Hot Tip.........Big Boat......Coming Soon

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by ApS

Fifty-five thousand pounds, and the lake is already high!

Your agenda is well known and your years of protests have been acknowledged. Instead of waking up every day and thinking of all the changes on the lake that displease you perhaps you could find a small lake with a 1920's feel that will be more to your liking. Life is too short to be as negative as you seem to be.

Or, if you are really serious about your objection to larger boats on the lake, instead of being a keyboard warrior why not take some action? Start at the top!

Get into your Prius with the "Bernie Bros" bumper sticker on it and head over to the Weirs. When the families are boarding the Mount Washington for a day of enjoyment on the lake you could be strutting your stuff on the dock with a sign protesting "over sized boats".

Anything else is just negative noise!

[Biggd]

Here we go, bringing the political crap to a thread again!

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Your agenda is well known and your years of protests have been acknowledged. Instead of waking up every day and thinking of all the changes on the lake that displease you perhaps you could find a small lake with a 1920's feel that will be more to your liking. Life is too short to be as negative as you seem to be.

Or, if you are really serious about your objection to larger boats on the lake, instead of being a keyboard warrior why not take some action? Start at the top!

Get into your Prius with the "Bernie Bros" bumper sticker on it and head over to the Weirs. When the families are boarding the Mount Washington for a day of enjoyment on the lake you could be strutting your stuff on the dock with a sign protesting "over sized boats".

Anything else is just negative noise!

Awesome response. It's bad enough we have a speed limit , but now we want to restrict boat size? It is absolutely incredible and just another case of the tail trying to wag the dog

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Awesome response. It's bad enough we have a speed limit , but now we want to restrict boat size? It is absolutely incredible and just another case of the tail trying to wag the dog

Two different things, speed limit is about safety. I don't think the size of a boat will affect safety on the lake.

Personally I don't care what size boat someone has but I do care about how fast they are going, esp when it's a busy weekend. You can't count on every boater being responsible, careful, and respectful.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Two different things, speed limit is about safety. I don't think the size of a boat will affect safety on the lake.

Personally I don't care what size boat someone has but I do care about how fast they are going, esp when it's a busy weekend. You can't count on every boater being responsible, careful, and respectful.

Going to agree to disagree don’t want to revive this argument.


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[Major]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Going to agree to disagree don’t want to revive this argument.


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We have to be vigilant, though. Before you know it, there will be some other absurd law that does nothing it improve safety, but makes the liberal law makers feel good. We know that the speed limit does not effect safety one bit.

[MAXUM]

True but at the same time some jackass is going to buy a government surplus destroyer and want to put it in the lake.

There does come a point to where the size of a boat for even "the big lake" is a bit silly.

You'd think common sense would prevail here but sometimes it just doesn't. Not that I'm a big fan of new laws and restrictions but I can see one day this kind of thing happening.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Major

We have to be vigilant, though. Before you know it, there will be some other absurd law that does nothing it improve safety, but makes the liberal law makers feel good. We know that the speed limit does not effect safety one bit.

And how do we know this?

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by Biggd

And how do we know this?

Because history often repeats itself.

[Garcia]

Originally Posted by Major

We have to be vigilant, though. Before you know it, there will be some other absurd law that does nothing it improve safety, but makes the liberal law makers feel good. We know that the speed limit does not effect safety one bit.

Just curious, why do you think the speed limit does not affect safety one bit?

To stay on point with the thread, I just don't see the point of such a big boat on the lake - aside from the bragging rights one gets for having the biggest boat. To each their own...

[Descant]

Bragging rights. There is no safety issue here, and for those who want to rehash speed limits, there is a separate section of the Forum for that.
From a practical point, there are limited places to keep/dock a boat over 44' LOA. Even if you have your own dock that is capable, you won't find docking at most public docks, or in many marinas. Max at MVYC, for example is 44' although the directors can grant an exemption. Many marinas do not have lift capacity. DES and the towns won't let you build a big dock or boathouse anymore. The list goes on. It;'s too bad in a way. I'd rather see the Swallow in one boathouse than 6-8 boathouses/docks filling up the same area, or a valet operation in the same place. (I use valet, so I appreciate its value, but from a lake use/intensity perspective, one big boat is less intrusive.)

[fatlazyless]

Both the Doris E and Sophie C are about 70' long, have the biggest wakes, never catch any forum flak, so's maybe he should follow their lead and name it the Michael B?

