New boat on the lake

[BroadHopper]

The fact everyone is jealous because they have not is the reason behind the SL law. People are jealous of the GFBL boats of a decade ago. I remember the same folks also want HP and size restrictions of recreational boats. Their theme is 'On Golden Pond' attitude and they are definitely on the wrong lake!

1200 HP will definitely stir the hornet nest once more. Soon you they will ask for HP legislation. And I don't want to go there! I spent countless hours and dollars trying to fight for boaters rights, yet these group of Winni folks went through all kinds of political tactics to get the SL RSA. And they will do it again.

As I quote the SL sponsor: "Sea Rays belong on the seas, .....................".

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

The fact everyone is jealous because they have not is the reason behind the SL law. People are jealous of the GFBL boats of a decade ago. I remember the same folks also want HP and size restrictions of recreational boats. Their theme is 'On Golden Pond' attitude and they are definitely on the wrong lake!

1200 HP will definitely stir the hornet nest once more. Soon you they will ask for HP legislation. And I don't want to go there! I spent countless hours and dollars trying to fight for boaters rights, yet these group of Winni folks went through all kinds of political tactics to get the SL RSA. And they will do it again.

As I quote the SL sponsor: "Sea Rays belong on the seas, .....................".

Check your math...I see 1600 horses!

[New Hampshire Lake Man]

That boat is dumb. Quad engines? On an inland lake with 263 islands, limited open water, and a speed limit? It belongs in Miami.

As far as anyone being jealous, I think the operators of boats like these are usually the jealous ones - jealous that others don't have to ply the glacial waters of Winnipesaukee with 1600 HP to prove their manhood.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by New Hampshire Lake Man

That boat is dumb. Quad engines? On an inland lake with 365 islands, limited open water, and a speed limit? It belongs in Miami.

As far as anyone being jealous, I think the operators of boats like these are usually the jealous ones - jealous that others don't have to ply the glacial waters of Winnipesaukee with 1600 HP to prove their manhood.

Comments like this are what is wrong with society today. Slam the owner of this boat without even knowing them. Very discouraging.

[New Hampshire Lake Man]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Comments like this are what is wrong with society today. Slam the owner of this boat without even knowing them. Very discouraging.

Simply responding to someone else's accusation (that those of us who oppose 1600 HP boats on Winnipesaukee are somehow "jealous"). I can't let such a ridiculous comment go unchallenged. The only thing I'm jealous of is other lakes that have figured out how to maintain the peace and tranquility of God's creation while still enabling the broader community to enjoy access to the water.

[Tyler]

New Hampshire Lake Man posted "jealous that others don't have to ply the glacial waters of Winnipesaukee with 1600 HP to prove their manhood."


I only have a problem with that comment from you. "Prove their manhood", come on man grow up. Simply state that you do not think this type of boat belongs on the lake and not take a cheap shot at the owner.

[camp guy]

Thank goodness this new boat is on the Lake, right or wrong, 'cause if it wasn't here, what would we have to talk about.??

[ursa minor]

In reply to APS: we had nearly record low water levels last year when you filled that bottle on the right. Low rainfall = minimal runoff into the lake = really clear water. We've had a fair amount of rain this year and the lake is at or very nearly full. I'll take a little discoloration in the lake for regular rainfall.

I've seen the boat that's the subject of this thread. It's WAY above my pay grade and not my personal cup of Joe but it was wicked quiet going by our place. To each their own, I'll admit I'd like a ride!

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Comments like this are what is wrong with society today. Slam the owner of this boat without even knowing them. Very discouraging.

It's no different than you slamming the posters on here that are making comments against the need for a 1600HP boat on the lake.

[Woodsy]

Wow.... gotta love all of the negativity!

So what if somebody has 1600Hp of eggbeaters hanging off the back of his boat? Its not your business! If he can afford the boat/gas/transport etc... good for him!

Lets start slamming all of the big lakefront homeowners too.... I mean why would you ever need a house like that? Cheers to those who can afford those houses!

I saw this boat running during the Easter Seals Poker Run... probably the quietest boat in the crowd. Not to mention it wasn't remotely the fastest!

Its AWESOME to see boats like this coming back to Lake Winni!

