What is everyone doing?

[WinnisquamZ]

Tonight, went out to O’s thinking it might be a bit slow for a Saturday. Good to say I was wrong. Full restaurant and bar. Had to wait for a table. Was told it was the same last night. Many summer folks are back for the next two weeks due to Mass closing their schools.


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[baygo]

Originally Posted by WinnisquamZ

Tonight, went out to O’s thinking it might be a bit slow for a Saturday. Good to say I was wrong. Full restaurant and bar. Had to wait for a table. Was told it was the same last night. Many summer folks are back for the next two weeks due to Mass closing their schools.


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Glad to hear the restaurants are busy. We closed down on March 2nd took our entire staff to Florida for two weeks. We will be returning for business Wednesday. I was concerned that I would have to promote a free roll of toilet paper with the purchase of half-price martinis.

[steve-on-mark]

Originally Posted by baygo

Glad to hear the restaurants are busy. We closed down on March 2nd took our entire staff to Florida for two weeks. We will be returning for business Wednesday. I was concerned that I would have to promote a free roll of toilet paper with the purchase of half-price martinis.

You might be onto something there!

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[WinnisquamZ]

Originally Posted by baygo

Glad to hear the restaurants are busy. We closed down on March 2nd took our entire staff to Florida for two weeks. We will be returning for business Wednesday. I was concerned that I would have to promote a free roll of toilet paper with the purchase of half-price martinis.

Welcome back, your clientele will fill your place as always. Would not give up so soon on that half price martinis for a roll of TB tho!


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[tummyman]

Seems many are not paying attention to the directions coming out from national sources. This is serious. It is not a vacation as some may be thinking with schools shut. It is meant to keep people from congregating and intends for them to STAY HOME....not fill restaurants, movie theaters, shopping malls, etc. Sorry, but it really concerns us. MA certainly has stepped up things faster and more aggressively than NH. Some will disagree and that is fine. This is just my opinion.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by tummyman

Seems many are not paying attention to the directions coming out from national sources. This is serious. It is not a vacation as some may be thinking with schools shut. It is meant to keep people from congregating and intends for them to STAY HOME....not fill restaurants, movie theaters, shopping malls, etc. Sorry, but it really concerns us. MA certainly has stepped up things faster and more aggressively than NH. Some will disagree and that is fine. This is just my opinion.

Count me as one who disagrees. Be vigilant especially if you are elderly and or have underlying issues, practice good hygiene don’t touch anything you do not have to without sanitizing but remember it is not and airborne virus you need contact to contract it.


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[Biggd]

Many people think it's not a problem until you get it. That's the problem and that's how it spreads.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Many people think it's not a problem until you get it. That's the problem and that's how it spreads.

I never said it wasn’t a problem I just think there is an amount of overreacting. Everyone needs to be vigilant and for some it’s quarantine for others it’s hygiene and sanitizing while trying to maintain some semblance of their lives. To each his own.


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[gillygirl]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Count me as one who disagrees. Be vigilant especially if you are elderly and or have underlying issues, practice good hygiene don’t touch anything you do not have to without sanitizing but remember it is not and airborne virus you need contact to contract it.


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It most definitely is an airborne virus.


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[joey2665]

Originally Posted by gillygirl

It most definitely is an airborne virus.


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Not from what I have seen according to the CDC. If you have seen something from them in writing stating it is airborne I would love to see it and consider its merits


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[tummyman]

If not airborne (I believe it is airborne as well as other means of transmission!) , why are health care workers dressed masks, gloves, face shields, plastic suits, (covered head to toe), etc. etc. ? Why are we being told to stay 6 ft away in social distancing if all the concern is just from touching? Why are people told how to sneeze and cough to avoid airborne droplets? Yes indeed, airborne it is, as well as from touching infected surfaces and people. It is HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS!

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by tummyman

If not airborne (I believe it is airborne as well as other means of transmission!) , why are health care workers dressed masks, gloves, face shields, plastic suits, (covered head to toe), etc. etc. ? Why are we being told to stay 6 ft away in social distancing if all the concern is just from touching? Why are people told how to sneeze and cough to avoid airborne droplets? Yes indeed, airborne it is, as well as from touching infected surfaces and people. It is HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS!

Completely out of precaution. Again show me where in writing the CDC says it is airborne and I will consider it. I have yet to find it but maybe I am missing something.


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[tummyman]

Right from the CDC web site....here is the link and below is an excerpt...
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...revention.html

Know How it Spreads
Illustration: woman sneezing on man
There is currently no vaccine to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).
The best way to prevent illness is to avoid being exposed to this virus.
The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.
Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.
These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.

Time to move on........

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by tummyman

Right from the CDC web site....here is the link and below is an excerpt...

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...revention.html

Know How it Spreads

Illustration: woman sneezing on man

There is currently no vaccine to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).

