New boat on the lake

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by jeffk

I'm not doubting the efficiency but given the specs of this 7 1/2+ ton boat (per the manufacturer) at 40 MPH cruise it gets about 1 mile per gallon. IF the boat was doing the speed limit it would burn through 45 gals per hour. After 10 hours, it would be sucking vapor. If you were out 5 hours each weekend day you would have to fill up every weekend. It you were running at top speed, and why else would you have this kind of boat, it would burn gas even faster. It may be efficient compared to some similar boats but it's still a LOT of money to keep it fueled and ready to play with.

BUT ... it's not MY money so, have fun!

Thinking further, in every hour you could do a complete back and forth of this 20 mile long lake. In a weekend, 10 times back and forth. I love the lake but it might get a little repetitive.

It's basically a show of opulence because there is really no need for a boat like this on this lake.

[jeffk]

Originally Posted by Biggd

It's basically a show of opulence because there is really no need for a boat like this on this lake.

If we only had what we really "need" life would probably be a bit dull. The property taxes and spending of the opulent people fuel the economy around the lake. If they want to put up a fancy house or drive a spiffy boat to point out they have been successful in life, so what.

I have a 22 foot bow rider. To those who couldn't afford one, they might get by with a skiff and an outboard and think I am showing off. I earned my money but I am not rich and I spend it as I can afford on things that I enjoy. I am sure some people see my car or boat and think "Wow, he must be well off". That's not my intention but I don't care if that's how people perceive it. It's their problem, not mine.

[fatlazyless]

I saw that boat with the four Merc outboards go past at a speed of about 35-mph, yesterday. It looks like a center console complete with an enclosure that was a boat designed by the Egyptian Navy for Queen Cleopatra to cruise up and down the Nile River. What it needs is two go-go dancers permanently positioned on the bow, port and starboard, and two Roman guards, positioned at the stern, port and starboard, and a 3-piece band positioned somewhere else ...... to bring it up to speed .... and make it a very happening boat!

Yes, that's all .....that's what it needs!

[ApS]

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Originally Posted by Resident 2B

I see a lot of these in Florida. Multiple outboards seem to be big down there these days. R2B

Me too.

I like outboards.

Most are quiet around the Big Lake. These outboards have submerged exhaust—thank you, Mercury—and won't produce the deafening "blatt" of too many I/Os.

'Course with thousands of miles to drift in Florida's open Gulfs and ocean, it's always a good thing to have a spare outboard; plus, it won't ruin your entire Lake Winnipesaukee season to have one "in the shop". (Though a spare prop would be a good idea).

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

Who Cares how fast the boat goes... I am sure it will go over 45, but if the owner, obeys the law what is the problem. My boat will go over 45 and I have no where that much power....

It a nice looking boat, I hope the owners enjoy it and also enjoy the lake...

Stop turning every good looking big boat into a speed limit debate.

OK. Now, with the lake at "high-water", maybe your shoreline hasn't had enough silt eroded from it.

Better?

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[HellRaZoR004]

Originally Posted by ApS

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Me too.

I like outboards.

Most are quiet around the Big Lake. These outboards have submerged exhaust—thank you, Mercury—and won't produce the deafening "blatt" of too many I/Os.

'Course with thousands of miles to drift in Florida's open Gulfs and ocean, it's always a good thing to have a spare outboard; plus, it won't ruin your entire Lake Winnipesaukee season to have one "in the shop". (Though a spare prop would be a good idea).


OK. Now, with the lake at "high-water", maybe your shoreline hasn't had enough silt eroded from it.

Better?

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Enough of your soapbox. A boat like this up on plane (regardless of the speed limit) will put out less of a wake than just putting around.

[Pricestavern]

That's going to be a mighty, mighty big expense if they, being new on the lake, try to blow thru the Witches (or lots of places around the lake in the fall). Could be a windfall for parts-pickers.

[cowisl]

Beautiful boat. Congrats! Happy boating

[DickR]

The only practical reason I can think of for having four outboards on the back of that boat is the raw low-end pulling pulling power it ought to provide for, say, yanking a dozen water skiiers out of the water in a ski show. Any other practical reasons?

