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Old 11-12-2014, 02:15 PM   #1
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It is not that a vocal minority rules for the majority.... its that the majority is usually silent and doesn't really give a crap until whatever freedom/privilege/right is taken away. But by then its too late...

I have NO problem with No Wake Zones when it comes to safety.... most (not all) on Lake Winni are there for safety concerns. Others like the NWZ at the end of Meredith Bay kind of bug me. It was placed there for economic reasons (thanks to Rusty McClear & NH Hospitality) to benefit their business. There is no reason safety wise, that NWZ has to be so large.

I have a HUGE problem with No Rafting Zones.... They take away a resource and a freedom enjoyed by the PUBLIC to benefit PRIVATE property owners. In my opinion NRZ's should be abolished!

The Speed limit is what it is... it passed, they won. But just like on the highways, people tend to ignore it somewhat when they can...

The noise laws on the books now are sufficient. They were established with input from Boat builders, State & Federal governments. I don't think you will see a change in those anytime soon. If there were to be change... the current boats would be grandfathered anyway.

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Old 11-12-2014, 03:41 PM   #2
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I have NO problem with No Wake Zones when it comes to safety.... most (not all) on Lake Winni are there for safety concerns. Others like the NWZ at the end of Meredith Bay kind of bug me. It was placed there for economic reasons (thanks to Rusty McClear & NH Hospitality) to benefit their business. There is no reason safety wise, that NWZ has to be so large.

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Woodsy - I tend to Agree with ALL of your points made .... well stated.

As for the NWZ in Meredith Bay (which I totally agree covers an expansive & needless amount of the Bay) --- I was always of the belief that it was enacted as a result of the infamous & tragic boating incident many years back -- Cigarette boat vs. 22' Sea Ray one summer evening.



But now that you introduce the McClear element is makes all kinds of sense that they pushed for it to hold the waves & such down at the Church Landing slips and Gazebo area

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If the forum is any example then the vocal minority, the ones yelling and screaming that their right to be loud etc, outweighs their rights. As if the GFBL crowd has a God given birthright to "live free or die". Thank God you are in the minority but your minority voices are surely the loudest!
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If the forum is any example then the vocal minority, the ones yelling and screaming that their right to be loud etc, outweighs their rights. As if the GFBL crowd has a God given birthright to "live free or die". Thank God you are in the minority but your minority voices are surely the loudest!
I think you need to spend some time re-reading this forum, particularly the threads relative to noise.

Every boat on this lake meets the noise limits established through RSA. Boats that do not are subject to enforcement. You may not like the decibel level established, but your fight is in Concord, not here.

And there is no GFBL "crowd"

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I think you need to spend some time re-reading this forum, particularly the threads relative to noise.

Every boat on this lake meets the noise limits established through RSA. Boats that do not are subject to enforcement. You may not like the decibel level established, but your fight is in Concord, not here.

And there is no GFBL "crowd"

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First: it is soooooo easy to get the GFBL crowd a on their soapbox and declare their rights are superior to those who prefer less noise and less speed. I agree that the speed issue is MOOT! So no need to go there....then again I think this post started with someone complaining about speed and noise in their cove AND the only way to deal with the would be a NWZ. I too hate the NWZ...but that is life as a boater...so I deal and try and understand without getting my panties all in a twist.

Second: No, not all boats meet the noise limits but that was not my point. BTW read the last thread on all this stuff and you will find people stating how much they enjoy the noise....and that is fine....I do not and that is fine but do not bitch when MP enforces the law! I do not want to deprive people of the right to enjoy the lake as long as your "right" does not crush my right.
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First: it is soooooo easy to get the GFBL crowd a on their soapbox and declare their rights are superior to those who prefer less noise and less speed. I agree that the speed issue is MOOT! So no need to go there....then again I think this post started with someone complaining about speed and noise in their cove AND the only way to deal with the would be a NWZ. I too hate the NWZ...but that is life as a boater...so I deal and try and understand without getting my panties all in a twist.

Second: No, not all boats meet the noise limits but that was not my point. BTW read the last thread on all this stuff and you will find people stating how much they enjoy the noise....and that is fine....I do not and that is fine but do not bitch when MP enforces the law! I do not want to deprive people of the right to enjoy the lake as long as your "right" does not crush my right.
You just created your own soapbox as a non-GFBL supporter...
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First: it is soooooo easy to get the GFBL crowd a on their soapbox and declare their rights are superior to those who prefer less noise and less speed. I agree that the speed issue is MOOT! So no need to go there....then again I think this post started with someone complaining about speed and noise in their cove AND the only way to deal with the would be a NWZ. I too hate the NWZ...but that is life as a boater...so I deal and try and understand without getting my panties all in a twist.

Second: No, not all boats meet the noise limits but that was not my point. BTW read the last thread on all this stuff and you will find people stating how much they enjoy the noise....and that is fine....I do not and that is fine but do not bitch when MP enforces the law! I do not want to deprive people of the right to enjoy the lake as long as your "right" does not crush my right.
You should hear my boat with its thru prop hub exhaust. So loud

Classy... "panties in a bunch" and "bitching" in one post!
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