Ice Fatality?

[Shreddy]

Originally Posted by secondcurve

We will have agree to disagree on this one. The tournament shouldn't have been held due to the poor ice conditions. At least four ice fisherman that I heard about went through the ice but managed to survive. I'm sure there were many more. Just because there were no fatalities doesn't mean it was an appropriate risk for the Rotary to take by holding the tournament. To relate it to your skiing example, if trails on a mountain are treacherous due to ice, thin cover, obstacles, etc. the ski area has a duty to close the trails to protect its customers. The same type of thought process should have been applied to the ice fishing tournament. Yes, both of these sports have inherent risk but that doesn't mean the folks in charge should simply allow an anything goes mentality. I'm all for personal responsibility but I think event organizers have a responsibility to their customers as well.

THIS is exactly what's wrong with society nowadays. Heaven forbid people take responsibility for their OWN actions. All too frequently everyone wants to point the finger at someone else. Your first post about putting them in jail is WHOLLY WITHOUT MERIT considering there was NOTHING illegal about the derby. Regardless of the year, there will ALWAYS be risk when traveling on the ice. Further, you jumped to a conclusion without any facts and blamed this unfortunate death on the derby association when they had nothing to do with his death. Stop trying to blame others for actions they can't control.

[secondcurve]

Originally Posted by Shreddy

THIS is exactly what's wrong with society nowadays. Heaven forbid people take responsibility for their OWN actions. All too frequently everyone wants to point the finger at someone else. Your first post about putting them in jail is WHOLLY WITHOUT MERIT considering there was NOTHING illegal about the derby. Regardless of the year, there will ALWAYS be risk when traveling on the ice. Further, you jumped to a conclusion without any facts and blamed this unfortunate death on the derby association when they had nothing to do with his death. Stop trying to blame others for actions they can't control.

Scruffy: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT AT ME. You sound like Donald Trump. I agree personal responsibility at the individual level is important. However, there is also a duty of responsibility for organizations such as the fishing derby. And while we were fortunate no-one was killed in the derby due to thin ice, that doesn't mean the risk taken was appropriate.

I guess we will simply need to agree to disagree here.

[Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by secondcurve

Scruffy: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT AT ME. You sound like Donald Trump.

I do not see where anyone named "scruffy" replied to you, nor do I see where any political affiliation was present in this thread. Kudos to you for finding that info.

As far as

And while we were fortunate no-one was killed in the derby due to thin ice, that doesn't mean the risk taken was appropriate.

You do realize that the smaller lakes and ponds have sufficient ice coverage for ice fishing.. right? This fishing derby was not exclusive to Lake Winni!

"People need to take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their own actions".