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by DickR

The only practical reason I can think of for having four outboards on the back of that boat is the raw low-end pulling pulling power it ought to provide for, say, yanking a dozen water skiiers out of the water in a ski show. Any other practical reasons?

It obviously wasn't purchased for practicality, I'd say more for ego boosting.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by DickR

The only practical reason I can think of for having four outboards on the back of that boat is the raw low-end pulling pulling power it ought to provide for, say, yanking a dozen water skiiers out of the water in a ski show. Any other practical reasons?

Salt water use at high speed would be the #1 reason to have outboards on a boat. I/Os are not very good in salt water because they are high maintenance and the engines that power them are typically truck derived and made of iron. They also typically remain full of water at rest. You can tilt those outboards out of the water at the end of the day and the engines (which were built to handle raw water cooling from the start) will drain and be completely free of cooling water. Inboards are good in salt water too, but are not meant for really high speeds.

[Woodsy]

Asking about the "practicality" of this boat is like asking about the "practicality" of a Ferrari! Its not in any way shape or form "practical". It can however go from Point A to Point B fairly quickly and safely with a bunch of people on board having a blast!

I just want to know why he went Merc instead of Seven Marine?? You see A LOT of Seven Marine OB's on the high end Poker Runners like the one above!

http://www.seven-marine.com/technology

Woodsy

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

I just want to know why he went Merc instead of Seven Marine?? You see A LOT of Seven Marine OB's on the high end Poker Runners like the one above!

Woodsy

Probably the cost believe it or not. Seven Marine 627 HP outboards run almost $100,000.00 each!! The Mercury's are probably less than $25,000.00 each.

I have a good friend who Captains a 42' Intrepid with quad Seven Marine 627 HP engines,... On the ocean of course! It's a fantastic boat! I would love to have one!

Dan

[codeman671]

It has quad 400's. A picture of it was posted on facebook. It was spotted at the margate today.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

Probably the cost believe it or not. Seven Marine 627 HP outboards run almost $100,000.00 each!! The Mercury's are probably less than $25,000.00 each.

I have a good friend who Captains a 42' Intrepid with quad Seven Marine 627 HP engines,... On the ocean of course! It's a fantastic boat! I would love to have one!

Dan

Now that Volvo bought Seven Marine your buddy can look forward to poor service and lack of parts for those quads

[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by ApS

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OK. Now, with the lake at "high-water", maybe your shoreline hasn't had enough silt eroded from it.

Better?

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Well the thing is I would rather have this boat flying by my shoreline on plane at 40 - 45 MPH, and deal with that wake, then the 30-40 ft cruisers that plow through creating big rollers... Just saying...

Originally Posted by Biggd

Do you really think he's going to obey the law in that boat?

Weather I believe he will obey the law or not, is simply my opinion on that mater... Maybe he will maybe he will not, I have no why of really knowing, but I will not condemn him of not obeying the speed limit, until there is proof that he hasn't operated within the limits of the law.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

Well the thing is I would rather have this boat flying by my shoreline on plane at 40 - 45 MPH, and deal with that wake, then the 30-40 ft cruisers that plow through creating big rollers...

It doesn't matter that both designs belong on the ocean?


This lake has many, many, miles of steep shorelines. My steep shoreline is definitely eroding from weekend boaters who insist on boats designed for use on oceans.

→ For April's "opening-up", I routinely fill gallon jugs with Lake Winnipesaukee water each season to prime our water pump. In the photo below, the gallon on the right was dragged out from under the house, and was filled September, 2016.

Even drawing water 75 feet from our shoreline, the gallon on the left was filled last Sunday—a mistake!

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[Skip]

Originally Posted by ApS

→ For April's "opening-up", I routinely fill gallon jugs with Lake Winnipesaukee water each season to prime our water pump. In the photo below, the gallon on the right was dragged out from under the house, and was filled September, 2016.