Woodsy

[New Hampshire Lake Man]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Wow.... gotta love all of the negativity!
Lets start slamming all of the big lakefront homeowners too.... I mean why would you ever need a house like that? Cheers to those who can afford those houses!

Many Winnipesaukee houses are completely ostentatious. Rather than trying to erect something in harmony with the environment and preserve the serene natural beauty of Winni by building something a bit set back, painting it green or brown, and keeping some tree coverage, today it is fashionable to clear cut the trees, build enormous monuments to ourselves, and paint them white or light gray as if to say "Look what I can do!" It is the New Money ethos.

But, to take your analogy a bit further, if Jeff Bezos, or worse some corporation, wanted to spend his fortune by buying ALL the property on Winnipesaukee, demolishing all the homes and businesses, and preserving Winni for his own personal enjoyment do you think something should prevent him from doing so?

[Woodsy]

Its YOUR opinion that the lake houses are too ostentatious and not in harmony. If you want a quieter, more restrictive lake go to Squam or one of the less developed lakes.

Lake Winni has a long storied history of large houses, speedboats and big money. The "barn door" has been open on Lake Winni far too long to get the horses back into the barn.

There have been numerous opportunities for the State of NH/lakeside towns to buy up some lakefront/island property and preserve it.... yet no real effort was made. The lake adds too much money to the economy. So if Bezos were to swoop in and try to buy it all up... the State would block the deal. Too much tax $$$ would be lost, not to mention the economic devastation to the area.

The reality is.... that except for island dwellers, nobody NEEDS a boat. They are a luxury item.... So just like a luxury car... there going to be Ferraris, and Lamborghinis driving around with the Chevy's & Fords...

Woodsy

[New Hampshire Lake Man]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Its YOUR opinion that the lake houses are too ostentatious and not in harmony. If you want a quieter, more restrictive lake go to Squam or one of the less developed lakes.

Lake Winni has a long storied history of large houses, speedboats and big money. The "barn door" has been open on Lake Winni far too long to get the horses back into the barn.

There have been numerous opportunities for the State of NH/lakeside towns to buy up some lakefront/island property and preserve it.... yet no real effort was made. The lake adds too much money to the economy. So if Bezos were to swoop in and try to buy it all up... the State would block the deal. Too much tax $$$ would be lost, not to mention the economic devastation to the area.

The reality is.... that except for island dwellers, nobody NEEDS a boat. They are a luxury item.... So just like a luxury car... there going to be Ferraris, and Lamborghinis driving around with the Chevy's & Fords...

Woodsy

1) Yes, my opinion. I wrote it.
2) I do go to a different lake. My roots are at Winni but I left years ago to get away from the ocean-going vessels and GFBL ridiculousness. But I still love Winni and hold out hope for her future.
3) My question was a philosophical one, not a practical one. I'm curious to know if you think there should be any limits to what people can do on the lake. Philosophically speaking, do you have an objection to extraordinary wealth being used to purchase ALL property, close docks, marinas, etc? SHOULD Bezos be allowed to do that if he chose to?
4) The analogy of luxury cars is problematic because cars are the same size. A better analogy would be allowing monster trucks to drive on 93 at 70 miles an hour. Or, in some cases, a Boeing 787.

[Woodsy]

Like I said.... the State left the Barn door open on Lake Winni along time ago! You cannot re-write history...

The boat in question here is definitely not loud, and I don't think it is very fast... its just big and IMHO pretty.

I have no problem if Bezos or anyone with enough $$$ buys up the lake as long as he/they also pay the money lost from his purchase into the economy annually as well. So all of the people who make their living "on the lake" are not affected. The best part of that would be, despite owning all of the property, the public still would have access.... so all of those boats that you seem to despise would still be on the lake!

Your car analogy is the flawed analogy.... we already have huge 70,000lb trucks driving 70+ MPH on our highways right next to a little 12' long 3500lb Prius! Yet where is the outrage? That poor Prius driver is in grave danger....

Woodsy

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by Biggd

It's no different than you slamming the posters on here that are making comments against the need for a 1600HP boat on the lake.

