Homeowner didn't like fisherman getting close to property

[ThePlut]

Of course he's in the right, he can fish wherever he wants.

But there is a pervasive issue these days with a lack of respect for other people and other people's property. I wonder, if he HAD bumped another boat, or snagged a line on a cover, or a prop, would this video still be posted? Would he have left a note and taken responsibility? Or would he have hoped no one saw and skedaddled?

I like to think it's the former, because I think people are basically good or want to be.

But if my boat were in there, I'd be afraid of the latter too...

Yup, the bad actors ruin it for everyone.

[Shrimpbrain]

Originally Posted by ThePlut

Of course he's in the right, he can fish wherever he wants.

But there is a PERSAUSIVE issue these days with a lack of respect for other people and other people's property. I WONDER, IF he HAD bumped another boat, OR snagged a line on a cover, or a prop, WOULD this video still be posted? WOULD HE have left a note and taken responsibility? OR would he have hoped no one saw and skedaddled?

I like to THINK it's the former, BECAUSE I THINK people are basically good or want to be.

But if my boat were in there, I'd be afraid of the latter too..

Yup, the bad actors ruin it for everyone.

Persuasive.. I Wonder... If He Had.. Or..... Is it possibe... Would This... Because I think.... I'd Be Afraid.... REALLY PEOPLE, seriously ???????? Maybe, If he did, What happens if? It's possible....It could happen....IF IF IF IF IF IF. Please state FACTS !

The Lake is OWNED by the State. PERIOD... He did have EVERY RIGHT in the world to fish there. Period... He was EXTREMELY POLITE and Knowledgeable of the rules of the STATE OF NH, obviously she wasn't. I actually know the guys and there is absolutely NO WAY (FACT) that he went in there looking for a confrontation. Just not going to happen. (FACT). She was TOTALLY WRONG and he was TOTALLY RIGHT AND LEGAL.

[rick35]

Originally Posted by Shrimpbrain

Persuasive.. I Wonder... If He Had.. Or..... Is it possibe... Would This... Because I think.... I'd Be Afraid.... REALLY PEOPLE, seriously ???????? Maybe, If he did, What happens if? It's possible....It could happen....IF IF IF IF IF IF. Please state FACTS !

The Lake is OWNED by the State. PERIOD... He did have EVERY RIGHT in the world to fish there. Period... He was EXTREMELY POLITE and Knowledgeable of the rules of the STATE OF NH, obviously she wasn't. I actually know the guys and there is absolutely NO WAY (FACT) that he went in there looking for a confrontation. Just not going to happen. (FACT). She was TOTALLY WRONG and he was TOTALLY RIGHT AND LEGAL.

Property owner? You can usually tell the ones who are are aren’t as they tend to be more militant about their rights.

[rick35]

I don’t think anyone will argue about a fisherman’s right to use the lake. I just don’t like it when he feels he needs to jam it down my throat.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by rick35

I don’t think anyone will argue about a fisherman’s right to use the lake. I just don’t like it when he feels he needs to jam it down my throat.

"Visitors" own the lake's waters.

This private beach is clearly marked by a sign "uninviting" visitors.

Not my $4½M property, but "visitors" to the short private beach within this tiny cove—adjacent to Johnson's Cove—feel entitled to wade ankle-deep there.

[The Real BigGuy]

Originally Posted by Shrimpbrain

I actually know the guys and there is absolutely NO WAY (FACT) that he went in there looking for a confrontation. Just not going to happen. (FACT).

No, actually both are only your opinions!



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[Descant]

I'd guess 99% of dock owners don't mind people fishing nearby. I expect that experience would lead fishermen to not anticipate confrontation. Fishing is very peaceful. Why break the mood with a lot of shouting?
In the meantime, I'd rather have people fishing 20 feet away than dropping anchor 200 feet away and cranking the tunes. Actually, for whatever reasons those who fish and anchor in our area are all pretty quiet.

[AC2717]

does this go for when I am walking around your car in a parking lot and hanging near it while I am on the phone?
to me is it is the same idea, someone telling you to get away from their car on a public street

[tis]

AC2717, hit the thanks button by mistake. I don't agree with you. It would be more like a car in your driveway.

I don't see why this guy couldn't just do as this lady asked and go on his way since she was worried he might hit her boat. I think he was just being stubborn.
The fishermen don't bother me at all, they usually throw out their lines and keep going. I do wish they wouldn't leave anything behind though. We just untangled a long fishing line hooked to a tree.

[AC2717]

Originally Posted by tis

AC2717, hit the thanks button by mistake. I don't agree with you. It would be more like a car in your driveway.

I don't see why this guy couldn't just do as this lady asked and go on his way since she was worried he might hit her boat. I think he was just being stubborn.
The fishermen don't bother me at all, they usually throw out their lines and keep going. I do wish they wouldn't leave anything behind though. We just untangled a long fishing line hooked to a tree.

it wouldn't your driveway is your private property, the water is public land

[MAXUM]

To me this is more about common courtesy than it is whether legal or not.

