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Old 07-17-2015, 09:28 AM   #1
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Seems like he's leading in the polls right now.......must be doing something right.
The fact that Trump is leading the polls just tells you how easily people are manipulated.
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The fact that Trump is leading the polls just tells you how easily people are manipulated.
....that's how we got the current incumbent....TWICE.
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Lol, this thread has a huge flame out potential, I wish I could have seen Trump, but I knew it would be mobbed. Big goings on at the Lake.
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....that's how we got the current incumbent....TWICE.
Completely agree.
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I missed the chance to Booooooooo him in person...shucks!
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Did anyone notice what the upside down sign held by the guy in the middle of the second picture said?
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Did anyone notice what the upside down sign held by the guy in the middle of the second picture said?
Something along the lines of "MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".
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....that's how we got the current incumbent....TWICE.
It's too bad Mitt didn't win last time around. The country really needs a center right candidate. The left was able to use his success against him despite all the taxes he has paid and the good he has done for the disenfranchised. Very sad. Folks still fall for joe Biden and his $3200 of annual charitable contributions.

I'd vote for trump over anyone on the Democratic side at this juncture. At least he is honest. You might not like what he has to say but he speaks from his heart. God bless America.
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It's too bad Mitt didn't win last time around. The country really needs a center right candidate. The left was able to use his success against him despite all the taxes he has paid and the good he has done for the disenfranchised. Very sad. Folks still fall for joe Biden and his $3200 of annual charitable contributions.

I'd vote for trump over anyone on the Democratic side at this juncture. At least he is honest. You might not like what he has to say but he speaks from his heart. God bless America.
..that you will vote for Trump. Especially when he goes the 3rd party route. Pretty please?
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I love threads like this! I'm always intrigued by which reality that people's perspective is filtered through. Most for better or worse usually have hard time listening to any opinion different from their own. Again ....for better or worse... you at least know what the Donald is all about. He's not hiding anything. It remains to be seen if the country is fed up enough with the current conditions to make a drastic change in direction. I haven't decided on my candidate yet but I love this stuff and follow it closely!!!

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When he attacked John McCain for his service, when he didn't serve, he's dead to veteran voters.
And veterans do tend to vote.
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That must be why Obama the mystery man beat McCain the war hero in '08, right?
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That must be why Obama the mystery man beat McCain the war hero in '08, right?
The problem is more "low information" voters showed up to vote than veterans.

But the much larger problem is the low information community is multiplying!
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The problem is more "low information" voters showed up to vote than veterans.

But the much larger problem is the low information community is multiplying!
If my candidate wins it's because of the low information voter. If your candidate wins it's because voters are more educated now.
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EXACTLY! Glad you got it and that you understand! You have a fantastic grasp for the obvious!
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The difference between John McCain and Donald Trump is Trump shot himself down!
Here's another notable difference between the two...
Trump was granted 5 deferments to avoid serving our country. McCain was awarded 5 of the nation's highest military honors...The Silver Star, the Bronze Star, the Legion Of Merit, the Purple Heart and the Distinguished Flying Cross.
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And, John MCCain has a few things to say about Donald Trump: http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...t-donald-trump

....it's probably all done for the Donald with his shooting his mouth off on John MCCain's military service? ..... oh well .....the election is over a year away, in November 2017.

Here's another interesting item in the link to the New Yorker magazine ..... you can click on "Trump Says He Heroically Avoided Capture in Vietnam by Staying in the U.S." and actually drew some applause with that line in Iowa.

