Four Days on the Lake

[CateP]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

Cate,

How much water do you need to feel comfortable?

I would say at least 3'10" to feel safe with the rise and fall of boat wakes. The keel lies in the middle of the boat so we have about 12 feet of boat that needs to be forward of that point, which means the depth needs to be measured at least 10-12 feet in towards shore from the end of dock. That is the key I believe. Our dockage at Rattlesnake shows the best dockage situation. Full boat at dock and deep enough at keel. Mast clearance at 26 ft. is also a consideration. A lot of docks on the lake are not designed for big boats like ours. Chase Island dock is an exception because the owner is a sailor and has had big sailboats like ours in the past.

Thanks for your consideration of having the Reliance crew visit.

[bclaker]

Thanks Cate for sharing your vacation on the water.

[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by CateP

I would say at least 3'10" to feel safe with the rise and fall of boat wakes. The keel lies in the middle of the boat so we have about 12 feet of boat that needs to be forward of that point, which means the depth needs to be measured at least 10-12 feet in towards shore from the end of dock. That is the key I believe. Our dockage at Rattlesnake shows the best dockage situation. Full boat at dock and deep enough at keel. Mast clearance at 26 ft. is also a consideration. A lot of docks on the lake are not designed for big boats like ours. Chase Island dock is an exception because the owner is a sailor and has had big sailboats like ours in the past.

Thanks for your consideration of having the Reliance crew visit.

Cate, I think what you are doing is awesome.... I think the lake should be more friendly in this regard and allow overnight mooring, as long as a boat is equipped properly.

How do you feel about anchoring and falling back and tying off to a dock?
I would believe this to be a legal technique allowing you to remain over night.

I would of course need to check with other family members, but I have a feeling I could convince them, especially as we are not often around during the week... and I can facilitate a weekend visit by just making it my weekend to use the camp....

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

I think the lake should be more friendly in this regard and allow overnight mooring, as long as a boat is equipped properly.

I agree. That said, a good start would be to allow paid overnight stays at town docks. I spent some time on my boat in the 1000 Islands area this Summer and it was eye-opening. The port towns there do everything they can to make it boater-friendly and it was such a treat. Every town allowed limited-stay overnight docking (for a fee) and provided nice showers and bathrooms. Winnipesaukee port towns should do the same. It would help businesses, create jobs and generate revenue for the towns. It would also make for better utilization of existing facilities and likely prevent many BUI instances. Noise ordinances would be pathetically easy to enforce too, because the local PD could do so from shore. I can't think of a down side.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Dave R

I agree. That said, a good start would be to allow paid overnight stays at town docks. I spent some time on my boat in the 1000 Islands area this Summer and it was eye-opening. The port towns there do everything they can to make it boater-friendly and it was such a treat. Every town allowed limited-stay overnight docking (for a fee) and provided nice showers and bathrooms. Winnipesaukee port towns should do the same. It would help businesses, create jobs and generate revenue for the towns. It would also make for better utilization of existing facilities and likely prevent many BUI instances. Noise ordinances would be pathetically easy to enforce too, because the local PD could do so from shore. I can't think of a down side.

I agree 100%

[HellRaZoR004]

Originally Posted by Dave R

I agree. That said, a good start would be to allow paid overnight stays at town docks. I spent some time on my boat in the 1000 Islands area this Summer and it was eye-opening. The port towns there do everything they can to make it boater-friendly and it was such a treat. Every town allowed limited-stay overnight docking (for a fee) and provided nice showers and bathrooms. Winnipesaukee port towns should do the same. It would help businesses, create jobs and generate revenue for the towns. It would also make for better utilization of existing facilities and likely prevent many BUI instances. Noise ordinances would be pathetically easy to enforce too, because the local PD could do so from shore. I can't think of a down side.

Brilliant idea, agree 100%. How do we start a petition?

[Happy Gourmand]

Originally Posted by Dave R

I agree. That said, a good start would be to allow paid overnight stays at town docks. I spent some time on my boat in the 1000 Islands area this Summer and it was eye-opening. The port towns there do everything they can to make it boater-friendly and it was such a treat. Every town allowed limited-stay overnight docking (for a fee) and provided nice showers and bathrooms. Winnipesaukee port towns should do the same. It would help businesses, create jobs and generate revenue for the towns. It would also make for better utilization of existing facilities and likely prevent many BUI instances. Noise ordinances would be pathetically easy to enforce too, because the local PD could do so from shore. I can't think of a down side.

Playing devil's advocate a bit, what if the overnighters stayed all day and took up valuable dock space that would prevent the rest of us to dock for a couple of hours and spend some money locally? It's pretty difficult now to get dock space on the weekends, wouldn't this just make it harder?

[Onshore]

The key would be limited overnight docking.

[Greene's Basin Girl]

Originally Posted by Happy Gourmand

Playing devil's advocate a bit, what if the overnighters stayed all day and took up valuable dock space that would prevent the rest of us to dock for a couple of hours and spend some money locally? It's pretty difficult now to get dock space on the weekends, wouldn't this just make it harder?

I totally agree with you. We have a pontoon boat and it is almost impossible to get dock space.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by Happy Gourmand

Playing devil's advocate a bit, what if the overnighters stayed all day and took up valuable dock space that would prevent the rest of us to dock for a couple of hours and spend some money locally? It's pretty difficult now to get dock space on the weekends, wouldn't this just make it harder?

In the 1000 Islands area, the town docks have 3 hour time limits for free docking, so if you have a limit for the number of paid nights one could stay, and a limit for the amount of time one can stay for free during the day (this already exists), the problem solves itself. Have the overnight period start at 8 PM and end at 8 AM, stays during the other 12 hours of the day count toward the limited daytime stay.

[Happy Gourmand]

we are hijacking Cate's thread. If we continue, let it be in a new one.
Apologies to Cate