Even drawing water 75 feet from our shoreline, the gallon on the left was filled last Sunday—a mistake!

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Too funny. Even a sixth grade science student would correctly surmise that any sediment present in a water sample drawn nearly a year ago would have long since settled out.

You are much much better at hyperbole than this my old friend. Please don't disappoint in your next post!

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by ApS

→ For April's "opening-up", I routinely fill gallon jugs with Lake Winnipesaukee water each season to prime our water pump. In the photo below, the gallon on the right was dragged out from under the house, and was filled September, 2016.

Even drawing water 75 feet from our shoreline, the gallon on the left was filled last Sunday—a mistake!

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ApS, very interesting. UNH and the Lake Winnipesaukee Association have a program underway to monitor water quality. You can check out your area on the link below. If your area does not have data, you can reach out to them or PM me for info on how to volunteer. I just started collecting samples a couple of weeks ago--it's kind of fun like a camp science project, and it could be important.

http://winnipesaukeegateway.org/moni...ing-sites-map/

[Bootkie2]

I noticed on this map Greens Basin area has poor water quality. This part of the lake is quieter than the rest so home maintenance and industrial causes are probably less of a factor, but I know the spraying of Millfoil chemicals has been very active in this area. Is the poor water quality a self inflicted wound (an ancillary effect of the chemical treatments?)

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by Bootkie2

I noticed on this map Greens Basin area has poor water quality. This part of the lake is quieter than the rest so home maintenance and industrial causes are probably less of a factor, but I know the spraying of Millfoil chemicals has been very active in this area. Is the poor water quality a self inflicted wound (an ancillary effect of the chemical treatments?)

I doubt it, it's much more likely due to the general lack of water flow up there, the shallow depths, and the tremendous amount of deciduous leaves that fall into that water, relative to the volume of water, compared to areas that are much more wide open and deep.

FWIW, clarity is just one measure of water quality, and it is not necessarily a measure of the health of a lake. Murky water is probably perfectly normal in that area of the lake. Google "tannic lake water" for lots moe info on the subject.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Bootkie2

I noticed on this map Greens Basin area has poor water quality. This part of the lake is quieter than the rest so home maintenance and industrial causes are probably less of a factor, but I know the spraying of Millfoil chemicals has been very active in this area. Is the poor water quality a self inflicted wound (an ancillary effect of the chemical treatments?)

Though that part of the lake is quieter, runoff and erosion from homes, roads and other areas is the primary driver, with the biggest water quality problem being phosphorous. Here's the Executive Summary:

http://winnipesaukeegateway.org/wp-c...mm_Mar2017.pdf

[Phantom]

So does anyone know where this boat is slipped if I wanted to take (non Lake) friends by to show them ?


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[MeredithMan]

Phantom--
Just tried to private message you on this, but I'm not sure it went through....

[Meredith AK]

Saw this parked in the roadway where this boat is docked. Pretty unique truck. Looks like it could pull a few locomotives and then some while it's at it. Hopefully the picture uploads.

[Biggd]

I wouldn't have expected anything less pulling that boat.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by Biggd

I wouldn't have expected anything less pulling that boat.

IF this is the trailer and tow vehicle for this boat it is a good combination.

[noreast]

I like the truck more than the boat!

[ApS]

Originally Posted by PeterG

ApS, very interesting. UNH and the Lake Winnipesaukee Association have a program underway to monitor water quality. You can check out your area on the link below. If your area does not have data, you can reach out to them or PM me for info on how to volunteer. I just started collecting samples a couple of weeks ago--it's kind of fun like a camp science project, and it could be important.

http://winnipesaukeegateway.org/moni...ing-sites-map/

Thanks, but my previous "data" only occurs on weekends and when the lake is high--in season.

Still, imagine all the lawncare pollution--and moss, leaves and silt--suddenly being rinsed into the lake--all at once.

First, it was the algae, but this is the first time in 61 years we must consider sediment filters--and lots of 'em.