..... hmmmm .... not the lines you expect to hear from a serious candidate....it's probably time to stick a fork into the Donald ... because he is done. Mr Donald ..... you are fired!
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....it's probably all done for the Donald with his shooting his mouth off on John MCCain's military service? ..... oh well .....the election is over a year away, in November 2017.
Looks like you will miss the election if you use "November 2017" as the date.
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Obviously we'll all never agree on the subject of politics but I would hope that we would not make disparaging comments to others who hold different views. I just enjoy hearing about any of the candidates who visit the Lakes Region, regardless of their party or politics.
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Obviously we'll all never agree on the subject of politics but I would hope that we would not make disparaging comments to others who hold different views. I just enjoy hearing about any of the candidates who visit the Lakes Region, regardless of their party or politics.
So right, Everyone with the snied remarks, how about using your supperior intelect, not let a party" that obviously cares more about the party and power" decide how you should think. I don't understand why everyone isn't an independant.
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Obviously we'll all never agree on the subject of politics but I would hope that we would not make disparaging comments to others who hold different views. I just enjoy hearing about any of the candidates who visit the Lakes Region, regardless of their party or politics.
Well said LadyJane. I hope we never have a thread about politics.
Everyone seems to get along so well on this forum it would be a shame to get everyone arguing. Seen it on other forums and it's not pretty.
(Guess we have to forgive FLL for his occaisional reference to the "evil republicans")
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Y'know, a TV personality called Trump, "A rodeo clown".

I thought that was an insult , until I realized the lifesaving-importance of rodeo clowns.



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We have 4 retired U.S. army generals that are friends of the family as the result of my mom marrying a retired colonel when they were both in their 70's. After his passing my mom kept in touch through the son of the 3 star in the group. In 2008, with great surprise, each of the 4 independently chose to vote for a skinny black kid with a middle name of hussein. They all gave the exact same 2 word reason why they would do such a thing. "Sarah Palin".
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We have 4 retired U.S. army generals that are friends of the family as the result of my mom marrying a retired colonel when they were both in their 70's. After his passing my mom kept in touch through the son of the 3 star in the group. In 2008, with great surprise, each of the 4 independently chose to vote for a skinny black kid with a middle name of hussein. They all gave the exact same 2 word reason why they would do such a thing. "Sarah Palin".
And they wanted this as a president instead of that incredibly remote possibility as a vice.

They must be in a different army than what I am used to.

Troll....
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Don't you know that some people have all the luck ...... and the Donald lucked out big on Dec 1, 1969, when he lucked into receiving #356 out of a possible 365 in the first Vietnam draft lottery..... which basically guaranteed that he would not be selected for military service.
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We have 4 retired U.S. army generals that are friends of the family as the result of my mom marrying a retired colonel when they were both in their 70's. After his passing my mom kept in touch through the son of the 3 star in the group. In 2008, with great surprise, each of the 4 independently chose to vote for a skinny black kid with a middle name of hussein. They all gave the exact same 2 word reason why they would do such a thing. "Sarah Palin".
Kawishiwi: the real question is would they vote for Obama again if they could go back in time? I'm pretty sure the answer is a resounding NO.
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Kawishiwi: the real question is would they vote for Obama again if they could go back in time? I'm pretty sure the answer is a resounding NO.
Whole point of the story is that these guys were not political for politics sake. They are hard core natl security voters but they are, well were, professionals that dealt with that reality. EVERYONE that knows them were surprised. Palin was to them a real enough risk to change their vote. Veterans are not monolithically republicans. I believe the breakdown is around 60/40 for republicans.
The Colonel himself was a republican. Cant really call him "stepfather" as I was 41 when I met him. He would discount Kerry's purple heart while pumping up my nephew's first even when his wound was a more minor one than Kerrys. Despite his leanings he came to see Cheney as a bad actor regarding Iraq. The REALITY is more complicated than the partisan and childish stuff that often rolls out in threads like this.

However, I still gotta say this fascination with Trump for President is astonishingly funny to me. My apologies to anyone who took offense.
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Wait a minute. Wasn't Chrisite walking down the main street during the July 4th parade? How is he any different. He has more than once slammed this guy. Only because Chrisite will not give him an answer on the question he keeps asking. He went as far as having him removed from one of his meetings.


