. If he needs help we will be here for him. That is what keeps us going. At a time when the young people should be moving forward in life they now have been dealt this card.
You need to seek help. That is a very poor outlook on life and it won't serve you well in your retirement years. I wish you the best.

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I think the country will go into a Depression starting in June. In our 60’s we just retired and moved here and these would have been our last really good years. We had plans for a nice new life in our golden years and wanted to take advantage of all the wonderful venues and activities in the area. The virus thing hit a month after we moved so we could barely get acclimated. I am worried about our savings that we are essentially living on right now.

My husband and I can look back and say we had a decent life- lucky really- we worked hard and we had a beautiful family home and lots of land back in NY- and wonderful
experiences and vacations.

Our doctors office is closed for now and we never even were able to
meet him as we are new patients. We had our medical records sent to his office office before we moved. We need preventative care and screenings. We are hoping to stay healthy as long as possible but let’s face it we are getting older and things are bound to creep up.

I am sad about it but I have resolved that our life is over. I cry. I get depressed. I am drinking more wine than I should. Thankfully we have a home and food and done nice neighbors.

Now I only care about our son who has been laid off because of this and is young and lives alone. If he needs help we will be here for him. That is what keeps us going. At a time when the young people should be moving forward in life they now have been dealt this card.
My God man...relax will ya! It’s a real bad flu not the end of the world!

The liquor stores remain essential. I highly recommend You visit soon and pickup a Bottle of high end Cabernet and a straw!

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Map...please seek help....you could easily live another 10-15-20 years and you should have things to look forward to. And ditch the alcohol....it's a depressive. Go for long walks and enjoy the beauty of simple things. Volunteer. Reach out for support. My wife and I are 67 and we still work three days a week helping people. We stopped drinking years ago and our lives improved markedly. This will pass, and life marches on.
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Map...please seek help....you could easily live another 10-15-20 years and you should have things to look forward to. And ditch the alcohol....it's a depressive. Go for long walks and enjoy the beauty of simple things. Volunteer. Reach out for support. My wife and I are 67 and we still work three days a week helping people. We stopped drinking years ago and our lives improved markedly. This will pass, and life marches on.
Yes. I do exercise every day, take walks by the lake, etc. Getting outside helps. I get depressed and then I snap out of it and then i get depressed again. I will not give up my alcohol as it relaxes my over active mind. I do not sleep very well. I do try to limit it to weekends and maybe once or twice during the week will have a glass or 2 of wine, so it is not like I am an alkie. But it is more than I usually would have. Plus- this Friday we have a ZOOM meeting for Happy Hour with our old NY friends!

I am going to see if I can volunteer for something but I do not want to be wearing the darn mask. Wearing the mask and seeing others wearing it makes me very frustrated and depressed. I can't stand the whole making the mask a fashion statement thing and the whole "we are all in this together" thing. Ra ra ra - let's take a photo with our masks on. Pleeeease....

My husband is floundering right now. He joined the local range and as soon as he sent the check it closed. He never got to use it. We still have not heard what they are going to do in terms of opening or a refund or whatever. This is his main hobby and he was so looking forward to going. Why a range cannot be open is beyond me. Having no property where we live now he cannot even go outside to practice. Where we used to live we had a ton of acreage. Before he retired he talked of maybe working part-time at Lowes or something like that but he really did not get a chance to find his way yet as he is only retired a couple of months and we moved and everything.

In terms of looking forward to things in the future, well, I was and this happened- all I know is we are not getting any younger and at this age the time is NOW. Well- at least it would have been now. My mother had breast cancer at age 65. I am 64. My grandmother had ovarian cancer at age 61. I worked in healthcare all my life so I have seen it all.

I am actually very future oriented- have been all my life. A big planner and all that. As soon as I would do one thing I was already on to the next one. But right now I do not see the next one. MY calendar is essentially empty.

Don't get me wrong. I am very task oriented and I keep busy with the little things in life and the day goes pretty fast amazingly.

I do not want to sound like "woa is me" because we are luckier than most. As I said, I feel more sorry for the younger folks who have plans- school. graduation, weddings. careers, having children. buying a house, travel, etc.

I can handle my sadness. But I am a realist and I am hoping I am way off on my opinion and everything will end up being gumdrops and lollipops.

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My God man...relax will ya! It’s a real bad flu not the end of the world!

The liquor stores remain essential. I highly recommend You visit soon and pickup a Bottle of high end Cabernet and a straw!