My posts are VERY different. I am not slamming anyone posting that suggest there is not a need for a 1600 hp boat on this lake. My issue is with those who suggest that the OWNER of this and other similar boats are personally attacked by some including yourself. No need to slam the owner, if you do not like this type of boat simply state that and do not slam the owner, pretty simple, hope you can comprehend that.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Tyler

My posts are VERY different. I am not slamming anyone posting that suggest there is not a need for a 1600 hp boat on this lake. My issue is with those who suggest that the OWNER of this and other similar boats are personally attacked by some including yourself. No need to slam the owner, if you do not like this type of boat simply state that and do not slam the owner, pretty simple, hope you can comprehend that.

You're taking this quite personally so I know which side of the fence your on. To each his own. Thankfully I'm not on Winni, I'm on Waukewan, so I don't have to deal with those issues! Occasionally I will put my boat in Winni during the week when it's not so crazy and dangerous. It's not a safe environment on summer weekends anymore, IMO.

[New Hampshire Lake Man]

Woodsy- I admire your consistency. You have no problem with an individual closing out 95% of access to the lake. I don't agree with you but appreciate the consistent application of your philosophy.

[Woodsy]

I didn't say I would be happy about it.... But your question was philosophical... it would NEVER happen.

But the real issue is personal rights vs. public rights. Hence my reference to the horse being already out of the barn. IMHO, the lake has too few/little public access points. For example... Laconia does not have a public boat launch, and the only decent state owned launch is in Alton Bay with limited parking.

I also think this big boat ($$$$) vs little boat ($) argument is way overblown. If someone can afford a big $$$ boat good for them. If all someone can afford is a small $ boat... good for them too! Boats are luxury items... very few people NEED a boat. So I don't have much tolerance for a guy with a small boat or lake house whining about a guy with a bigger boat or house. To me it is like the have(s) whining about the have more(s). I happen to fall into the have(s) category. I am blessed enough to live here year 'round in a small condo off the water in the Weirs, and a smaller (26') boat.

Woodsy

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

I didn't say I would be happy about it.... But your question was philosophical... it would NEVER happen.

But the real issue is personal rights vs. public rights. Hence my reference to the horse being already out of the barn. IMHO, the lake has too few/little public access points. For example... Laconia does not have a public boat launch, and the only decent state owned launch is in Alton Bay with limited parking.

I also think this big boat ($$$$) vs little boat ($) argument is way overblown. If someone can afford a big $$$ boat good for them. If all someone can afford is a small $ boat... good for them too! Boats are luxury items... very few people NEED a boat. So I don't have much tolerance for a guy with a small boat or lake house whining about a guy with a bigger boat or house. To me it is like the have(s) whining about the have more(s). I happen to fall into the have(s) category. I am blessed enough to live here year 'round in a small condo off the water in the Weirs, and a smaller (26') boat.

Woodsy

I've been on the lake for 40 some odd years now and have seen all the changes first hand. Some are very good and some are very bad. I'm glad I'm off on a smaller lake close by now. I can still experience all the good and avoid all the bad.

[Donzi Minx]

Yes but Woodsy you have a ZX.
I'm joking just perpetuating the big boat / small boat!

Wait.... we are a cult just like BMW, Harley Davidson, we are DONZI!

[Woodsy]

Originally Posted by Donzi Minx

Yes but Woodsy you have a ZX.
I'm joking just perpetuating the big boat / small boat!

Wait.... we are a cult just like BMW, Harley Davidson, we are DONZI!

Yes we are.....

Woodsy

[Woodsy]

the funny part is..... I really do not see much "bad". I see big slow cruisers, go fast's, runabouts, jet skis etc all out enjoying this wonderful resource.

People say its crazy out there.... and don't get me wrong, there are way more boats this year. probably the most boats on the lake since the real estate crash.

Despite this... the reality is we have very, very few boat collisions of any sort.

I attribute this mostly to the 150' rule.... although distance on the water is hard to judge, and everybody thinks the "other guy" comes too close, causing all sorts of butthurt on the lake. The accident stats show that NH/Lake Winnipesaukee is very safe to boat on.

Woodsy

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

the funny part is..... I really do not see much "bad". I see big slow cruisers, go fast's, runabouts, jet skis etc all out enjoying this wonderful resource.