And, everywhere it goes, announce their arrival by sounding out that old hit, 'Michael, Row the Boat Ashore, Hallelujah!' ..... or maybe just name it the 'Hallelujah' ..... a nice name for a 64' luxury liner .... there, it goes, the 'Hallelujah' ..... and be pumping out the volume.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Both the Doris E and Sophie C are about 70' long, have the biggest wakes, never catch any forum flak, so's maybe he should follow their lead and name it the Michael B?

And, everywhere it goes, announce their arrival by sounding out that old hit, 'Michael, Row the Boat Ashore, Hallelujah!' ..... or maybe just name it the 'Hallelujah' ..... a nice name for a 64' luxury liner .... there, it goes, the 'Hallelujah' ..... and be pumping out the volume.

Sure that would be really cool......................If the owner's name was Michael, which it is not. Or, if the boat was 64 feet which it is not. Thank you for the misinformation though!

[iw8surf]

Originally Posted by Garcia

Just curious, why do you think the speed limit does not affect safety one bit?

To stay on point with the thread, I just don't see the point of such a big boat on the lake - aside from the bragging rights one gets for having the biggest boat. To each their own...

I personally never thought it does either. Both on the lake or the highway. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Winnisquam not have a speed limit?

Id like to see the stats on the last 15 years. How many people have died on the lake versus how many died due to "specifically" excessive speed on the lake.

Wonder if this boat owner would let me surf behind that monster!

[livefreeordie]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Two different things, speed limit is about safety. I don't think the size of a boat will affect safety on the lake.

Personally I don't care what size boat someone has but I do care about how fast they are going, esp when it's a busy weekend. You can't count on every boater being responsible, careful, and respectful.

The speed limit has done nothing to improve safety, came right from MP about the last ten years of having the speed limit.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Your agenda is well known and your years of protests have been acknowledged. Instead of waking up every day and thinking of all the changes on the lake that displease you perhaps you could find a small lake with a 1920's feel that will be more to your liking. Life is too short to be as negative as you seem to be. Or, if you are really serious about your objection to larger boats on the lake, instead of being a keyboard warrior why not take some action? Start at the top!
Get into your Prius with the "Bernie Bros" bumper sticker on it and head over to the Weirs. When the families are boarding the Mount Washington for a day of enjoyment on the lake you could be strutting your stuff on the dock with a sign protesting "over sized boats". Anything else is just negative noise!

While I hope that Bernie is the nominee, and that everyone else drives a Prius, your characterization is 'way off.

My present view is of a small lake that has been "to my liking" since viewing it from the shoreline of Camp Wyanoke; unfortunately, it is attached to the larger lake beyond.

An even earlier view includes rowing near where Melvin Village Marina stands today.



See all the wakes? Me neither.

We were aghast when our neighbors moored a new 21' Thompson outboard next door. When they invited me (a teenager) to captain their boat to Wolfeboro via The Broads, I did so. Five minutes later, I received the trip's only instruction while in 25-feet of water: "Keep farther away from shore". I thought this was very "telling" of the owner and his new oversized boat. (At the time, there were no houses facing Rattlesnake Island).

"Visitors" today blast their way around Rattlesnake Island and from Meredith Bay to bulldoze their oversized boats into Winter Harbor. They'll soak docks, erode the shoreline, break mooring lines, and set small boaters' teeth on edge. Some come to Winter Harbor to rattle windows with their unnecessarily loud exhaust noise. (Note: fewer since S/L). Even the best-protected of shoreline properties now have boat lifts and breakwaters. One boatlift has stairs next to it, eliminating the boarding of a "bucking" boat.

Bought a raft? Better inspect your ground tackle after every weekend.

Seen all the floatplanes using the three designated landing areas in Winter Harbor? Me neither.

Even while in Winter Harbor' "protected waters", I have been thrown out of my boat three times!

The first time, it was from an overpowered outboard boat—hard chines, in what I thought was a gentle turn—totally my fault. The second time, I was thrown out backwards after slowing for a huge wake from a 28-foot cruiser—towing a water skier. Lastly, tossed from my 20-foot sailboat—trapped between the wakes of two cruisers entering Winter Harbor.

As for raising an already high lake with 55,000 pounds of displacement, that was really tongue-in-cheek. Since we know that wind can more greatly affect depth measurements between the distant "corners" of the lake—one boat or all the boats—aren't going to budge the meter much while measuring 600 billion gallons of water.

It's when they get underway that the metric changes. The rate at which a lake "dies" (eutrophication) increases with damaged shorelines.

For an indicator, look for algae.