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Dan, please! Have a heart! Your response to this person who is really hurting is shockingly lacking in compassion. I hope that she is able to get some help for her feelings of desperation. Depression is a dreadful affliction. Please get some help, map. Best of luck.
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Dan, please! Have a heart! Your response to this person who is really hurting is shockingly lacking in compassion. I hope that she is able to get some help for her feelings of desperation. Depression is a dreadful affliction. Please get some help, map. Best of luck.
In your post, #24, you reprimanded me for criticizing what I thought was an insensitive post.

Now, here...

Pick a team, would you?

May God bless you, map!
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Ironically we chose the NH community we moved to for the social opportunities it offered. We lived in the woods all our lives with no neighbors but because we both worked full time dealing with the public it was a welcome retreat. But we knew when we retired it would not be a good lifestyle to age into with limited social contact so here we are.

Thankfully we have met some nice people here but, of course, the social activities are not happening.

Really I am ok. I have come to terms with a certain level of acceptance of this whole situation. After all, we have no control over it. Let go and let God. I do believe (spiritually) there is a reason for everything. Life is what happens when you are making other plans, as they say.
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Ironically we chose the NH community we moved to for the social opportunities it offered. We lived in the woods all our lives with no neighbors but because we both worked full time dealing with the public it was a welcome retreat. But we knew when we retired it would not be a good lifestyle to age into with limited social contact so here we are.

Thankfully we have met some nice people here but, of course, the social activities are not happening.

Really I am ok. I have come to terms with a certain level of acceptance of this whole situation. After all, we have no control over it. Let go and let God. I do believe (spiritually) there is a reason for everything. Life is what happens when you are making other plans, as they say.

I just want you to know that I have my good days and bad days too. I have been totally isolated since the end of February, and I finally decided that it was safe to let my son come and visit me on my lanai outside 25 feet away. I had the umbrella set up a couple of days early and put some chairs over there for him. And then Mother’s Day came and it decided to rain. Luckily, my son sucked it up, and sat under the umbrella in the pool to stay dry. LOL. Sometimes I feel like I have the worst luck of anyone.

I am a breast cancer survivor. I grew my own organic vegetables starting back in the 70s and always lived a healthy lifestyle. I was shocked that in my 50s I was diagnosed with cancer that was caused by some toxins in my environment.
I have also had a meltdown post on here. It seems like I have worked so hard in the last 15 + years to get stronger, I’ve also had to gain 35 pounds because of osteoporosis drugs that made me so sick I was not able to keep anything down. It seems like all I’m trying to do is recover from something. At my age, my mother was so healthy compared to me.
The thought of my children and grandchildren coming to visit me often was a thing that kept me motivated. Of course, this has all changed and my grandchildren who are in Baltimore have not been able to come at all.

As hard as it is for me to believe, I’m going to be 70 on May 26. My daughter and her family as well as my youngest son were all going to drag me over to Disney World So we could have a week just hanging out together and ordering room service by the pool. They were going to go to Disney and then I would rest until the next day. Nothing to look forward to now.
The only thing that gets me through is that I have a beautiful home with a beautiful pool and I have property that I can go out and enjoy.

You mentioned you moved from an area where you had lots of land and it sounds to me like you may be missing that as well. When I first moved here, I chose another development that had a community pool and tennis courts and a big meeting room where they had all kinds of activities for all the residents to do. I thought I wanted that lifestyle, but I was wrong.

I need to have my own space and be able to do my own thing. Have you asked yourself if part of the problem is you chose the wrong place to live? If you had some property and your husband could go out and shoot in his backyard, would that improve your situation? You don’t have to be stuck with a wrong decision.
We don’t all consider this to be just like the flu. Many of us are taking it very seriously.
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We don’t all consider this to be just like the flu. Many of us are taking it very seriously.
The flu/influenza can also be serious. It is responsible for ten of thousands of deaths every year. Influenza and Covid-19 are similar in this way. Both can cause tens of thousands to die. However, a large percentage do not die and recover from it. I think what is lost during this entire pandemic is many may carry it but never get sick or exhibit symptoms. A large percentage who do get sick from it or exhibit symptoms will be mild enough to treat and recover at home and not require hospitalization, just like influenza. The sensational media do not talk about the positive only the deaths.
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I did not mean to imply that the flu is not serious. The little flower girl in my daughter’s wedding who suffered from down syndrome and other issues and was not able to be vaccinated against the flu died four years ago from complications of the flu. It was beyond devastating!
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I just want you to know that I have my good days and bad days too. I have been totally isolated since the end of February, and I finally decided that it was safe to let my son come and visit me on my lanai outside 25 feet away. I had the umbrella set up a couple of days early and put some chairs over there for him. And then Mother’s Day came and it decided to rain. Luckily, my son sucked it up, and sat under the umbrella in the pool to stay dry. LOL. Sometimes I feel like I have the worst luck of anyone.