[Slickcraft]

Alton Bay today

[SAMIAM]

Wow......love to see those two go at it.Think the Nor-tech might have the edge being a cat

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Wow......love to see those two go at it.Think the Nor-tech might have the edge being a cat

First one to get to the 45 speed limit wins?

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Wow......love to see those two go at it.Think the Nor-tech might have the edge being a cat

It wouldn't even be close... the cat would smoke it.

[Skip]

It almost seems criminal to see those two beautiful boats tied to a dock...thanks for the pics!

[fatlazyless]

You know, if you look close at that photo, on the left, there's a small green kayak being paddled by a paddler. Price for a kayak like this at Walmart is about $239.

And, google NorTech Twin Hull Cat, and the prices shown are very high, like $200-400,000.

Just shows the wide range of boat diversity here on Lake Winnipesaukee. One boat cost $239, the other costs $200-400,000. It could cost $239 to fill up the gas tank, one time?

A one people, paddler power vs a 1000-hp ...... different strokes for different folks ..... sharing the same waters ...... 'Easily Distracted', boat's name......seems like an accident waiting to happen?
.........

'Easily Distracted'; so, what's the context or meaning for 'Easily Distracted' ..... seems like a strange name for a boat .... is it about not paying attention while driving the boat or what ....when seen from the stern?

[ApS]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

You know, if you look close at that photo, on the left, there's a small green kayak being paddled by a paddler. Price for a kayak like this at Walmart is about $239. And, google NorTech Twin Hull Cat, and the prices shown are very high, like $200-400,000. Just shows the wide range of boat diversity here on Lake Winnipesaukee. One boat cost $239, the other costs $200-400,000. It could cost $239 to fill up the gas tank, one time? A one people, paddler power vs a 1000-hp ...... different strokes for different folks ..... sharing the same waters ......
'Easily Distracted', boat's name......seems like an accident waiting to happen?

'Easily Distracted'; so, what's the context or meaning for 'Easily Distracted'... seems like a strange name for a boat .... is it about not paying attention while driving the boat or what ....when seen from the stern?

The owner could "rue the day"—like the boats' names such as "No Patience", "'Salt and Battery", or "Temporary Insanity II", that have appeared here?



Ever wonder what happened to "Temporary Insanity I"?

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[livefreeordie]

Originally Posted by ApS

The owner could "rue the day"—like the boats' names such as "No Patience", "'Salt and Battery", or "Temporary Insanity II", that have appeared here?



Ever wonder what happened to "Temporary Insanity I"?

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The boat name fits the guy perfect, he has basically ADHD guy can't sit still. Thats the reason for the boat name, he's hyper

[The Real BigGuy]

Originally Posted by Biggd

It's basically a show of opulence because there is really no need for a boat like this on this lake.

You know, I see a lot of cars and a lot of homes around the lake that I could say the same thing about. Who Cares? It is not my place to be deciding how others spend their money and time and I can never understand why others seem to feel the need. Could it be that they secretly wish they were in the position to be the guy/woman behind the wheel? If they're not bothering you (and don't prejudge) let it go.


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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy

You know, I see a lot of cars and a lot of homes around the lake that I could say the same thing about. Who Cares? It is not my place to be deciding how others spend their money and time and I can never understand why others seem to feel the need. Could it be that they secretly wish they were in the position to be the guy/woman behind the wheel? If they're not bothering you (and don't prejudge) let it go.


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I don't really care, just expressing an opinion from my experience associating with people like this. He won't bother me at all because I'm on lake Waukewan.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by Biggd

I don't really care, just expressing an opinion from my experience associating with people like this. He won't bother me at all because I'm on lake Waukewan.

So why did you even comment in the first place if "he won't bother me at all" as you stated?

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Tyler

So why did you even comment in the first place if "he won't bother me at all" as you stated?

Sorry, I thought this was a public forum where anyone could post an opinion. Please forgive me.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Sorry, I thought this was a public forum where anyone could post an opinion. Please forgive me.

You are forgiven.

You did state that "from my experience associating with people like this", I am curious, have you met the owner of this boat?