People say its crazy out there.... and don't get me wrong, there are way more boats this year. probably the most boats on the lake since the real estate crash.

Despite this... the reality is we have very, very few boat collisions of any sort.

I attribute this mostly to the 150' rule.... although distance on the water is hard to judge, and everybody thinks the "other guy" comes too close, causing all sorts of butthurt on the lake. The accident stats show that NH/Lake Winnipesaukee is very safe to boat on.

Woodsy

I guess we just view the area through a different set of goggles. I've always come to the NH lakes region to get away from the stress of traffic and congestion of Ma. but it is slowly creeping it's way up here on the roads and now on the lake.

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by Biggd

I guess we just view the area through a different set of goggles. I've always come to the NH lakes region to get away from the stress of traffic and congestion of Ma. but it is slowly creeping it's way up here on the roads and now on the lake.

Build a wall. Close the borders!

I for one am jealous. I would love to have that boat sitting at my dock! Hell, I will settle for a ride on it. No negativity about someone else owning it from me.

Those motors are great, after having a Verado 300 Pro on a previous boat and loving it I can imagine how sweet those 400's are. Whisper quiet at idle, and great under power.

[rsmlp]

Originally Posted by Biggd

I guess we just view the area through a different set of goggles. I've always come to the NH lakes region to get away from the stress of traffic and congestion of Ma. but it is slowly creeping it's way up here on the roads and now on the lake.

I have to call BS on this one. I've been on the lake for over 20 years and the "peak" for fast loud boats is behind us. Are there some out there? Of course! But fewer today than say 5-10 years ago. Anyways, this is the"live free or die" state, right?

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by rsmlp

I have to call BS on this one. I've been on the lake for over 20 years and the "peak" for fast loud boats is behind us. Are there some out there? Of course! But fewer today than say 5-10 years ago. Anyways, this is the"live free or die" state, right?

I've got you beat by 20 years. The boats today are much quieter but todays boats are much faster. Engine noise is no longer an issue with these new 4 stroke outboards. The speed limit and the number marine patrols on the lake has helped to keep the speed in check. Otherwise Winni would be a free for all on weekends.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Bernie had become President! Everyone would have received one of these new Subaru Boats for free, compliments of Bernie and the government. Nice and quiet, economical on fuel and perfect for all the tree huggers out there.

[New Hampshire Lake Man]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

I also think this big boat ($$$$) vs little boat ($) argument is way overblown. If someone can afford a big $$$ boat good for them. If all someone can afford is a small $ boat... good for them too! Boats are luxury items... very few people NEED a boat. So I don't have much tolerance for a guy with a small boat or lake house whining about a guy with a bigger boat or house. To me it is like the have(s) whining about the have more(s). I happen to fall into the have(s) category. I am blessed enough to live here year 'round in a small condo off the water in the Weirs, and a smaller (26') boat.

Woodsy

I really don't know where this idea that people are "whining" about the "haves" comes from, or that there is some element of jealousy at play. I don't like those boats and houses so why would I want one? I don't begrudge anyone their "success." For example, have you ever seen anyone complain about the beautiful mahogany Chris Crafts, Lymans, Gar-Woods, Hacker-Crafts of a bygone era? The best examples of those are often as expensive, if not more, than your average ocean-going behemoth or GFBL boat that can be found on Winnipesaukee. No one complains about them because they're beautiful and in keeping with the lake and its history. But the huge wakes and noise that the GFBL boats produce (not to mention speakers on wakeboard towers) destroy others' enjoyment. Those houses that clear 100' of trees so that they can have a view (or more likely so others' can view their house from the water) destroy the landscape for all of us. So I like to call people on it.

[Woodsy]

Its your choice how YOU spend your money.... but your choice should not be forced upon someone else. Because YOU don't like certain boats they should not be allowed? Because YOU don't like certain houses they should not be allowed either? Certainly sounds like a me me me attitude. How someone spends their money is not my concern as long as it is within the law. It is THEIR choice on how THEY want to spend THIER money. If someone wants and can afford an big house or a big boat... good for them!

That being said... all of the older hackercrafts/garwoods/etc have open (un-muffled) exhaust. They get a pass because they are few in number... if they were greater in number, no doubt there would be lots of noise/speed complaints.