The best way to prevent illness is to avoid being exposed to this virus.

The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.

Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).

Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.

These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.

Time to move on........

Well since you have said “time to move on” we absolutely should. Didn’t know you were the webmaster


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[map]

Originally Posted by gillygirl

It most definitely is an airborne virus.


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No it is not airborne. It is contracted from droplets that fall on surfaces, including being coughed or sneezed on. This is different from just breathing in the air around you and contracting a virus.

[Biggd]

I really don't care if it's air born or not. You can't be cautious enough and who is to say that everyone is taking the same precautions as I am.
If we didn't take these precautions we could end up like Italy so it's not unreasonable for the news media to get the word out.
The only way you can prevent panic is not to release information and that's worse. It eventually comes out with even worse results.
We don't want to be like China and only give out information that they want us to hear.

[gillygirl]

Originally Posted by map

No it is not airborne. It is contracted from droplets that fall on surfaces, including being coughed or sneezed on. This is different from just breathing in the air around you and contracting a virus.

Guess there’s debate among the infectious disease community that is causing the confusion with regards to the airborne nomenclature.

https://www.wired.com/story/they-say...-borne-by-air/

For me, this snippet from the CDC makes clear that you can catch it through the air and not just by touching a surface that it’s landed on.

“The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.

Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.
These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.”

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...nsmission.html


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[BrownstoneNorth]

Originally Posted by gillygirl

Guess there’s debate among the infectious disease community that is causing the confusion with regards to the airborne nomenclature.

https://www.wired.com/story/they-say...-borne-by-air/

For me, this snippet from the CDC makes clear that you can catch it through the air and not just by touching a surface that it’s landed on.

“The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.

Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.
These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.”

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...nsmission.html


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Of course you can catch it through the air, just by infected people breathing within a few feet of you. If contagion were only through surfaces, it couldn't possibly have become the pandemic that it is.

There's zero confusion among experts about this, and Gillygirl is absolutely right that any confusion is only about the nomenclature/terminology used by experts. Coronavirus germs are not “airborne” in the sense do not float in the air for long periods of time, but easily enough time to be inhaled by anyone nearby before they drop to surfaces.

My daughter-in-law is an infectious diseases and infection control specialist at a major hospital. Her brother is a pulmonary and primary doctor at a smaller hospital in a different city. They obviously both wear extreme protective gear at work and are scrupulous about what and how they touch any surfaces outside. He has just been diagnosed with the disease, which he could only have caught by inhaling it from someone when he was in streetwear. Fortunately, he's strong, otherwise healthy, and in his late 30s, so his case is expected to be mild-moderate, and he's quarantined in one particular area of his family's home — hopefully, his much more vulnerable parents-in-law, who live in the same home, didn't get it when he was incubating.

Anyone who can read the CDC info yet shrug off social-distancing should not share his obtuseness on public forums.

[Formula260SS]

I own a business, went North Skiing with a friend who owns a business as well on Thursday night. Listened to him for three hours going off on how this is all an overreaction. The situation developed and the ski area closed after Saturday. Guess what I listed to for three hours all the way home? You guessed it - What are we going to do with our employees and protect ourselves.

For a not so comical situation it was quite comical to remind him of his shift in perspective.

We are taking common sense measures at work - good hygiene, limiting social activity and everyone knows if they even think they are sick to stay home. I have two people traveling, I am in contact to monitor their situations and if they think they are a risk they will stay home without question.

Once someone in a company contracts it, it's a shut-down for the business. You can't expect people to come into a building where there's been a case, it just won't happen. We live in the commercial / Industrial world and feel like if we can stay healthy this whole mess won't sting as much. I feel bad for the businesses that are taking a hit. Let's work to make sure things are as short lived as possible, no need to go into the Lake season with an economic slow down.

[MAXUM]

Originally Posted by tummyman

Seems many are not paying attention to the directions coming out from national sources. This is serious. It is not a vacation as some may be thinking with schools shut. It is meant to keep people from congregating and intends for them to STAY HOME....not fill restaurants, movie theaters, shopping malls, etc. Sorry, but it really concerns us. MA certainly has stepped up things faster and more aggressively than NH. Some will disagree and that is fine. This is just my opinion.

To what end? Are we going to shut this country down indefinitely while everyone stays at home cowering in fear? Easy for career politicians to say as they don't have a real job you have to show up to and be productive on a daily basis. Doctors well they often times give unrealistic recommendations as well.

Isolating yourself from this is futile. It's not a matter of if but when you are exposed. Simple as that. Isolation may buy you two things, a little time and a false sense of security.

I continue to go to work, if I get sick I will stay home get better or die, depending on which will determine where I am this summer, at the lake or 6 feet under. For now planning on the lake.

[gillygirl]

Originally Posted by MAXUM

To what end?

To flatten the rate of infection so the healthcare system isn’t overwhelmed.


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