Hermit Woods Winery

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by upthesaukee

I agree, Dan. Raise the price. A 3.5% increase on a $20 bottle of wine raises the price to $20.70; a $40 bottle of wine goes up to $41.40 . It seems to me to be either a "feel good" change; tell the employees that they are getting a raise, and price the wine accordingly. If someone likes their product (s) , they will buy it. Just don't go public with the raises and then tell me that I can still drink their wine, as long as I pay a 3.5% surcharge for that privilege.

I live here... I am always Upthesaukee.

Exactly!

Dan

[Patiently Watching]

Never have heard of this place , but certainly won't be paying a 'lazy worker premium' for what I'm sure is a substandard product...

[garysanfran]

Personally, I don't like being waited on by some loser in their 40's with 2 kids, who's skill level is minimum wage. Raising the wage not only doesn't make this person a better employee, it's taking jobs away from young people who need the entry level opportunity.

What happened to the "adult" who's making minimum wage? Many think society failed them. Many think they failed themselves.

[Reilly]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

Personally, I don't like being waited on by some loser in their 40's with 2 kids, who's skill level is minimum wage. Raising the wage not only doesn't make this person a better employee, it's taking jobs away from young people who need the entry level opportunity.

What happened to the "adult" who's making minimum wage? Many think society failed them. Many think they failed themselves.

I quess you feel that u are better than everyone else because maybe you make more than minimum wage ? You are not & you have no idea why anyone is working in the position they are in but they are working & not collecting free $$$ somehow. Everyone is different & Everyone is EQUAL

[Major]

Originally Posted by Reilly

Everyone is different & Everyone is EQUAL

I agree that everyone is different. I disagree that everyone is equal. Some people are smarter, some people work harder, some people were raised under better circumstances. Nothing in life is guaranteed. Everyone should have an equal opportunity to succeed, and I think in America, we come as close to that ideal as possible.

Creating an artificial minimum wage does nothing but damage the economy. My grandparents, parents, uncles, brothers and I have owned small businesses through the years, and if forced to pay a high minimum wage, we would not have been successful. We're not multimillionaires, but successful small business owners who create entry level and working wage jobs for individuals willing to work hard.

Like many posters, I didn't need to know that Hermit Woods was increasing its minimum wage and passing this cost onto the consumers. I would have rather not known that an already pricey product is increasing. However, this is an excellent example of what happens when an artificial increase of the minimum wage occurs -- either the cost of the product goes up or less employees are asked to do more work.

[Winnisquamer]

Originally Posted by Major

I agree that everyone is different. I disagree that everyone is equal. Some people are smarter, some people work harder, some people were raised under better circumstances. Nothing in life is guaranteed. Everyone should have an equal opportunity to succeed, and I think in America, we come as close to that ideal as possible.

Creating an artificial minimum wage does nothing but damage the economy. My grandparents, parents, uncles, brothers and I have owned small businesses through the years, and if forced to pay a high minimum wage, we would not have been successful. We're not multimillionaires, but successful small business owners who create entry level and working wage jobs for individuals willing to work hard.

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Bingo! Except I don't think everyone is given an equal opportunity anymore, with all due respect affirmative action and hiring based off of diversity is not equal for the people who don't fit those demographics. In my opinion it should be based off the best applicant regardless of anything but that's a different topic. No more asking for race, sex, or age etc on any applications.

The everyone is equal thought is a problem in today's society. I was taught you want something go work for it, nothings handed to you. And if you don't want it bad enough someone else will surely take it. Sure on a moral level we are all people and equal and all that junk, but when discussing business and pay a surgeon and a icecream scooper are not equal, and should not be compensated as equals.

As far as Hermit making a political statement, look how Chick-filet did after they made their homophobic comments a while back. In some states I could see that kind of transparency used as a marketing scheme.

[fatlazyless]

With stores in New Hampton, Meredith, and Center Harbor, that's probably a lot of competition from the state liquor stores for the Hermit Woods store in Meredith. Believe state liquor pays about $12.25/hr for starting employees. State Liquor has a huge selection of wine at very reasonable prices, too.