Lake Winnipesaukee is owned by the people of NH. Although it is not a State Park in a formal manner... It is for all practical intents and purposes a State Park... thus it is subject to all sorts of uses by the public.

Nowhere is it written that anyone has the right to peace and quiet.... So ski/wakeboard or pontoon boats with their speakers booming, Go fast boats with legal exhaust, jet skis with their motor whine etc are all legally permitted uses in the lake.

Woodsy

[New Hampshire Lake Man]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Its your choice how YOU spend your money.... but your choice should not be forced upon someone else. Because YOU don't like certain boats they should not be allowed? Because YOU don't like certain houses they should not be allowed either? Certainly sounds like a me me me attitude. How someone spends their money is not my concern as long as it is within the law. It is THEIR choice on how THEY want to spend THIER money. If someone wants and can afford an big house or a big boat... good for them!

That being said... all of the older hackercrafts/garwoods/etc have open (un-muffled) exhaust. They get a pass because they are few in number... if they were greater in number, no doubt there would be lots of noise/speed complaints.

Lake Winnipesaukee is owned by the people of NH. Although it is not a State Park in a formal manner... It is for all practical intents and purposes a State Park... thus it is subject to all sorts of uses by the public.

Nowhere is it written that anyone has the right to peace and quiet.... So ski/wakeboard or pontoon boats with their speakers booming, Go fast boats with legal exhaust, jet skis with their motor whine etc are all legally permitted uses in the lake.

Woodsy

Interesting perspective. I want a beautiful and tranquil lake for everyone. Others want a loud boat and to clear-cut the shoreline, but I'm the selfish one. Mmmmkay.

[kbh]

Originally Posted by New Hampshire Lake Man

Interesting perspective. I want a beautiful and tranquil lake for everyone. Others want a loud boat and to clear-cut the shoreline, but I'm the selfish one. Mmmmkay.

I think the word perspective is correct... My perspective of beautiful and tranquil may not be the same as what you see as beautiful and tranquil. Reminds me of the commercial of a city couple setting up a tent in the woods and camping, then deciding it was too quiet and played city noise on their iPhone and fell fast asleep to honking, motors, and annoying (to me) city noise...

[Woodsy]

No offense but... Judging by the amount of and size of boats on the lake, and the amount of and size of houses on the lake....

Clearly, you are in the minority.... your vision of beautiful & tranquil doesn't seem to fit with what the majority of lake dwellers has embraced.

Forcing the majority of people to accept YOUR vision of what the lake should be is selfish... everyone has their own vision of how it should be.

If you want beautiful & tranquil... go to Squam or a smaller lake. That version of Lake Winnipesaukee ended a long, long time ago... if it ever even existed.

Woodsy

[New Hampshire Lake Man]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

If you want beautiful & tranquil... go to Squam

That pretty much sums up the modern attitude on Winnipesaukee. I think we can agree on that!

[RTTOOL]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

No offense but... Judging by the amount of and size of boats on the lake, and the amount of and size of houses on the lake....

Clearly, you are in the minority.... your vision of beautiful & tranquil doesn't seem to fit with what the majority of lake dwellers has embraced.

Forcing the majority of people to accept YOUR vision of what the lake should be is selfish... everyone has their own vision of how it should be.

If you want beautiful & tranquil... go to Squam or a smaller lake. That version of Lake Winnipesaukee ended a long, long time ago... if it ever even existed.

Woodsy

Judging by what you say the vision is forcing the minority to accept
that must be the same thoughts in 1930 ? when wooding power boats
hit the water thing change so move on its still beautiful & tranquil lake.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

No offense but... Judging by the amount of and size of boats on the lake, and the amount of and size of houses on the lake....

Clearly, you are in the minority.... your vision of beautiful & tranquil doesn't seem to fit with what the majority of lake dwellers has embraced.

Forcing the majority of people to accept YOUR vision of what the lake should be is selfish... everyone has their own vision of how it should be.

If you want beautiful & tranquil... go to Squam or a smaller lake. That version of Lake Winnipesaukee ended a long, long time ago... if it ever even existed.

Woodsy

I wouldn't be so sure about who's in the majority. A handful of loud boats disturbs dozens (hundreds?) of homes.

