Official 2017 Ice-In Thread

[NYCtoLSP]

Had an interesting conversation the other day with some fishermen who live in the area. They thought it was possible that the reason the broads and in front of welch's isn't staying frozen was because of the bubblers that people are installing around their docks on welch's, and possibly installing them improperly so that they cause a larger open space than necessary. Not sure if there's any truth to this, but food for thought...

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by NYCtoLSP

Had an interesting conversation the other day with some fishermen who live in the area. They thought it was possible that the reason the broads and in front of welch's isn't staying frozen was because of the bubblers that people are installing around their docks on welch's, and possibly installing them improperly so that they cause a larger open space than necessary. Not sure if there's any truth to this, but food for thought...

No truth whatsoever as most if not all on Welch have seasonal lift out docks and / or breakwater dock systems...no bubblers.

The reason I believe that area is always last to freeze is because of the current coming from the tributaries off the mountain as well as poor farm brook. You can almost always see a ripple on the surface during the summer even when the rest of the lake is flat dead calm...

Dan

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by NYCtoLSP

Had an interesting conversation the other day with some fishermen who live in the area. They thought it was possible that the reason the broads and in front of welch's isn't staying frozen was because of the bubblers that people are installing around their docks on welch's, and possibly installing them improperly so that they cause a larger open space than necessary. Not sure if there's any truth to this, but food for thought...

Not buying that one bit, sorry. We used to run 2 bubblers at our dock on Mark (we had 3 fingers so one in each inside slip), the ice would be safe to walk on 20-30 feet from the open water.

It is due to natural causes- springs, currents, wind patterns, etc, not bubblers.

[Slickcraft]

Originally Posted by NYCtoLSP

Had an interesting conversation the other day with some fishermen who live in the area. They thought it was possible that the reason the broads and in front of welch's isn't staying frozen was because of the bubblers that people are installing around their docks on welch's, and possibly installing them improperly so that they cause a larger open space than necessary. Not sure if there's any truth to this, but food for thought...

I'm not aware of any bubblers currently being used on Welch. Also the underlying physics of bubblers being the cause of the Broads being open are more than far fetched.

BTW, bubblers are not much use out there. As has been mentioned almost all docks on Welch are either seasonal or have a breakwater. Ice damage can occur when an ill wind brings in a thick ice slab against the unprotected side of the breakwater however a bubbler has little effect on an 18" thick moving ice flow. Another reason that bubblers are not common out there is any winter power loss will not be repaired until after ice out.

[jeffatsquam]

Originally Posted by NYCtoLSP

Had an interesting conversation the other day with some fishermen who live in the area. They thought it was possible that the reason the broads and in front of welch's isn't staying frozen was because of the bubblers that people are installing around their docks on welch's, and possibly installing them improperly so that they cause a larger open space than necessary. Not sure if there's any truth to this, but food for thought...

Well you pretty much just heard from the "Senate" on that one thats about as much Lake experience you'll find in one afternoon.