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[Major]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

No other career makes half of its value when starting. For example, in the first decade of a teacher's career, she will be making around ~$20k less than a similarly educated professional. It's only after 15 or so years and advanced education that a teacher will make even close to other professionals. In some cases, 20 to 25 years.

So, take the model of a 401(k), where if you invest money now rather than starting in ten years, etc. The hardest part of this is that starting teachers suddenly have a life to build--moving out, starting a family, repayment of loans, etc.--which makes it doubly hard and often leads to teachers leaving the profession or never getting into it in the first place. (The same applies to people coming from industry, BTW. The percentage of people who stay in education after coming from the private sector is under 50% at my school)

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Just not true. Electrical engineers start today at $80,000. A senior project engineer makes about $150,000. My firm hires entry level attorneys at $135,000 per year. Of counsel (non-partner track) attorneys make $225,000. The challenges for teachers are no different than challenges faced in other professions. My two sons work very hard, one in sales and the other in finance. They make $45,000 and $57,000, respectively. They don’t have the luxury of working 8:00 am to 3:00 pm or having 12 weeks vacation. Nor do they have a pension. What you’re talking about may have been true 40 years ago but not now.


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[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Major

Just not true. Electrical engineers start today at $80,000. A senior project engineer makes about $150,000. My firm hires entry level attorneys at $135,000 per year. Of counsel (non-partner track) attorneys make $225,000. The challenges for teachers are no different than challenges faced in other professions. My two sons work very hard, one in sales and the other in finance. They make $45,000 and $57,000, respectively. They don’t have the luxury of working 8:00 am to 3:00 pm or having 12 weeks vacation. Nor do they have a pension. What you’re talking about may have been true 40 years ago but not now.


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You're comparing different jobs. I'm doing the same thing now as I was fifteen years ago. Also, in both your examples, the incomes are double at the beginning and triple+ at veteran status for similar/less educational requirements.

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[Bigstan]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

You're comparing different jobs. I'm doing the same thing now as I was fifteen years ago. Also, in both your examples, the incomes are double at the beginning and triple+ at veteran status for similar/less educational requirements.

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Right - different jobs. I have gone up 7-8x in earnings as a systems engineer over 20 years by furthering my skill sets, working 70+ hour weeks, no vacation, training on my own time and dime, etc. If you are doing the same thing after 15 years you're lucky to make twice what you started at, in the private sector you would be making about the same.

[secondcurve]

The Real Big Guy:

Typical response from an ardent supporter. What about the $50,000 she lent her campaign last month? Surely this money should have been used to clear her tax bill? Paying taxes just isn’t convienient for her. Do you really want someone who doesn’t pay their taxes making decisions about your taxes? God help the country with leaders such as her.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by secondcurve

The Real Big Guy:

Typical response from an ardent supporter. What about the $50,000 she lent her campaign last month? Surely this money should have been used to clear her tax bill? Paying taxes just isn’t convienient for her. Do you really want someone who doesn’t pay their taxes making decisions about your taxes? God help the country with leaders such as her.

If she's on a payment plan and is making the payments then she is paying her taxes.
I'm not an ardent supporter and I don't even follow Georgia politics.

[secondcurve]

Originally Posted by Biggd

If she's on a payment plan and is making the payments then she is paying her taxes.
I'm not an ardent supporter and I don't even follow Georgia politics.

I guess I’m old fashioned. I would have paid my past due taxes before even thinking about running for office. She has a Yale law degree and is a published author. I think she has enough smarts to figure out how to pay off $50,000 in past due taxes if she wanted to. She obviously was brought up differently than I was. Thank God she lost. Unfourtunately, she has no shame and refuses to concede.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by secondcurve

I guess I’m old fashioned. I would have paid my past due taxes before even thinking about running for office.

You wouldn't make a good politician, you're too honest. You probably don't lie everyday either..Nope, you would'nt fit into the current administration.

[kawishiwi]

Originally Posted by secondcurve

The Real Big Guy:

Typical response from an ardent supporter. What about the $50,000 she lent her campaign last month? Surely this money should have been used to clear her tax bill? Paying taxes just isn’t convienient for her. Do you really want someone who doesn’t pay their taxes making decisions about your taxes? God help the country with leaders such as her.

Or like Trump? Or did he pay his taxes? If so how much? I am totally with you, we should know every politicians complete tax record before we vote on them.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by kawishiwi

Or like Trump? Or did he pay his taxes? If so how much? I am totally with you, we should know every politicians complete tax record before we vote on them.

Speaking of taxes, where is the 10% middle class tax cut that we were promised a few days ago. Oh well, nobody seems to cares so why should I..I'm just a no good liberal.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Bigstan

Right - different jobs. I have gone up 7-8x in earnings as a systems engineer over 20 years by furthering my skill sets, working 70+ hour weeks, no vacation, training on my own time and dime, etc. If you are doing the same thing after 15 years you're lucky to make twice what you started at, in the private sector you would be making about the same.

I'm hoping to be as successful as you some day.

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[Rusty]

Originally Posted by Major

Electrical engineers start today at $80,000.

A senior project engineer makes about $150,000.

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Just curious as to where starting and senior engineers in any field make this kind of money.

Thanks

[Major]

Originally Posted by Rusty

Just curious as to where starting and senior engineers in any field make this kind of money.



Thanks

Raytheon and Schneider Electric.


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[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Major

Raytheon and Schneider Electric.


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Explains why a colleague with 4 years of teaching experience left for Raytheon!

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