And nobody complained about the number of homes--the complaint was about clear cutting trees, which most people understand damages the lake.

In general, loud people take up more room, and therefore appear more numerous, than quiet people.

[Woodsy]

PeterG....

It was NH Lake Man who said "Many Winnipesaukee houses are completely ostentatious"

And my point is getting lost in the text of it all... So I will try to explain it more simply.

If the MAJORITY of lake dwellers and NH residents wanted a "tranquil" lake, the laws regarding how people can enjoy the lake would reflect that. In case you didn't know.... that's usually how our system of government works. Point in case.... Squam Lake. Always had a 45 MPH speed limit, very strict waterfront building codes etc. etc.

That has not been he case here on Lake Winnipesaukee, where until recently all forms of waterborne enjoyment were welcome.

Woodsy

[RTTOOL]

Originally Posted by woodsy

peterg....

It was nh lake man who said "many winnipesaukee houses are completely ostentatious"

and my point is getting lost in the text of it all... So i will try to explain it more simply.

If the majority of lake dwellers and nh residents wanted a "tranquil" lake, the laws regarding how people can enjoy the lake would reflect that. In case you didn't know.... That's usually how our system of government works. Point in case.... Squam lake. Always had a 45 mph speed limit, very strict waterfront building codes etc. Etc.

That has not been he case here on lake winnipesaukee, where until recently all forms of waterborne enjoyment were welcome.

Woodsy

waterborne enjoyment really are you ------

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

PeterG....

It was NH Lake Man who said "Many Winnipesaukee houses are completely ostentatious"

And my point is getting lost in the text of it all... So I will try to explain it more simply.

If the MAJORITY of lake dwellers and NH residents wanted a "tranquil" lake, the laws regarding how people can enjoy the lake would reflect that. In case you didn't know.... that's usually how our system of government works. Point in case.... Squam Lake. Always had a 45 MPH speed limit, very strict waterfront building codes etc. etc.

That has not been he case here on Lake Winnipesaukee, where until recently all forms of waterborne enjoyment were welcome.

Woodsy

The problem with your main point is that you assume Squam homes are available and Winni's history is more reflective of how people feel than Winni's present.

First, there is almost literally nothing for sale on Squam. Today, just for comparison, there are 19 homes for sale on Squam (Big and Little combined) and 764 available on Winni. As lopsided as these numbers are, they actually understate the difficulty of finding a home on the much more desirable Big Squam. Do a search, you'll be stunned.

Second, you assert that Winni's history is reflective of voters' desires, but do not recognize that recent efforts to curb some forms of "waterborne enjoyment" are also reflective of voters' desires. You cant have it both ways.

[radiocontester]

End of thread.

[New Hampshire Lake Man]

Originally Posted by radiocontester

End of thread.

Nah.......

[Woodsy]

PeterG....

You are missing my point.....

What is or is not for sale on Squam or Winnipesaukee is irrelevant... The towns that border Squam Lake and the Squam Lake Association have seen to it that the rules regarding that lake were written long ago to keep it's tranquil character. There has been a speed limit on Squam for as long as I can remember, and if it was not for threat of an eminent domain action by the State of NH, there would be NO public access on that lake.

The towns that border Lake Winnipesaukee have not enacted restrictions similar to Squam.... nor has the State of NH. Mainly because a majority of the public does not want them, and the towns want the tax $$ these large homes generate.

Woodsy

[Woody38]

Those antique boats with original engines don't make a lot of noise. Rather pleasant to some. Standing on shore the noise from some go-fast boats is ridiculous, but they like it. Maybe in future years their loss of hearing will be the result.

I am a retired workaholic and continuing aquaholic.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by codeman671

I was at a dealer on the lake yesterday and mentioned this boat to the sales rep.
He said that it belongs to Triple H.

Well then, my hat is off to Triple H, who bought a quiet boat—considerate of everybody at Lake Winnipesaukee.

Originally Posted by Woody38

Those antique boats with original engines don't make a lot of noise. Rather pleasant to some. Standing on shore the noise from some go-fast boats is ridiculous, but they like it.
Maybe in future years their loss of hearing will be the result.