[Formula260SS]

Very impressive, I would love to catch a ride. The interior is something to see, totally set-up for performance and comfort at the same time. And yes it draws attention for sure.

[kawishiwi]

Originally Posted by Formula260SS

Very impressive, I would love to catch a ride. The interior is something to see, totally set-up for performance and comfort at the same time. And yes it draws attention for sure.

Looks to me that boat sports old fashioned "Ego-Stroke" technology

[radiocontester]

Originally Posted by kawishiwi

Looks to me that boat sports old fashioned "Ego-Stroke" technology

Hopefully the owner is not that type....I appreciate cool boats like this but lose interest quickly when the owner is a bonehead, like the one I saw exiting the no wake zone on the north end of Bear Island Wednesday afternoon...pumping his fists and all.

[codeman671]

I was at a dealer on the lake yesterday and mentioned this boat to the sales rep. He said that it belongs to Triple H.

[noreast]

Originally Posted by codeman671

I was at a dealer on the lake yesterday and mentioned this boat to the sales rep. He said that it belongs to Triple H.

That boats on steroids!

[MeredithMan]

Originally Posted by codeman671

I was at a dealer on the lake yesterday and mentioned this boat to the sales rep. He said that it belongs to Triple H.

I have seen the boat docked at a place a couple doors down from Triple H, so that may be where the statement came from. Mr HHH's boat is actually quite modest.

[MeredithMan]

I will also add that I have seen the boat come and go from its home a number of times, as well as having passed it while on the lake. I've never seen any reckless behavior, crazy speed, blaring music, or other yahoo antics, that I have witnessed on much smaller, less expensive boats.

Don't really understand why so many people on this site are throwing rocks at someone they don't even know....

[Red apple]

Originally Posted by MeredithMan

I will also add that I have seen the boat come and go from its home a number of times, as well as having passed it while on the lake. I've never seen any reckless behavior, crazy speed, blaring music, or other yahoo antics, that I have witnessed on much smaller, less expensive boats.



Don't really understand why so many people on this site are throwing rocks at someone they don't even know....

Because they can't have one!


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[jeffatsquam]

Originally Posted by Formula260SS

Very impressive, I would love to catch a ride. The interior is something to see, totally set-up for performance and comfort at the same time. And yes it draws attention for sure.

It appears it dose not even need bumpers, and covering it must be a bear

[Seaplane Pilot]

Just noticed this boat has the controversial rear-facing seat! Oh boy...

[BroadHopper]

The fact everyone is jealous because they have not is the reason behind the SL law. People are jealous of the GFBL boats of a decade ago. I remember the same folks also want HP and size restrictions of recreational boats. Their theme is 'On Golden Pond' attitude and they are definitely on the wrong lake!

1200 HP will definitely stir the hornet nest once more. Soon you they will ask for HP legislation. And I don't want to go there! I spent countless hours and dollars trying to fight for boaters rights, yet these group of Winni folks went through all kinds of political tactics to get the SL RSA. And they will do it again.

As I quote the SL sponsor: "Sea Rays belong on the seas, .....................".

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

The fact everyone is jealous because they have not is the reason behind the SL law. People are jealous of the GFBL boats of a decade ago. I remember the same folks also want HP and size restrictions of recreational boats. Their theme is 'On Golden Pond' attitude and they are definitely on the wrong lake!

1200 HP will definitely stir the hornet nest once more. Soon you they will ask for HP legislation. And I don't want to go there! I spent countless hours and dollars trying to fight for boaters rights, yet these group of Winni folks went through all kinds of political tactics to get the SL RSA. And they will do it again.

As I quote the SL sponsor: "Sea Rays belong on the seas, .....................".

Check your math...I see 1600 horses!

[New Hampshire Lake Man]

That boat is dumb. Quad engines? On an inland lake with 263 islands, limited open water, and a speed limit? It belongs in Miami.