Chris Christie calls former Navy SEAL an ‘idiot’

http://www.rawstory.com/2012/03/chri...seal-an-idiot/
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That must be why Obama the mystery man beat McCain the war hero in '08, right?
The point is vets won't vote for him so he can't win the primary.
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When he attacked John McCain for his service, when he didn't serve, he's dead to veteran voters.
And veterans do tend to vote.
I understand dead veterans vote Democrat... will they chose the Bern or Killery?
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Am honestly having a tough time deciding between The Donald and Hillary in next Tuesday's primary. Donald really makes me laugh ...... just like the late, great Rodney Dangerfield ...... another New Yorker .... Rodney had a delivery somewhat similar to The Donald .... plus Donald Trump also says a lot of things that honestly, really connect with me.


Will definitely vote for Hillary in the general election in November....but just may go with Donald in the primary just to help him along ....and keep him in this race.


Let's go Donald-NEW HAMPSHIRE .....go Donald go! ..... hut-hut-hut .... and who will pay to build that wall?


And, it is definitely best not to believe everything that either Donald or Bernie says ........ so much pie-in-the sky, Bernie!
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Am honestly having a tough time deciding between The Donald and Hillary in next Tuesday's primary. Donald really makes me laugh ...... just like the late, great Rodney Dangerfield ...... another New Yorker .... Rodney had a delivery somewhat similar to The Donald .... plus Donald Trump also says a lot of things that honestly, really connect with me.


Will definitely vote for Hillary in the general election in November....but just may go with Donald in the primary just to help him along ....and keep him in this race.


Let's go Donald-NEW HAMPSHIRE .....go Donald go! ..... hut-hut-hut .... and who will pay to build that wall?


And, it is definitely best not to believe everything that either Donald or Bernie says ........ so much pie-in-the sky, Bernie!
But yet you'll believe anything that Clinton says? Forget Walmart and Lowes, FLL. You should promptly go to LRGH to have your head examined.
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.....and one more thing about Hillary ...... when she gets elected, she wants to make a three dollar bill for the first time ever in U.S. history, and put Bill Clinton on it ....... a 'three dollar Bill'!

......nice thing about voting for Hillary is u getta a two for one deal ..... vote for Hillary and u getta Bill coming along for the ride! ....remember Bill?
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.....and one more thing about Hillary ...... when she gets elected, she wants to make a three dollar bill for the first time ever in U.S. history, and put Bill Clinton on it ....... a 'three dollar Bill'!

......nice thing about voting for Hillary is u getta a two for one deal ..... vote for Hillary and u getta Bill coming along for the ride! ....remember Bill?
Honestly Walter I would have thought you were going with Bernie. All that FREE STUFF has got to make your mouth water.
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......not me.....will go with the real deal....Hillary is the one....very smart...good communication skills....been there before.....knows all about Wash DC ....while Bernie is an old Vermont hippie-dippie who is totally pie-in-the sky...
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Being from NJ, I can honestly say that Christie is the worst governor we have ever had. Since he has been in office, NJ has declined in all areas. Just letting my NH friends in on the truth about him.
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It's too bad Mitt didn't win last time around. The country really needs a center right candidate. The left was able to use his success against him despite all the taxes he has paid and the good he has done for the disenfranchised. Very sad. Folks still fall for joe Biden and his $3200 of annual charitable contributions.

I'd vote for trump over anyone on the Democratic side at this juncture. At least he is honest. You might not like what he has to say but he speaks from his heart. God bless America.
The Republicans don't have 3 major networks, PBS and most of the newspapers lying for them and spinning and pushing everything in their direction.

That's why we have who we have in there today - and to some degree why we have the senate we have.
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The Republicans don't have 3 major networks, PBS and most of the newspapers lying for them and spinning and pushing everything in their direction.

That's why we have who we have in there today - and to some degree why we have the senate we have.
I think very little of this matters when compared to social media--it took two seconds for Romney's percent-on-the-system comment and Trump's McCain comments to go viral.

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The two things that I like about Trump are that he is not a career DC politician and he is not afraid to say what many think. With that said, he needs to learn how to rephrase his thoughts because they do not come out smooth enough. Republicans do not get a do over or a here is what I really meant chance. I would love to see a President who is not afraid of political correctness. There are many hard truths that need to be brought to the surface and dealt with. Though I'm not sure that America is ready to rip off the band-aid yet.