Sadly, the negative effect of noise—and loss of hearing—is most intense in our youngsters:

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[Poor Richard]

I hope he buys six more, each with twice as many engines as the previous ones.

The jealousy and judgement being passed in this thread is saddening, at best.

Enjoy that Hateraid, curmudgeons.

[MeredithMan]

....As I posted earlier in this thread, neither of those are HHH's boat. His boat is quite modest. The big center console lives at a house next to HHH. Let's stop spreading false rumors.

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by MeredithMan

....As I posted earlier in this thread, neither of those are HHH's boat. His boat is quite modest. The big center console lives at a house next to HHH. Let's stop spreading false rumors.

We got it the first time you said it. I agree, I saw it on a lift at a house to the left of HHH's home.

APS was just stirring the pot as usual.

It cruised by me today by cattle landing, I will say the owner doesn't know what 150' looks like... it also seemed he was cruising pretty far into the channel between pine and the mainland before backing off as well. I was a ways back since my measly twin 200's can't keep up, but it looked like he was well into the no wake zone before backing down.

[kawishiwi]

Originally Posted by Poor Richard

I hope he buys six more, each with twice as many engines as the previous ones.

The jealousy and judgement being passed in this thread is saddening, at best.

Enjoy that Hateraid, curmudgeons.

You are such a snowflake!

[Poor Richard]

Originally Posted by kawishiwi

You are such a snowflake!

Oh the irony.

[kawishiwi]

Originally Posted by Poor Richard

Oh the irony.

Thank you for proving my point...snowflake.

[Poor Richard]

Originally Posted by kawishiwi

Thank you for proving my point...snowflake.

You can do better than this but I know what to expect already.

There is, however, a continued entertaining irony being called a snowflake....which is apparently the ultimate insult now...? I'm not sure. Been a while since I was 12.

[bigpatsfan]

Originally Posted by Poor Richard

I hope he buys six more, each with twice as many engines as the previous ones.

The jealousy and judgement being passed in this thread is saddening, at best.

Enjoy that Hateraid, curmudgeons.

Thanks for the post, could not have said it any better!

[rsmlp]

Webmaster, has this thread broken the record for posts? Got to be close...

[Biggd]

It seems like bickering between the have's and the have not's. I'm in the have not's as I do not have the money nor the desire to support one of these boats.

[Phantom]

rsmlp -- if that was a serious question ... the Answer is NO (not even close)


here are a few that dwarf this off track thread:
https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...t=11509&page=4
https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...t=18320&page=3

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[webmaster]

Originally Posted by rsmlp

Webmaster, has this thread broken the record for posts? Got to be close...

Not even close. This thread from 2008 had 1104 replies (so far this one has 153).

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by webmaster

Not even close. This thread from 2008 had 1104 replies (so far this one has 153).

I would have guessed this one or the speed limit thread

[Skip]

Originally Posted by webmaster

Not even close. This thread from 2008 had 1104 replies (so far this one has 153).

Thanks for the memories Don!

But this thread has established at least one new record....the times the new insult "snowflake" has been bantered about....

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by Skip

Thanks for the memories Don!

But this thread has established at least one new record....the times the new insult "snowflake" has been bantered about....

Where is that "thanks" button again?

[Shreddy]

I was always a big fan of the Skydive Laconia thread. Feel like that dragged for a long time with numerous updates but no positive conclusion.

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by Shreddy

I was always a big fan of the Skydive Laconia thread. Feel like that dragged for a long time with numerous updates but no positive conclusion.

Yeah your right!....whatever happened with that operation?? Did they finally give up??

Dan

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by Shreddy

I was always a big fan of the Skydive Laconia thread. Feel like that dragged for a long time with numerous updates but no positive conclusion.

Last post August 12, 2014 by the Noonan's

I guess they put a fork in it!

Wait! I thought they said they were never going to give up on Laconia.

https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...&postcount=592

[BroadHopper]

Been wondering what happen when I saw a beauty of a pontoon boat idling through Eagle Island no wake last night.
A Premier tri-toon with 3 300HP 'rudes! Didn't know Evinrude makes 300HP motors unless the owner put a different sticker on the motors to throw them off!