As far as anyone being jealous, I think the operators of boats like these are usually the jealous ones - jealous that others don't have to ply the glacial waters of Winnipesaukee with 1600 HP to prove their manhood.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by New Hampshire Lake Man

That boat is dumb. Quad engines? On an inland lake with 365 islands, limited open water, and a speed limit? It belongs in Miami.

As far as anyone being jealous, I think the operators of boats like these are usually the jealous ones - jealous that others don't have to ply the glacial waters of Winnipesaukee with 1600 HP to prove their manhood.

Comments like this are what is wrong with society today. Slam the owner of this boat without even knowing them. Very discouraging.

[New Hampshire Lake Man]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Comments like this are what is wrong with society today. Slam the owner of this boat without even knowing them. Very discouraging.

Simply responding to someone else's accusation (that those of us who oppose 1600 HP boats on Winnipesaukee are somehow "jealous"). I can't let such a ridiculous comment go unchallenged. The only thing I'm jealous of is other lakes that have figured out how to maintain the peace and tranquility of God's creation while still enabling the broader community to enjoy access to the water.

[Tyler]

New Hampshire Lake Man posted "jealous that others don't have to ply the glacial waters of Winnipesaukee with 1600 HP to prove their manhood."


I only have a problem with that comment from you. "Prove their manhood", come on man grow up. Simply state that you do not think this type of boat belongs on the lake and not take a cheap shot at the owner.

[camp guy]

Thank goodness this new boat is on the Lake, right or wrong, 'cause if it wasn't here, what would we have to talk about.??

[ursa minor]

In reply to APS: we had nearly record low water levels last year when you filled that bottle on the right. Low rainfall = minimal runoff into the lake = really clear water. We've had a fair amount of rain this year and the lake is at or very nearly full. I'll take a little discoloration in the lake for regular rainfall.

I've seen the boat that's the subject of this thread. It's WAY above my pay grade and not my personal cup of Joe but it was wicked quiet going by our place. To each their own, I'll admit I'd like a ride!

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Comments like this are what is wrong with society today. Slam the owner of this boat without even knowing them. Very discouraging.

It's no different than you slamming the posters on here that are making comments against the need for a 1600HP boat on the lake.

[Woodsy]

Wow.... gotta love all of the negativity!

So what if somebody has 1600Hp of eggbeaters hanging off the back of his boat? Its not your business! If he can afford the boat/gas/transport etc... good for him!

Lets start slamming all of the big lakefront homeowners too.... I mean why would you ever need a house like that? Cheers to those who can afford those houses!

I saw this boat running during the Easter Seals Poker Run... probably the quietest boat in the crowd. Not to mention it wasn't remotely the fastest!

Its AWESOME to see boats like this coming back to Lake Winni!

Woodsy

[New Hampshire Lake Man]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Wow.... gotta love all of the negativity!
Lets start slamming all of the big lakefront homeowners too.... I mean why would you ever need a house like that? Cheers to those who can afford those houses!

Many Winnipesaukee houses are completely ostentatious. Rather than trying to erect something in harmony with the environment and preserve the serene natural beauty of Winni by building something a bit set back, painting it green or brown, and keeping some tree coverage, today it is fashionable to clear cut the trees, build enormous monuments to ourselves, and paint them white or light gray as if to say "Look what I can do!" It is the New Money ethos.

But, to take your analogy a bit further, if Jeff Bezos, or worse some corporation, wanted to spend his fortune by buying ALL the property on Winnipesaukee, demolishing all the homes and businesses, and preserving Winni for his own personal enjoyment do you think something should prevent him from doing so?

[Woodsy]

Its YOUR opinion that the lake houses are too ostentatious and not in harmony. If you want a quieter, more restrictive lake go to Squam or one of the less developed lakes.

Lake Winni has a long storied history of large houses, speedboats and big money. The "barn door" has been open on Lake Winni far too long to get the horses back into the barn.

There have been numerous opportunities for the State of NH/lakeside towns to buy up some lakefront/island property and preserve it.... yet no real effort was made. The lake adds too much money to the economy. So if Bezos were to swoop in and try to buy it all up... the State would block the deal. Too much tax $$$ would be lost, not to mention the economic devastation to the area.