Our government is supposed to be by the people and for the people. We have allowed for it to become a government for those who can buy it. It is OUR fault. Vote them ALL out and start giving the regular folks a chance at representing us. That was the whole point in the first place, right?

Trump may not be the prime choice but NO more Clinton's or Bush's!!!!

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I think very little of this matters when compared to social media--it took two seconds for Romney's percent-on-the-system comment and Trump's McCain comments to go viral.
If you judge who watches the evening news by what commercials they run...it's all old people on prescriptions and people who need help with certain bodily functions. Whereas a recent "on the street" poll I saw recently had many people saying they get all their news from FACEBOOK!!!

"low information voters" will be the death of a once great nation.
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If you judge who watches the evening news by what commercials they run...it's all old people on prescriptions and people who need help with certain bodily functions. Whereas a recent "on the street" poll I saw recently had many people saying they get all their news from FACEBOOK!!!

"low information voters" will be the death of a once great nation.
Low information voters and party lemmings.
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I think very little of this matters when compared to social media--it took two seconds for Romney's percent-on-the-system comment and Trump's McCain comments to go viral.

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Again, I do think it's largely the liberal media. For instance, Romney's comment about the "47%" is probably essentially correct. For me, I didn't have any problem with it.

Of course the media, pushing for the left wing, would immediately jump on this as a negative and give it as much publicity as possible. But you never hear much about Biden or other lefties who make totally stupid comments. "Nothing to see here folks, move along" when it comes to this.

Why the media is so far to the left is a total mystery to me; one would think that intelligent people would have some idea of common sense, human nature and history. Maybe it is just blind idealism. I know a lot of really smart people who fall into this....
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The "media" are where you perceive them to be.

There are left-wingers and right-wingers all over the radio and cable television. If one hears what one agrees with, it gets a nod and one moves on.
If one hears what one disagrees with, one gets up in arms and denounces the proponent and the particular medium which is carrying the "information".

Such is life.
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The "media" are where you perceive them to be.

There are left-wingers and right-wingers all over the radio and cable television. If one hears what one agrees with, it gets a nod and one moves on.
If one hears what one disagrees with, one gets up in arms and denounces the proponent and the particular medium which is carrying the "information".

Such is life.
It would be nice if the media were balanced, however they are not and you cannot get a balanced picture. For instance, for my situation here - there is no cable TV - we get the "big 3" and PBS. ALL of those are quite liberal in their bias in presenting the "news" (often editorialized), much of which should actually fall under the "entertainment" category anyway, but that's another story.

A lot of talk radio is conservative, but I don't know too many women who listen to talk (yes, there are some, but it's largely a male audience), so there's a big portion of the voter base being fed the leftie line from the big 3 because of course that is a "trusted" source.

Then of course there are the newspapers. Any biggies like the Boston Globe, NY Times, etc conservative? None that I know of around here.

The amazing thing, is that I know real couple in New Hampshire who WILL NOT EVER VOTE FOR ANY REPUBLICAN because they absolutely believe "The Republicans" want to take away social security. Their main news source? CNN. These folks are actually conservative in their core beliefs, but have been completely brainwashed by whatever lies or distortions CNN is putting out there.

When I asked them - did you actually hear a real recording or see any video of any Republican saying they wanted to eliminate social security, or did you hear a "news" person say this. The latter was the answer.

Just amazing !
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And this is why political parties are evil because anyone who wins said nomination of party X or Y now becomes enslaved to their 'platform' and sadly is unable to say or do what they think is best without running it through the prism of whatever party they belong to.

You'd like to think potential candidates are measured on the merit of their stated objectives and beliefs, not judged based on political party affiliation.
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Hummm.. went to see him talk last night in Laconia. What cracked me up is the sign on the podium..


Really... "Fighting for us"... as Opposed to "Fighting for You" or maybe even "Fighting for US" meaning United States

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So did he convince you to vote for his wife, or are you firmly committed to Bernie.
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The fact that Trump is leading the polls just tells you how easily people are manipulated.
In on the first page.
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