I am a breast cancer survivor. I grew my own organic vegetables starting back in the 70s and always lived a healthy lifestyle. I was shocked that in my 50s I was diagnosed with cancer that was caused by some toxins in my environment.
I have also had a meltdown post on here. It seems like I have worked so hard in the last 15 + years to get stronger, I’ve also had to gain 35 pounds because of osteoporosis drugs that made me so sick I was not able to keep anything down. It seems like all I’m trying to do is recover from something. At my age, my mother was so healthy compared to me.
The thought of my children and grandchildren coming to visit me often was a thing that kept me motivated. Of course, this has all changed and my grandchildren who are in Baltimore have not been able to come at all.

As hard as it is for me to believe, I’m going to be 70 on May 26. My daughter and her family as well as my youngest son were all going to drag me over to Disney World So we could have a week just hanging out together and ordering room service by the pool. They were going to go to Disney and then I would rest until the next day. Nothing to look forward to now.
The only thing that gets me through is that I have a beautiful home with a beautiful pool and I have property that I can go out and enjoy.

You mentioned you moved from an area where you had lots of land and it sounds to me like you may be missing that as well. When I first moved here, I chose another development that had a community pool and tennis courts and a big meeting room where they had all kinds of activities for all the residents to do. I thought I wanted that lifestyle, but I was wrong.

I need to have my own space and be able to do my own thing. Have you asked yourself if part of the problem is you chose the wrong place to live? If you had some property and your husband could go out and shoot in his backyard, would that improve your situation? You don’t have to be stuck with a wrong decision.
We don’t all consider this to be just like the flu. Many of us are taking it very seriously.
Wow. I just visited a friend of mine yesterday in Eaton. It was her 70th birthday as well. She lives alone in a remote location. Just moved there from another state where she lived in the city a year ago. She loves it but admits she has not been able to meet many people and especially now.

I feel for you being a cancer survivor and it makes this virus thing all the more scary for you and then also having your plans being with your family destroyed. Just terrible.

I try to have faith but I am obviously not doing a good job of it. Have to work on it more.

We chose this brand new house also for the price (even though if you ask me all the homes are over priced in NH for what they are - especially compared to the family home we sold in NY) and low maintenance. It is actually like a cottage- one level. We felt as we age we should not be isolated and also if we did not move now it would only be harder later.

I never want to go through moving again. We had to move to a rental first before this house was finished and my husband was able to retire. Then we had to move again- here- in the winter. Downsizing was a ton of work as well- and we are not hoarders by any stretch. And we are still dealing with the builder and some problems with the house which does not lend to a good feeling. I want to make this a home- not just a house. But that includes having family visit as you mentioned yourself.

I need some social or I will go bonkers. I am not sure if this was right or not but when I get out into nature - though I have to drive to it- it does help a lot. I can walk to the boardwalk so that is good also.

If I can get out onto the lake on the MS Mt Washington or mail boats that will be good for me also. But who knows if that will happen this year. We cannot afford the expense and don't want the hassle of owning a boat. Not like we live on the water either. Wish I had my own pool though as the one here is small and cold and a lot of kids and anyway it isn't opening now. If I can find a quiet lake beach to launch my floaty in the summer I will love that. But they need to have bathrooms open at these parks.

Anyway, all we can do is hang in there and take one day at a time.
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Dan, please! Have a heart! Your response to this person who is really hurting is shockingly lacking in compassion. I hope that she is able to get some help for her feelings of desperation. Depression is a dreadful affliction. Please get some help, map. Best of luck.
I wasn't trying to be heartless and apologize if I came across that way. I was merely trying to inject a dose of reality to map which can be the best form of compassion to those living on the outer edges...

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My God man...relax will ya! It’s a real bad flu not the end of the world!

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LOL! I don't do RED- I'm a White drinker.
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Might I recommend Stags Leap chardonnay then?...You will love it, especially if shared with the one you love!

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Might I recommend Stags Leap chardonnay then?...You will love it, especially if shared with the one you love!

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That is what I am drinking tonight for the Zoom Happy Hour with our NYC friends!

Hubby is not a drinker. He will probably have some blackberry brandy- yuk! LOL!
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Hubby is not a drinker. He will probably have some blackberry brandy- yuk! LOL!
I had to laugh when you mentioned blackberry brandy. My father turned me onto this as a way to stay warm before going out on the snowmobile.
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I find it ironic, as with most of this, that non residents can go to a mini golf Course now, but not allowed to golf or use a driving range
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My husband always takes a bottle when he goes away hunting with his buddies for the week.
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