2.2 acre Big Island, Paugus Bay; proposed summer girl's camp

fatlazyless · 11-22-2017, 01:30 PM

As far as I found out, looking at all the Winnipesaukee islands, only Big Island and Christmas Island, both in Paugus Bay, Laconia have underground utility service with water, sewer, electricity, and fiber optic.

While Christmas Island, also or previously known as Plummer Island, is a bridged island with automobile use that is so close to the Laconia main land that it is almost on the main land, none of the larger bridged, automobile access islands, Black Cat, Long, or Governors have community water and sewer.

So, 2.2-acre Big Island and a 1950-constructed seasonal home were purchased in 2012 for $725,000 and supposedly about $two-mil has been spent, total, including the purchase price and water/sewer/electricity/fiber optic installation and legal/professional fees. So, is this the end for the proposed Camp 'Big Island', an island summer girl's camp plus conference center located on Paugus Bay, Lake Winnipesaukee in Laconia, NH?

So, what happens next ...... does it get sold directly to the developer of Christmas Island for similar townhouse development, or does it get listed in the local real estate market or what? Maybe a very nice single family, 2.2-acre island home is constructed that gets infrequent use by its' out-of-state owner ....... who knows? ... what the heck happens next?

PaugusBayFireFighter · 11-22-2017, 01:48 PM

He tried. I hope he builds as many houses as the zoning allows.

Broken Glass · 11-22-2017, 04:14 PM

The NIMBY crowd won, and the benevolent gentleman with youngsters in mind loses. A real shame. What's with people anyway????

joey2665 · 11-22-2017, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Broken Glass

The NIMBY crowd won, and the benevolent gentleman with youngsters in mind loses. A real shame. What's with people anyway????

They think the island is going to stay the way it is now but we all know change is evident he’s not going to let his investment go down the toilet and the houses will be built

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Outdoorsman · 11-22-2017, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

As far as I found out, looking at all the Winnipesaukee islands, only Big Island and Christmas Island, both in Paugus Bay, Laconia have underground utility service with water, sewer, electricity, and fiber optic.

While Christmas Island, also or previously known as Plummer Island, is a bridged island with automobile use that is so close to the Laconia main land that it is almost on the main land, none of the larger bridged, automobile access islands, Black Cat, Long, or Governors have community water and sewer.

So, 2.2-acre Big Island and a 1950-constructed seasonal home were purchased in 2012 for $725,000 and supposedly about $two-mil has been spent, total, including the purchase price and water/sewer/electricity/fiber optic installation and legal/professional fees. So, is this the end for the proposed Camp 'Big Island', an island summer girl's camp plus conference center located on Paugus Bay, Lake Winnipesaukee in Laconia, NH?

So, what happens next ...... does it get sold directly to the developer of Christmas Island for similar townhouse development, or does it get listed in the local real estate market or what? Maybe a very nice single family, 2.2-acre island home is constructed that gets infrequent use by its' out-of-state owner ....... who knows? ... what the heck happens next?

Sometimes I wonder who is writing these relevant posts.

fatlazyless · 11-22-2017, 07:58 PM

With 136-acres, Scott Everett should definitely take a good, long look at Timber Island in Gilford as a potential home to a summer camp. It got sold in about 2001 for about 1.25-million dollars, has just three seasonal camps with two acres each, and 130-acres of old growth forest, conservation easement land.

In about 2001, the State of New Hampshire had the first opportunity to purchase it and said no thanks. Like, why O why would the State of NH want to purchase a 136-acre, totally unoccupied and totally forested island, at an extremely low price, centrally located in Lake Winnipesaukee? To make it a state park, or a state forest, or a youth summer camp .....or, some combination of all three ..... that's why.

Timber Island is a very attractive spot with a number of natural sandy beaches, and has many, many 'no trespassing-keep out-this means you!' signs posted, all 'round the island. It pays almost no property taxes, has no occupants save for the three seasonal camps, gets no use, does nothing, and serves basically no purpose other than being a vacant primeval, old growth forest type of an island that is super nice to look at, or for anchoring your boat up close, off shore .... without going ashore.