The reality is.... that except for island dwellers, nobody NEEDS a boat. They are a luxury item.... So just like a luxury car... there going to be Ferraris, and Lamborghinis driving around with the Chevy's & Fords...

Woodsy

[New Hampshire Lake Man]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Its YOUR opinion that the lake houses are too ostentatious and not in harmony. If you want a quieter, more restrictive lake go to Squam or one of the less developed lakes.

Lake Winni has a long storied history of large houses, speedboats and big money. The "barn door" has been open on Lake Winni far too long to get the horses back into the barn.

There have been numerous opportunities for the State of NH/lakeside towns to buy up some lakefront/island property and preserve it.... yet no real effort was made. The lake adds too much money to the economy. So if Bezos were to swoop in and try to buy it all up... the State would block the deal. Too much tax $$$ would be lost, not to mention the economic devastation to the area.

The reality is.... that except for island dwellers, nobody NEEDS a boat. They are a luxury item.... So just like a luxury car... there going to be Ferraris, and Lamborghinis driving around with the Chevy's & Fords...

Woodsy

1) Yes, my opinion. I wrote it.
2) I do go to a different lake. My roots are at Winni but I left years ago to get away from the ocean-going vessels and GFBL ridiculousness. But I still love Winni and hold out hope for her future.
3) My question was a philosophical one, not a practical one. I'm curious to know if you think there should be any limits to what people can do on the lake. Philosophically speaking, do you have an objection to extraordinary wealth being used to purchase ALL property, close docks, marinas, etc? SHOULD Bezos be allowed to do that if he chose to?
4) The analogy of luxury cars is problematic because cars are the same size. A better analogy would be allowing monster trucks to drive on 93 at 70 miles an hour. Or, in some cases, a Boeing 787.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by Biggd

It's no different than you slamming the posters on here that are making comments against the need for a 1600HP boat on the lake.

My posts are VERY different. I am not slamming anyone posting that suggest there is not a need for a 1600 hp boat on this lake. My issue is with those who suggest that the OWNER of this and other similar boats are personally attacked by some including yourself. No need to slam the owner, if you do not like this type of boat simply state that and do not slam the owner, pretty simple, hope you can comprehend that.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Tyler

My posts are VERY different. I am not slamming anyone posting that suggest there is not a need for a 1600 hp boat on this lake. My issue is with those who suggest that the OWNER of this and other similar boats are personally attacked by some including yourself. No need to slam the owner, if you do not like this type of boat simply state that and do not slam the owner, pretty simple, hope you can comprehend that.

You're taking this quite personally so I know which side of the fence your on. To each his own. Thankfully I'm not on Winni, I'm on Waukewan, so I don't have to deal with those issues! Occasionally I will put my boat in Winni during the week when it's not so crazy and dangerous. It's not a safe environment on summer weekends anymore, IMO.

[New Hampshire Lake Man]

Woodsy- I admire your consistency. You have no problem with an individual closing out 95% of access to the lake. I don't agree with you but appreciate the consistent application of your philosophy.

[Woodsy]

I didn't say I would be happy about it.... But your question was philosophical... it would NEVER happen.

But the real issue is personal rights vs. public rights. Hence my reference to the horse being already out of the barn. IMHO, the lake has too few/little public access points. For example... Laconia does not have a public boat launch, and the only decent state owned launch is in Alton Bay with limited parking.

I also think this big boat ($$$$) vs little boat ($) argument is way overblown. If someone can afford a big $$$ boat good for them. If all someone can afford is a small $ boat... good for them too! Boats are luxury items... very few people NEED a boat. So I don't have much tolerance for a guy with a small boat or lake house whining about a guy with a bigger boat or house. To me it is like the have(s) whining about the have more(s). I happen to fall into the have(s) category. I am blessed enough to live here year 'round in a small condo off the water in the Weirs, and a smaller (26') boat.