Have you been in the new state liquor stores in either New Hampton or Plymouth.....both are very large! The state liquor in Ashland, at exit 24, has closed permanently......probably due to the closeness of the new huge store in Plymouth.

You know, if you do not drink adult beverages, or play any lottery games, there is absolutely nothing for you in a state liquor store, and NH has about 78 stores across the state. Maybe the state could hold mental health counseling clinics, every Monday from 2-3:30, in the back of the state liquor stores, for the rest of us who never, ever, go inside a state liquor store ...... as a secret way to build the business and create new customers.

Everyone who has no reason to go to a state liquor store ...... please raise your hand .....you know who you are.

For about $3.25, Walmart sells a 1 1/2 litre of white wine called Golden Oak or something, and I have had the same bottle in the back of the frig for about four years now......think I should use it for cleaning the stainless steel kitchen sink......ho-ho-ho-ho! .... is cheaper than stainless sink cleaner ....and tastes much better too!

[noreast]

I commend them for paying the employee's as much as they can and still have a working business model, If they indeed do, but to say there is a surcharge for that is absurd. There obviously pandering, other wise they would charge what they need to charge and keep It to themselves. I guess they've chosen which 50% they are targeting.

[Newbiesaukee]

Regardless of one's political views, in my opinion, it was a poor business decision to alienate customers by stating the "surcharge." My politics are probably a little left on some issues than most of the Forum, but I did find this policy statement a little too self-serving.

To me, it is similar to hanging a political poster. It would rarely be a good business decision even though the business has every right to do so.

And if the business is not doing so well, if it goes "belly-up" it is of little help to workers regardless of minimum wage.

[Pineedles]

This kinda reminds me of the VK thread and not accepting Credit Cards.

[Reilly]

Originally Posted by Major

I agree that everyone is different. I disagree that everyone is equal. Some people are smarter, some people work harder, some people were raised under better circumstances. Nothing in life is guaranteed. Everyone should have an equal opportunity to succeed, and I think in America, we come as close to that ideal as possible.

Creating an artificial minimum wage does nothing but damage the economy. My grandparents, parents, uncles, brothers and I have owned small businesses through the years, and if forced to pay a high minimum wage, we would not have been successful. We're not multimillionaires, but successful small business owners who create entry level and working wage jobs for individuals willing to work hard.

Like many posters, I didn't need to know that Hermit Woods was increasing its minimum wage and passing this cost onto the consumers. I would have rather not known that an already pricey product is increasing. However, this is an excellent example of what happens when an artificial increase of the minimum wage occurs -- either the cost of the product goes up or less employees are asked to do more work.

I have to agree with u fully, I know I am off base here but I was trying to make a point that the 40 year old person trying to support 2 kids should NOT be called a loser by anyone Period

[topwater]

Originally Posted by Reilly

I quess you feel that u are better than everyone else because maybe you make more than minimum wage ? You are not & you have no idea why anyone is working in the position they are in but they are working & not collecting free $$$ somehow. Everyone is different & Everyone is EQUAL

NO, everyone is not equal. Get used to it, they're not. In God's eyes maybe, but in the employment field not even CLOSE.

[Irish mist]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

Personally, I don't like being waited on by some loser in their 40's with 2 kids, who's skill level is minimum wage. Raising the wage not only doesn't make this person a better employee, it's taking jobs away from young people who need the entry level opportunity.

What happened to the "adult" who's making minimum wage? Many think society failed them. Many think they failed themselves.

My late father taught me as a youth that all work is honorable. A simple, but important concept to grasp. I'm not coming down on you, but your "concern" about being served by some loser trying to make a living says more about your thought process than these individuals working for a living in whatever stage of life they find themselves in.

[tis]

I have to say I admire anybody who WORKS for a living no matter what they make. When I keep hearing that people won't work because they can make more sitting on their butt and collecting welfare, it makes me mad. And it is so obvious that the more a company has to pay in wages or any cost of doing business for that matter, the more they are going to have to charge for their product. Who can't understand that???? Bread and hamburg used to be 5 cents a pound in the old days when the average person made 18 dollars a week. It is all relative.