It is sort of like the 'Area 51' of Lake Winnipesaukee.

SAMIAM · 11-23-2017, 08:20 AM

The girls camp would have been tax free because it would be serving the "underprivileged"
Five million $ homes would provide well over 100K in taxes to the city of Laconia with no draw on services...schools,social services,fire,police,snow plowing etc.
No wonder they torched the idea.

11-22-2017, 01:30 PM	#1
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,174 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 310 Thanked 1,103 Times in 812 Posts	As far as I found out, looking at all the Winnipesaukee islands, only Big Island and Christmas Island, both in Paugus Bay, Laconia have underground utility service with water, sewer, electricity, and fiber optic. While Christmas Island, also or previously known as Plummer Island, is a bridged island with automobile use that is so close to the Laconia main land that it is almost on the main land, none of the larger bridged, automobile access islands, Black Cat, Long, or Governors have community water and sewer. So, 2.2-acre Big Island and a 1950-constructed seasonal home were purchased in 2012 for $725,000 and supposedly about $two-mil has been spent, total, including the purchase price and water/sewer/electricity/fiber optic installation and legal/professional fees. So, is this the end for the proposed Camp 'Big Island', an island summer girl's camp plus conference center located on Paugus Bay, Lake Winnipesaukee in Laconia, NH? So, what happens next ...... does it get sold directly to the developer of Christmas Island for similar townhouse development, or does it get listed in the local real estate market or what? Maybe a very nice single family, 2.2-acre island home is constructed that gets infrequent use by its' out-of-state owner ....... who knows? ... what the heck happens next? __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store! Last edited by fatlazyless; 11-22-2017 at 04:01 PM.

11-22-2017, 04:14 PM	#3
Broken Glass Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Atkinson,NH/Rattlesnake Island Posts: 166 Thanks: 337 Thanked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Nimby The NIMBY crowd won, and the benevolent gentleman with youngsters in mind loses. A real shame. What's with people anyway????

11-22-2017, 07:58 PM	#6
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,174 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 310 Thanked 1,103 Times in 812 Posts	...... Timber Island Summer Camp, ages 8-15 With 136-acres, Scott Everett should definitely take a good, long look at Timber Island in Gilford as a potential home to a summer camp. It got sold in about 2001 for about 1.25-million dollars, has just three seasonal camps with two acres each, and 130-acres of old growth forest, conservation easement land. In about 2001, the State of New Hampshire had the first opportunity to purchase it and said no thanks. Like, why O why would the State of NH want to purchase a 136-acre, totally unoccupied and totally forested island, at an extremely low price, centrally located in Lake Winnipesaukee? To make it a state park, or a state forest, or a youth summer camp .....or, some combination of all three ..... that's why. Timber Island is a very attractive spot with a number of natural sandy beaches, and has many, many 'no trespassing-keep out-this means you!' signs posted, all 'round the island. It pays almost no property taxes, has no occupants save for the three seasonal camps, gets no use, does nothing, and serves basically no purpose other than being a vacant primeval, old growth forest type of an island that is super nice to look at, or for anchoring your boat up close, off shore .... without going ashore. It is sort of like the 'Area 51' of Lake Winnipesaukee. __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!

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11-22-2017, 01:48 PM	#2
PaugusBayFireFighter Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 837 Thanks: 361 Thanked 674 Times in 264 Posts	He tried. I hope he builds as many houses as the zoning allows.

11-23-2017, 08:20 AM	#7
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,937 Thanks: 349 Thanked 1,708 Times in 602 Posts	The girls camp would have been tax free because it would be serving the "underprivileged" Five million $ homes would provide well over 100K in taxes to the city of Laconia with no draw on services...schools,social services,fire,police,snow plowing etc. No wonder they torched the idea.