Woodsy

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by Biggd

You're taking this quite personally so I know which side of the fence your on. To each his own. Thankfully I'm not on Winni, I'm on Waukewan, so I don't have to deal with those issues! Occasionally I will put my boat in Winni during the week when it's not so crazy and dangerous. It's not a safe environment on summer weekends anymore, IMO.

I am not taking this personally at all. My only problem with you and others is you cannot simply state that this type of boat does not belong on the lake without slamming the owner with childish comments about them such as manhood etc... That's it, hope you comprehend that.

[rsmlp]

Originally Posted by New Hampshire Lake Man

That boat is dumb. Quad engines? On an inland lake with 365 islands, limited open water, and a speed limit? It belongs in Miami.

As far as anyone being jealous, I think the operators of boats like these are usually the jealous ones - jealous that others don't have to ply the glacial waters of Winnipesaukee with 1600 HP to prove their manhood.

No comment on the quad 400's other than I suspect the owner has achieved his goals by this thread. There are 262 islands on the lake not 365.

http://www.bizer.com/

[Paugus Bay Resident]

It belongs in Miami.

Send it my way, we have room at our dock

[kawishiwi]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

The fact everyone is jealous because they have not is the reason behind the SL law. People are jealous of the GFBL boats of a decade ago. I remember the same folks also want HP and size restrictions of recreational boats. Their theme is 'On Golden Pond' attitude and they are definitely on the wrong lake!

1200 HP will definitely stir the hornet nest once more. Soon you they will ask for HP legislation. And I don't want to go there! I spent countless hours and dollars trying to fight for boaters rights, yet these group of Winni folks went through all kinds of political tactics to get the SL RSA. And they will do it again.

As I quote the SL sponsor: "Sea Rays belong on the seas, .....................".

I love my little tin boat and all 115 horses. I have no jealousy for the 1600hp boat. Some things are just ridiculous. 1600hp on Winnipesaukee is one example. I have no problem with it. In fact I feel a bit sorry for the owner. You seem to be a bit bitter about the speed limit. Please dont project that onto all of us who see the absurdity of that boat on Winni. In fact, if I had to guess, you might be the most jealous?

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by kawishiwi

I love my little tin boat and all 115 horses. I have no jealousy for the 1600hp boat. Some things are just ridiculous. 1600hp on Winnipesaukee is one example. I have no problem with it. In fact I feel a bit sorry for the owner. You seem to be a bit bitter about the speed limit. Please dont project that onto all of us who see the absurdity of that boat on Winni. In fact, if I had to guess, you might be the most jealous?

Why would you feel sorry for someone who has a cool toy and brings it the lake to enjoy?

Lot of haters in this thread that can't stand to see other people be successful or enjoy themselves.

[kawishiwi]

Originally Posted by brk-lnt

Why would you feel sorry for someone who has a cool toy and brings it the lake to enjoy?

Lot of haters in this thread that can't stand to see other people be successful or enjoy themselves.

... Just embarrassing yourself. No haters on this thread. Just folks who recognize silliness and mention it. Anyone who feels the need for 1600 hp on winni is trying to make up for a shortcoming elsewhere in life. I am TOTALLY FINE with that boat having 1600hp or more. But it is also funny. How fast do you get to 45 mph? Given all the weight I bet my boat gets to 40 before his does. You sound upset that other people dont share your envy of stupidity.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by kawishiwi

... Just embarrassing yourself. No haters on this thread. Just folks who recognize silliness and mention it. Anyone who feels the need for 1600 hp on winni is trying to make up for a shortcoming elsewhere in life. I am TOTALLY FINE with that boat having 1600hp or more. But it is also funny. How fast do you get to 45 mph? Given all the weight I bet my boat gets to 40 before his does. You sound upset that other people dont share your envy of stupidity.

It doesn't take much to figure out that this boat was not bought for primary use on Winnipesaukee, it's just here visiting. People like you deciding what is "silly" or "ridiculous" with limited information, all the while claiming you're "fine" with it are some interesting characters.

As for times to 45 MPH, speed limits, etc, who ever said it was brought here to race, or to push to its maximum potential?