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Old 02-26-2018, 06:10 AM   #1
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Default ..... paging Cousin Eddy?

...... what????? ...... no way .......did I ever, ever, ever say to add water into gasoline ......that is probably a good way to demolish a piston because the water will not vaporize/explode like gasoline ...... it had to be someone else who came up with that comment???

Probably, a 39' rv has a width of 8', since trucks are always 8' wide, so a 39' rv would be 8'x39' size, plus any slide-outs.

Using an old rv for a rental income unit is an interesting idea ...... when that thought hit me .....it was like a 150w light bulb lit up ....or something ..... channeling Cousin Eddie?
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Old 02-26-2018, 08:43 AM   #2
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Default Nope. Not 8 feet wide

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.Probably, a 39' rv has a width of 8', since trucks are always 8' wide, so a 39' rv would be 8'x39' size, plus any slide-outs.
No so. Trucks are most always 8'6" wide because that is the legal width limit without special permits. For shippers it is all about the maximum amount they can get into a trailer without exceeding the weight limit.

That is why trailerable boats are usually the same width (102 inches) because that is the maximum legal width without an over width permit. There are obvious exceptions such as go-fast or smaller boats but the vast majority of boats in the 20 to 26 foot range are 8'6"wide.
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Should of maybe worked in the new buy the dealer take it off your hands...
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Old 02-26-2018, 11:36 AM   #4
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Believe on a semi-tractor trailer rig, the tractor is 8' and the trailer is 8'6" wide, and like you say, the legal limit width for driving on a road is 8'6". Either way, an old rv, 8x39', or 8.5x39', could be big enough for an overnight rental.

Seems like the air-bnb overnight rentals market for tourists could create a market for old destination rv's that could be towed or trucked to their final resting spot in someone's Lake Winnipesaukee waterfront yard, near the main cottage, as a money making daily rental unit. Seems like a good fit ..... hook up the utilities .... spiff it up .... rent it out .... pay those prop taxes ON TIME! .... and say goodbye to 12% late fees from the town.
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Old 02-26-2018, 03:46 PM   #5
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Should of maybe worked in the new buy the dealer take it off your hands...
That's one of the options we're looking into.

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...... what????? ...... no way .......did I ever, ever, ever say to add water into gasoline ......that is probably a good way to demolish a piston because the water will not vaporize/explode like gasoline ...... it had to be someone else who came up with that comment???

Probably, a 39' rv has a width of 8', since trucks are always 8' wide, so a 39' rv would be 8'x39' size, plus any slide-outs.

Using an old rv for a rental income unit is an interesting idea ...... when that thought hit me .....it was like a 150w light bulb lit up ....or something ..... channeling Cousin Eddie?
Oh Less, don't make me go on a mission, maybe it was a ahem, late night post.

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Found it, lol, I remember one in a talk about superchargers too, was pretty cool going through some of those old threads:

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Old 03-08-2018, 05:16 AM   #7
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Fwiw... Water injection is a thing, but it is ***NOT*** done by adding water to the fuel tank.

Some background:

The higher the octane, the *less* volatile the fuel, and the more predictable the burn.

What you want to happen is for the piston to come up in the cylinder, the spark plug ignites the air/fuel mixture at just the right instant, and the resulting combustion forces the piston back down again.

What can happen is preignition, which is the mixture lighting off too soon, before the piston is at the top of the cylinder. That’s the ‘rocks in a coffee can’ sound that means you have too low octane fuel, too much compression, or the spark timing is too soon in the piston cycle. And/or you have too much heat, causing hotspots (carbon buildup or sharp edges) that set the mixture off before the spark plug does.

The trouble is...performance is a fine line. Higher compression ratios and earlier spark timing usually yield higher power. Too much and you get preignition and engine damage.

Higher octane fuels can withstand higher compression ratios (including supercharging) predictably. Predictable burns mean you can push the ignition timing earlier and closer to that hairy edge.

So...water injection...is done by spraying a tiny bit of water into the engine (typically into the area between the air filter and the carb) that does two things: it cools the air/fuel mixture to lower the temps and reduce the chance of hotspots unintentionally igniting the mixture early, plus it has the side effect of literally steam-cleaning the combustion chamber to remove carbon buildup.

Ultimately that allows the use of higher compression and/or earlier ignition timing with fuel that would otherwise have preignited.

This was low-bucked in the 70’s using an extra windshield washer pump when the late-60s cars with high compression couldn’t take the lower octane fuels. Big RV with a big engine going up a hill pinging like crazy? Hit the extra washer button for a bit of relief to make it to the top of the hill. It’s also used to push the hairy edge of performance that tiny but farther.
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Old 03-08-2018, 07:49 AM   #8
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....as I grow old and moldy ..... think I'll stick with foam noodles and paddle boards and stay away from gasoline engines ......
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