"Social Distancing" at the Lake

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Major

I think you need a history lesson. Starting with the Civil War, Reconstruction, Segregation, Re-segregation (by Woodrow Wilson), Jim Crow, etc., the party of racism was the Democrats. HRC's idol, Robert Byrd, was the exulted cyclops of the KKK. He was in the Senate until 2010. Research what Lyndon Johnson said while returning to his ranch after signing the Civil Rights Act (which was initiated by Republicans). What you are saying is patently false. Who is the party of identity politics?

Agreed that there are plenty of racist Democrats, such as Byrd. But let's not throw LBJ under the same label. I don't know what he said when he got back to his ranch, but far more importantly than anything he might have said, he did champion the Civil Rights Act--at significant political cost. Richard Nixon capitalized on the backlash with his Southern Strategy, and of course, that was pretty much the end of the South for the Dems.

Given your interest in this though, doesn't it at least bug you that Trump has said a number of things that have inflamed racial tensions? Just for example--don't you wish he had not said there were good people on both sides when referring to the Charlottesville white nationalist march?

[Major]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

Agreed that there are plenty of racist Democrats, such as Byrd. But let's not throw LBJ under the same label. I don't know what he said when he got back to his ranch, but far more importantly than anything he might have said, he did champion the Civil Rights Act--at significant political cost. Richard Nixon capitalized on the backlash with his Southern Strategy, and of course, that was pretty much the end of the South for the Dems.

Given your interest in this though, doesn't it at least bug you that Trump has said a number of things that have inflamed racial tensions? Just for example--don't you wish he had not said there were good people on both sides when referring to the Charlottesville white nationalist march?

LBJ was a reluctant champion. He did it to secure votes, plain and simple. The CRA started as a republican initiative in the late 1950s.

Nothing Trump has said has bugged me. He calls thing as he sees them. Regarding Charlottesville, the other side he was referencing wasn't the white nationalists, but the first amendment supporters. There were many groups there. He has NEVER said that he supports the KKK or white nationalists.

He was on national TV for 15 years, worked with hundreds if not thousands of people. If he had any hint of racism, or is a racists, we could call on dozens of examples from this period of time. NOTHING. (As an anecdote, I know a producer of the Apprentice, who is far from conservative, who states that Trump was good to everyone, and that there was never any instances of misogynist or racist behavior.) He has been in the public light for nearly 40 years. NOTHING. These accusations are about as real as Russian collusion.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Major

there was never any instances of misogynist ...behavior

You know, you lose all credibility for your fair points (like Byrd was a racist) when you follow them with stuff that we all know is not true. You might Google Trump misogynistic statements, then ask a partner at your law firm what would happen to an employee who said this stuff on the job or even broadcast while not on the job.

[Major]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

You know, you lose all credibility for your fair points (like Byrd was a racist) when you follow them with stuff that we all know is not true. You might Google Trump misogynistic statements, then ask a partner at your law firm what would happen to an employee who said this stuff on the job or even broadcast while not on the job.

I hate to break it to you, worst things are said in locker rooms all the time. He had a private moment with a reporter over 10 years ago. If that's all you have then you don't have much.

What he said to Billy Bush cannot be compared to saying something to an employee in a business or workplace setting. I taught and conducted presentations on workplace harassment and discrimination for years in the military. I have a lot of experience in this area of the law.

[coolyourjets]

Originally Posted by Major

LBJ was a reluctant champion. He did it to secure votes, plain and simple. The CRA started as a republican initiative in the late 1950s.

Nothing Trump has said has bugged me. He calls thing as he sees them. Regarding Charlottesville, the other side he was referencing wasn't the white nationalists, but the first amendment supporters. There were many groups there. He has NEVER said that he supports the KKK or white nationalists.

He was on national TV for 15 years, worked with hundreds if not thousands of people. If he had any hint of racism, or is a racists, we could call on dozens of examples from this period of time. NOTHING. (As an anecdote, I know a producer of the Apprentice, who is far from conservative, who states that Trump was good to everyone, and that there was never any instances of misogynist or racist behavior.) He has been in the public light for nearly 40 years. NOTHING. These accusations are about as real as Russian collusion.

Google it. There are several reports of racist behavior while he was on the Apprentice. So, it’s not really NOTHING.


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[ApS]

Originally Posted by coolyourjets

Google it. There are several reports of racist behavior while he was on the Apprentice. So, it’s not really NOTHING.

Checked.

The BBC version is widely criticized.

[Major]

Originally Posted by coolyourjets

Google it. There are several reports of racist behavior while he was on the Apprentice. So, it’s not really NOTHING.


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I don’t need to google anything. My source is solid. He knows Trump and his family well. This is FAKE news.


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