Moultonborough Prop tax

[Dickie B from HB]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

Went UP...Again. I'm not sure why.

The costs of operating the town didn't go up because the value of the town's properties went up.

New Hampshire needs Prop 13. It has done wonders in California...for the people...not for the Government. There is a difference.

If it wasn't for prop 13 I would have been homeless 40 years ago.

[garysanfran]

Originally Posted by Dickie B from HB

If it wasn't for prop 13 I would have been homeless 40 years ago.

Unfortunately, most of the members on the "Forum" can't vote! Most of the "expensive" homes are owned by non-voters. We are governed with no representation.

[Doobs41378]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

Unfortunately, most of the members on the "Forum" can't vote! Most of the "expensive" homes are owned by non-voters. We are governed with no representation.

I still think Moultonborough has some of the lowest taxes in the state. Imagine what you’d be in Gilford!!!!!!


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[sky's]

Just need to make sure all the "valuable" water front is occupied. I love seeing people over a million for water front. I say to myself thanks for paying my property tax.

[tis]

I know I have said it before but I wonder how high the property taxes can keep going before people finally say it isn't worth it to pay that much in taxes for a few months a year. Do you think there is a point or will people always keep paying more. Do you think the selectmen ever think about that when they keep spending and spending?

[garysanfran]

Originally Posted by tis

I know I have said it before but I wonder how high the property taxes can keep going before people finally say it isn't worth it to pay that much in taxes for a few months a year. Do you think there is a point or will people always keep paying more. Do you think the selectmen ever think about that when they keep spending and spending?

Because they could no longer afford the prop tax. And, for many of these people, it was their primary home. A fixed income is just that. An ever increasing prop tax eats that up quite quickly.

In San Francisco, I pay 1/4 of the tax I pay in Meredith on a prop worth 3-4 times as much. In New Hampshire...No public road, not even paved, so it doesn't get plowed in winter. No public water nor sewer.

So, does CA suffer for the lack of income from prop taxes dues to Prop13?...Nope, they continue to waste billions catering to ?

And, although I can vote in CA, that's equivalent to pissing into the ocean to watch the water level rise.

As for the selectmen giving a damn? Tax dollars to them is equivalent of an addiction to opiods!

Always, vote against opiod addiction!

[ITD]

Originally Posted by sky's

Just need to make sure all the "valuable" water front is occupied. I love seeing people over a million for water front. I say to myself thanks for paying my property tax.

You are welcome.

[C-Bass]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

Unfortunately, most of the members on the "Forum" can't vote! Most of the "expensive" homes are owned by non-voters. We are governed with no representation.

Yeah, doesn't seen right. My employer is MA based and I drive down probably 3 days out of the week to the office, work from home the rest of the time, and I still get burned with MA income tax and no right to vote in MA politics.
I can recall a few hundred years ago, a few guys by the name of Adams/Hancock, as well as many more; sacrificed quite a bit so people had fairness and representation in government.

[RUGMAN]

DidI read that in the new tax plan, they plan to limit the real estate tax deduction on your income tax return to $10,000.00

[Woody38]

California Prop 13 did wonders for a select few property owners. A real headache for others. When we bought our house in California we had to make up for property tax shortfall (not sure what else to call it). The amount was not terrible since the previous owner had been hit with an increase also. The little old lady across the street having lived in that house for decades paid $900 yearly thanks to prop 13. We paid $9,000 the first year and paid a sum to make up for whatever should have been paid the year we bought. My sister and her husband pay around $1,200 to $1,300 on their million dollar + house. Also they could sell that house and buy another house or condo and take the tax with them. By the way my B-I-L thought that his children having to pay higher taxes was their problem. Great perk for some elderly, not us. So it amounts to those new buyers paying exorbitant property taxes. Why should not all property owners share in the burden. They don't require any less city service than we do.
All in all the prop 13 sucks.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by Woody38

Why should not all property owners share in the burden. They don't require any less city service than we do.
All in all the prop 13 sucks.

That is not the way the tax system is set up. If you were taxed based upon what services you use it would be about the opposite of what it is now. They would add taxes for each child instead of allowing a deduction. It would make the system unworkable since the bulk of many budgets are for the schools. If only the people with children in the school system paid taxes for that it would turn the system upside down.

One of the few taxes that have been based on actual use is the gas tax or "road use tax". However, the increasing use of hybrid vehicles is skewing that too. Should there be a "Prius" tax?

No matter what the system is some group will find it unfair.

[Jersey Bob]

Originally Posted by RUGMAN

DidI read that in the new tax plan, they plan to limit the real estate tax deduction on your income tax return to $10,000.00

That's the house plan, the Senate plan is to not allow any deduction for property tax.

[fatlazyless]

Moultonborough has the best tennis court venue around, with 4 two-tone, light green, dark green courts placed side by side, making it a big four court space with a standard chain link fence all around. Plus, Moultonborough hires www.vttennis.com to redo the rubberized asphalt court surface on a regular rotational basis, doing one or two courts every year.

Overall, the Moultonborough recreation area is extremely scenic, and includes a baseball/softball field next to the tennis courts that is currently having the entire outfield replaced with new turf or something using a large Caterpillar bulldozer.

Ashland: two outdoor courts; Center Harbor: two outdoor courts, Meredith: six outdoor courts, two with night lights; Laconia: maybe four and two outdoor courts in two locations, Moultonborough: four tennis courts with two pickle-ball courts lined dark red within the last tennis court. All these court facilities are all very nice in their own way, and it just seems to me that the Moultonborough facility is just a little bit nicer partly because it is very scenic.

All these different public tennis court venues are free to use by anyone, first come-first serve, for playing tennis.

What M-boro really really needs is a 15-million dollar athletic center, 5-million/venue, that is home to indoor tennis, indoor swim pool, and indoor ice arena ... all totally heated and air conditioned for year 'round use ... located on the existing seasonal hockey rink area plus the woods.

Thank-you very much, www.moultonboroughnh.gov and all you happy M-boro property tax payers ...... so very happy, happy, happy ... thanks a million!!

[ITD]

Fat's a trolling, a trolling he will go.

[garysanfran]

California has a lot of revenue producers not found in NH. However, the amount I save in prop. tax under Prop.13 is about $29,000 per year. That covers a lot of the increase fees I pay other than prop. tax.

We also have expenses not found in NH...Lots, LOTS of illegal immigrants. Tons...TONS of homeless (everyday San Fran sends out crews to clean the encampments...maid service. I clean my own home), multi-billion dollar trains that go from nowhere to nowhere.

Also, because real estate is so expensive here....013% of $2,000,000 = $26,000. Still a good chunk of change. WHAT! Two Million Dollars? The honest truth here, is you can't get a habitable place for much less.

Please don't get me wrong, I'd prefer living in NH, but growing up back there, I find the winters are a bit harsh.