In a situation like that if somebody asked me to move on I would. That said many who own waterfront or are part of an association need to realize that they do not own the lake and cannot just cordon off whatever they deem appropriate to them for their own "personal and private" use.

I do think under the circumstances the fisherman was courteous in discussing this with the woman that was complaining. I've witnessed plenty of situations like that where one side or both get completely metal.

I would only say just because something may be legal to the letter of the law doesn't always mean it's appreciated and a little give and take goes a long way even if it means eating a little humble pie.

[kawishiwi]

...most are seeing. The woman was just looking after her boat. The fisherman seemed to be respecting her boat. While she mentioned that it was a 'private' marina she seemed ok with him fishing in there as long as he didnt bump her boat.
It was pretty bold to motor into a tight area like that. I know where that is and it "looks" private to me though its likely not.
For the non-fisherman a little info. That marina, with shallow protected water and all the 'cover' provided by the docks & boats makes that a tremendously attractive place to fish for Largemouth bass. Probably the single most attractive spot...for over a mile, or two, in any direction.

[Top-Water]

Originally Posted by kawishiwi

Largemouth bass. Probably the single most attractive spot...for over a mile, or two, in any direction.

100% correct, and that is why he is there.

[tis]

The water is public the docks are not. I guess it would be like sitting at the end of your driveway and blocking you from getting out for a few minutes just became one can. But I can see this discussion is going nowhere as usual. Some of us will think he should have just moved on-common courtesy, and others will think, by God he has a right to be there and should stand his ground!!!!

[TiltonBB]

So, for the sake of discussion: I see fisherman in boats in front of my house all the time and I am on a very open part of the lake. Sometimes they are so close it surprises me to look out the front windows and see that a boat is so close.

This has happened to me so here is the question: When they cast, and their line and lure gets caught on your dock or boat lines do you:

A. Let them come onto your property to retrieve it
B. Cut the line and tell them to move on. (option, thank them for your new lure)
C. Try to release their lure without damaging your property
D. You tell me!

[SAB1]

I think you will get varying answers to that question. If it were me I would just asoon like them to retrieve the lure. As mentioned above someone caught a tree and snapped off their line leaving it dangling. Hate to see wildlife get caught up in monofilament line. Often deadly to the animal.

[kawishiwi]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

So, for the sake of discussion: I see fisherman in boats in front of my house all the time and I am on a very open part of the lake. Sometimes they are so close it surprises me to look out the front windows and see that a boat is so close.

This has happened to me so here is the question: When they cast, and their line and lure gets caught on your dock or boat lines do you:

A. Let them come onto your property to retrieve it
B. Cut the line and tell them to move on. (option, thank them for your new lure)
C. Try to release their lure without damaging your property
D. You tell me!

If you saw a baseball come over your property line followed by a kid or a dad, do the same for the fisherman, as you would for the baseballers. Chuck it back, let 'em get it or add it to your collection of baseballs. If they damage something get compensation or report to the police.
Be who you would be most proud of.

[Top-Water]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

So, for the sake of discussion: I see fisherman in boats in front of my house all the time and I am on a very open part of the lake. Sometimes they are so close it surprises me to look out the front windows and see that a boat is so close.

This has happened to me so here is the question: When they cast, and their line and lure gets caught on your dock or boat lines do you:

A. Let them come onto your property to retrieve it
B. Cut the line and tell them to move on. (option, thank them for your new lure)
C. Try to release their lure without damaging your property
D. You tell me!

I chose option D: I would walk down to the dock and help them get the lure back, ask them how the fishing was and hopefully meet someone nice. From my experiences over many years on the lake if there is anything that I have learned is that folks are usually so thankful when you help them out in awkward situations like this. Even for the smallest things. For me life is to short to get pissy about stuff like this. And more often than not if you meet again under different circumstances you could and might become lifelong friendly acquaintances. God forbid maybe even close friends. But as a back up alternative option you can always tell them while your chatting that “you” and one of your friends seen a couple of *6* pound fish in the next cove down just yesterday. (Don’t say five pounder's, the five pound story is used so often they will know you are not telling the truth). This still leaves the possibilities of becoming friends at a later date, you just seen the fish you did not give any promises that they would catch them.



The first part of the story is true, for the second half let your conscience be your guide.

Parents insert photo of a really cute kid.
Gal’s insert photo of really handsome guy.

See you on the water tomorrow, but not on the docks I try to avoid these awkward situations.

[ConcernedAngler]

Originally Posted by tis

AC2717, hit the thanks button by mistake. I don't agree with you. It would be more like a car in your driveway.

I don't see why this guy couldn't just do as this lady asked and go on his way since she was worried he might hit her boat. I think he was just being stubborn.
The fishermen don't bother me at all, they usually throw out their lines and keep going. I do wish they wouldn't leave anything behind though. We just untangled a long fishing line hooked to a tree.

Because she said he was breaking the law and he wasn’t. A lot of the responses in favor of the woman seem to think she is fine with accusing him of breaking the law, when he didn’t. How would you react if you were accused of something you didn’t do??