[TheTimeTraveler]

.....and, if you have a boat that may break the sound barrier then launch it over in Portsmouth and have fun in the salt water.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by Biggd

You're taking this quite personally so I know which side of the fence your on. To each his own. Thankfully I'm not on Winni, I'm on Waukewan, so I don't have to deal with those issues! Occasionally I will put my boat in Winni during the week when it's not so crazy and dangerous. It's not a safe environment on summer weekends anymore, IMO.

I am not taking this personally at all. My only problem with you and others is you cannot simply state that this type of boat does not belong on the lake without slamming the owner with childish comments about them such as manhood etc... That's it, hope you comprehend that.

[rsmlp]

Originally Posted by New Hampshire Lake Man

That boat is dumb. Quad engines? On an inland lake with 365 islands, limited open water, and a speed limit? It belongs in Miami.

As far as anyone being jealous, I think the operators of boats like these are usually the jealous ones - jealous that others don't have to ply the glacial waters of Winnipesaukee with 1600 HP to prove their manhood.

No comment on the quad 400's other than I suspect the owner has achieved his goals by this thread. There are 262 islands on the lake not 365.

http://www.bizer.com/

[Paugus Bay Resident]

It belongs in Miami.

Send it my way, we have room at our dock

[kawishiwi]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

The fact everyone is jealous because they have not is the reason behind the SL law. People are jealous of the GFBL boats of a decade ago. I remember the same folks also want HP and size restrictions of recreational boats. Their theme is 'On Golden Pond' attitude and they are definitely on the wrong lake!

1200 HP will definitely stir the hornet nest once more. Soon you they will ask for HP legislation. And I don't want to go there! I spent countless hours and dollars trying to fight for boaters rights, yet these group of Winni folks went through all kinds of political tactics to get the SL RSA. And they will do it again.

As I quote the SL sponsor: "Sea Rays belong on the seas, .....................".

I love my little tin boat and all 115 horses. I have no jealousy for the 1600hp boat. Some things are just ridiculous. 1600hp on Winnipesaukee is one example. I have no problem with it. In fact I feel a bit sorry for the owner. You seem to be a bit bitter about the speed limit. Please dont project that onto all of us who see the absurdity of that boat on Winni. In fact, if I had to guess, you might be the most jealous?

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by kawishiwi

I love my little tin boat and all 115 horses. I have no jealousy for the 1600hp boat. Some things are just ridiculous. 1600hp on Winnipesaukee is one example. I have no problem with it. In fact I feel a bit sorry for the owner. You seem to be a bit bitter about the speed limit. Please dont project that onto all of us who see the absurdity of that boat on Winni. In fact, if I had to guess, you might be the most jealous?

Why would you feel sorry for someone who has a cool toy and brings it the lake to enjoy?

Lot of haters in this thread that can't stand to see other people be successful or enjoy themselves.

[kawishiwi]

Originally Posted by brk-lnt

Why would you feel sorry for someone who has a cool toy and brings it the lake to enjoy?

Lot of haters in this thread that can't stand to see other people be successful or enjoy themselves.

... Just embarrassing yourself. No haters on this thread. Just folks who recognize silliness and mention it. Anyone who feels the need for 1600 hp on winni is trying to make up for a shortcoming elsewhere in life. I am TOTALLY FINE with that boat having 1600hp or more. But it is also funny. How fast do you get to 45 mph? Given all the weight I bet my boat gets to 40 before his does. You sound upset that other people dont share your envy of stupidity.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by kawishiwi

... Just embarrassing yourself. No haters on this thread. Just folks who recognize silliness and mention it. Anyone who feels the need for 1600 hp on winni is trying to make up for a shortcoming elsewhere in life. I am TOTALLY FINE with that boat having 1600hp or more. But it is also funny. How fast do you get to 45 mph? Given all the weight I bet my boat gets to 40 before his does. You sound upset that other people dont share your envy of stupidity.

It doesn't take much to figure out that this boat was not bought for primary use on Winnipesaukee, it's just here visiting. People like you deciding what is "silly" or "ridiculous" with limited information, all the while claiming you're "fine" with it are some interesting characters.

As for times to 45 MPH, speed limits, etc, who ever said it was brought here to race, or to push to its maximum potential?