2.2 acre Big Island, Paugus Bay; proposed summer girl's camp

MAXUM · 10-19-2017, 10:07 AM

Since part of the proposal is to "pipe in" utilities to the island I have to believe that would include sewer/water etc.. as 2.2 acres does not seem like sufficient enough space to install private utilities capable of handling the load of a conference center and or girls camp. As is to there is not going to be a lot of room to work with and it would be even more complicated if you consider a well and septic and the associated setback requirements into the mix.

fatlazyless · 10-19-2017, 11:47 AM

... some more info .... a special exception, development report, September 22, 2017, application with drawings, maps, photos, and details ..... a totally super-duper plan...... JUST APPROVE IT ........ for the 'BIG ISLAND CAMP', or some such summer camp name such as 'CAMP LACONIA' as yet to be determined and named appropriately by the producer/director of this island project!

http://www.laconianh.gov/AgendaCente...31?fileID=1589

Apparently, the utility lines and pipes; water, sewer and electricity were installed underground, under the lake, using a drilling process called 'directional boring' ... reference: a NH public utilities commission pdf, Feb 13, 2015, Big Island utilities installation application hooking up with Laconia city water and city sewer and local electric.

With "piping laid under the lake", I don't know, but maybe this makes Big Island the only Winnipesaukee island where flushing the toilet travels the septic waste all the way, off island, to the waste water treatment plant, wherever that is. Sort of gives new meaning to that old camp message carved onto many a camp bathroom wall that goes; "Flush twice, it's a long way to the kitchen." On Big Island, they can honestly say: "Flush twice, it's a long way to the waste water treatment plant."

Have to wonder if Big Island was also hooked up to cable-tv with high speed internet and an olde fashioned telephone land line?

You know what's a lot of fun ....having an olde fashioned, crank-up telephone, internal camp phone system, with old working phones that pre-date the rotary dial telephone, where you get to count the number of crank turns .... could be a very nice touch for an island summer camp, hidden away on beautiful Lake Winnipesaukee ...... and could go something like this ....... "four ringie-dingies = waterfront, three ringie-dingies = arts & crafts, two ringie-dingies = dining room/kitchen, and one ringie-dingie = office"...... hellooooooooo!

Do not see a tennis court in the island layout plan ..... but, maybe an outdoor pickle-ball court, which is one third the size of a tennis court ....could be a go? Plus, pickle-ball is much easier to quickly pickle up than tennis for the first time player.

"If this proposal doesn't move forward, as many as seven homes could be on the island under existing zoning." ....and, permanent water, sewer, and electricity seems like a game changer.... will the Laconia Fire Dept want Big Island to have a fire hydrant?

Orion · 10-20-2017, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MAXUM

Since part of the proposal is to "pipe in" utilities to the island I have to believe that would include sewer/water etc.. as 2.2 acres does not seem like sufficient enough space to install private utilities capable of handling the load of a conference center and or girls camp. As is to there is not going to be a lot of room to work with and it would be even more complicated if you consider a well and septic and the associated setback requirements into the mix.

Running all utilities on/off island certainly solves the problem. That said, seems like a wonderful project for the girls and my hat's off to the owner/developer willing to do such.

Descant · 10-20-2017, 04:09 PM

I'm amazed that they could get permits and run all the pipes and cables to Big Islands and nobody posted here "Guess what's happening at Big Island". The Forum watchdogs have been asleep, it would seem.

Outdoorsman · 10-20-2017, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Descant

I'm amazed that they could get permits and run all the pipes and cables to Big Islands and nobody posted here "Guess what's happening at Big Island". The Forum watchdogs have been asleep, it would seem.

Well it's not like they want to put in a bike path/walking trail on state owned property. THAT would be outrageous.

10-19-2017, 11:47 AM	#2
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,174 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 310 Thanked 1,103 Times in 812 Posts	... some more info .... a special exception, development report, September 22, 2017, application with drawings, maps, photos, and details ..... a totally super-duper plan...... JUST APPROVE IT ........ for the 'BIG ISLAND CAMP', or some such summer camp name such as 'CAMP LACONIA' as yet to be determined and named appropriately by the producer/director of this island project! http://www.laconianh.gov/AgendaCente...31?fileID=1589 Apparently, the utility lines and pipes; water, sewer and electricity were installed underground, under the lake, using a drilling process called 'directional boring' ... reference: a NH public utilities commission pdf, Feb 13, 2015, Big Island utilities installation application hooking up with Laconia city water and city sewer and local electric. With "piping laid under the lake", I don't know, but maybe this makes Big Island the only Winnipesaukee island where flushing the toilet travels the septic waste all the way, off island, to the waste water treatment plant, wherever that is. Sort of gives new meaning to that old camp message carved onto many a camp bathroom wall that goes; "Flush twice, it's a long way to the kitchen." On Big Island, they can honestly say: "Flush twice, it's a long way to the waste water treatment plant." Have to wonder if Big Island was also hooked up to cable-tv with high speed internet and an olde fashioned telephone land line? You know what's a lot of fun ....having an olde fashioned, crank-up telephone, internal camp phone system, with old working phones that pre-date the rotary dial telephone, where you get to count the number of crank turns .... could be a very nice touch for an island summer camp, hidden away on beautiful Lake Winnipesaukee ...... and could go something like this ....... "four ringie-dingies = waterfront, three ringie-dingies = arts & crafts, two ringie-dingies = dining room/kitchen, and one ringie-dingie = office"...... hellooooooooo! Do not see a tennis court in the island layout plan ..... but, maybe an outdoor pickle-ball court, which is one third the size of a tennis court ....could be a go? Plus, pickle-ball is much easier to quickly pickle up than tennis for the first time player. "If this proposal doesn't move forward, as many as seven homes could be on the island under existing zoning." ....and, permanent water, sewer, and electricity seems like a game changer.... will the Laconia Fire Dept want Big Island to have a fire hydrant? __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store! Last edited by fatlazyless; 10-27-2017 at 05:45 AM.

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Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,598 Thanks: 1,418 Thanked 1,705 Times in 1,109 Posts	Simply amazing I'm amazed that they could get permits and run all the pipes and cables to Big Islands and nobody posted here "Guess what's happening at Big Island". The Forum watchdogs have been asleep, it would seem.

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10-19-2017, 10:07 AM	#1
MAXUM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kuna ID Posts: 2,755 Thanks: 244 Thanked 1,942 Times in 802 Posts	Since part of the proposal is to "pipe in" utilities to the island I have to believe that would include sewer/water etc.. as 2.2 acres does not seem like sufficient enough space to install private utilities capable of handling the load of a conference center and or girls camp. As is to there is not going to be a lot of room to work with and it would be even more complicated if you consider a well and septic and the associated setback requirements into the mix.