Swimming

[ApS]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

All you have to do is stay away from the crowds of people swimming like Weirs beach, Ellacoya State Park, etc, etc. Its the people that are dirty not the water! Dan

I'm not so sure: people aren't at the beach every day.

As mentioned here, a DNA study would be "too costly".

I'm suggesting that a "presumptive DNA test" be made to keep costs down.

WMUR shows a photo-link to that shoreline that might disclose the nature of all that mischief!

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[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by ApS

I'm not so sure: people aren't at the beach every day.

As mentioned here, a DNA study would be "too costly".

I'm suggesting that a "presumptive DNA test" be made to keep costs down.

WMUR shows a photo-link to that shoreline that might disclose the nature of all that mischief!

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99% of the beach closings on winni are do to "fecal bacteria" only where people swim. Samples taken elsewhere on the lake are perfectly clear... What does that tell you?....

http://www4.des.state.nh.us/WaterShe...BeachMaps.aspx

[tis]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

99% of the beach closings on winni are do to "fecal bacteria" only where people swim. Samples taken elsewhere on the lake are perfectly clear... What does that tell you?....

I don't know. Could it tell you they only test the beaches where a lot of people swim?

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by tis

I don't know. Could it tell you they only test the beaches where a lot of people swim?

Tis;

Water samples are drawn and tested in many different areas of the lake, not to mention the many islanders that monitor and test their water quality once or twice per season. I don't know of anyone who has had a "fecal bacteria" test sample return...

Dan

[ApS]

Originally Posted by tis

I don't know. Could it tell you they only test the beaches where a lot of people swim?

Private beaches frequented by waterfowl would likely test positive for fecal bacteria.

Fecal bacteria is deposited from every living thing, including Geese and other waterfowl. Seagulls scrounge through litter at beaches and, like Mallards, "dabble" surface waters for edibles—perhaps mostly floating insects.

Cormorants and Loons leave an impressive "cloud" when they dive or take to the air.

As a likely contributor to fecal bacteria counts, should resources be expended to reduce waterfowl from visiting public beaches? Only a presumptive test for waterfowl DNA would determine some resolution.

NHDES has, however, "covered their bases" in their announcements:

[Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

99% of the beach closings on winni are do to "fecal bacteria" only where people swim. Samples taken elsewhere on the lake are perfectly clear... What does that tell you?....

http://www4.des.state.nh.us/WaterShe...BeachMaps.aspx

Well, beaches ARE where people swim so your point of 99% being beaches where people swim makes sense.

To your point though, I would suggest that it is these same beaches where you will find that most of the offenders (ducks) are being fed by the beach-goers that is the issue. These same duck/geese or other animal will continue to return if their food supply is so plentiful

I sincerely doubt that it is people depositing feces (read pooping, as urine is not fecal matter) in the water that is causing the issue.

If 99% of these beaches are closed for human fecal matter, that is a new topic that need serious attention

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

Well, beaches ARE where people swim so your point of 99% being beaches where people swim makes sense.

To your point though, I would suggest that it is these same beaches where you will find that most of the offenders (ducks) are being fed by the beach-goers that is the issue. These same duck/geese or other animal will continue to return if their food supply is so plentiful

I sincerely doubt that it is people depositing feces (read pooping, as urine is not fecal matter) in the water that is causing the issue.

If 99% of these beaches are closed for human fecal matter, that is a new topic that need serious attention

While animal waste is a contributing factor one of the other biggest factors is young children in the water with dirty diapers or no diapers at all. I have seen it many times at Ellacoya State Park and it's disgusting. From the DES site....

"causes of high fecal bacteria levels are failing septic systems, animal waste on a beach or in the water (typically from birds), leaking baby diapers, and individuals swimming during an illness."

I honestly don't think ducks being fed by beach goers is the issue at public beaches.....just my thoughts however.

Dan

[SIKSUKR]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

individuals swimming during an illness."

Dan

Wait,what does this mean?

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Wait,what does this mean?

Sik;

I said the same thing when I read that!!

Think I'll stick to swimming away from the masses!!

Dan