Boating Gas Tax Refund - Time to do away with

That Guy · 06-23-2015, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tis

I think what they are hoping is that most people won't be bothered to apply for the refund so the gov. has extra taxes. I know I don't bother. I did years ago, but stopped and never did again. And we burn a lot of gas especially with the big boat. I would like to know what the percentage is, but my bet is most people don't apply for the refund.

Sounds like any other .gov operation to me. Put in as many hoops as possible until opportunity costs exceeds total amount given back.

Sue Doe-Nym · 06-23-2015, 03:30 PM

Speaking of refunds, I'm still waiting for my refund that I sent in back in March. Seems like a good way to discourage people from sending in the paper work. There are better ways but the state would not receive as much revenue.

Monarch Vu · 06-23-2015, 06:11 PM

Gas tax paperwork went in around Feb. , still waiting.

Descant · 06-26-2015, 02:00 PM

The tax refund is really not aimed at boaters. They are only a part of the off road sales. More goes to construction vehicles, farm equipment etc. If you snowmobile or have an ATV, you might also track that and get a refund, but you rarely buy from a dock.
There is a formula in statute estimating the amount of fuel sold and the amount where no refund is requested. The result of that calculation goes to Fish and Game. The rest goes to the general fund, which among other things, supports the Department of Safety and the Department of Environmental Services. These two departments are pretty interested in safe, clean lakes.

A few years ago, there was a requirement to file for these refunds quarterly. That meant, for example filing June 30 for that one spring fill up that month, and three more times throughout the year. HB1418-FN changed that to the April 15 deadline. That was the same bill that made it possible to donate your refund to the Navigation Safety Fund or to Lakes Preservation.

The quarterly filing for trucks, etc. meant getting your big refunds sooner and I think that remains in place.

Greene's Basin Girl · 06-27-2015, 12:21 AM

I buy my gas for my PWC at gas stations. I keep those slips and also send those in with my other receipts from marina's.

TiltonBB · 06-27-2015, 06:42 PM

What surprised me (and maybe it shouldn't have) was when I sent my refund paperwork in before the end of the year. I got it all back with a letter telling me that I couldn't submit it before January 1st. Do you think it might have been more efficient for the state to just hold the papers and process them after January 1st?

This'nThat · 06-27-2015, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB

What surprised me (and maybe it shouldn't have) was when I sent my refund paperwork in before the end of the year. I got it all back with a letter telling me that I couldn't submit it before January 1st. Do you think it might have been more efficient for the state to just hold the papers and process them after January 1st?

Efficient Government?
Falls into the same category as Military Intelligence, or Jumbo Shrimp. An oxymoron.

06-23-2015, 06:11 PM	#3
Monarch Vu Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	still waiting too Gas tax paperwork went in around Feb. , still waiting.

06-26-2015, 02:00 PM	#4
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,597 Thanks: 1,418 Thanked 1,705 Times in 1,109 Posts	Off Road tax The tax refund is really not aimed at boaters. They are only a part of the off road sales. More goes to construction vehicles, farm equipment etc. If you snowmobile or have an ATV, you might also track that and get a refund, but you rarely buy from a dock. There is a formula in statute estimating the amount of fuel sold and the amount where no refund is requested. The result of that calculation goes to Fish and Game. The rest goes to the general fund, which among other things, supports the Department of Safety and the Department of Environmental Services. These two departments are pretty interested in safe, clean lakes. A few years ago, there was a requirement to file for these refunds quarterly. That meant, for example filing June 30 for that one spring fill up that month, and three more times throughout the year. HB1418-FN changed that to the April 15 deadline. That was the same bill that made it possible to donate your refund to the Navigation Safety Fund or to Lakes Preservation. The quarterly filing for trucks, etc. meant getting your big refunds sooner and I think that remains in place.

06-27-2015, 06:42 PM	#6
TiltonBB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilford, NH and Florida Posts: 3,160 Thanks: 749 Thanked 2,277 Times in 986 Posts	Government at Work What surprised me (and maybe it shouldn't have) was when I sent my refund paperwork in before the end of the year. I got it all back with a letter telling me that I couldn't submit it before January 1st. Do you think it might have been more efficient for the state to just hold the papers and process them after January 1st?

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06-23-2015, 03:30 PM	#2
Sue Doe-Nym Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 759 Thanked 796 Times in 419 Posts	Speaking of refunds, I'm still waiting for my refund that I sent in back in March. Seems like a good way to discourage people from sending in the paper work. There are better ways but the state would not receive as much revenue.

06-27-2015, 12:21 AM	#5
Greene's Basin Girl Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 1,515 Thanks: 394 Thanked 527 Times in 269 Posts	I buy my gas for my PWC at gas stations. I keep those slips and also send those in with my other receipts from marina's.