Fuller Oil and Propane

[fpartri497]

I just got got raped by Energy North propane for $4.86 a gal. for 50 gal. of propane. because I only fill the tank once a year

[jeffk]

After last year, running out of oil once and almost a second time, we recently switched to Stafford.

When I saw this article I thought, "Thank God we are out of that mess." Sprague energy kept saying last winter that it wasn't a supply problem, they had the oil. Now we can see it was a payments problem. In the end, it doesn't matter. Who wants to be connected to an unreliable supplier who is getting sued for non payment of bills (amongst other things)?

If you are thinking about switching, now is the time to do it, not in the middle of winter when other suppliers have already made their fuel arrangements and may have less ability to absorb new customers.

[HellRaZoR004]

Originally Posted by fpartri497

I just got got raped by Energy North propane for $4.86 a gal. for 50 gal. of propane. because I only fill the tank once a year

You leave a 0 out? 50 or 500 gallons? 4.86 per is a lot though.

[jeffk]

I heard that Fuller can only pick up oil from the terminal if they come with cash in hand, no credit. If true, that's going to be a problem as the season goes on, especially if there is a cold snap and he doesn't have the payments yet to cover the next buy.

[secondcurve]

HUDSON, N.H. —The major supplier for Fred Fuller Oil is suing the company, saying it owes millions of dollars.


Sprague Energy said Fred Fuller Oil owes nearly $5 million for oil that Fuller picked up. Spraque said Fuller secured the contract with its fleet of more than 100 delivery vehicles.

The lawsuit comes after problems Fuller had last winter, when hundreds of customers complained about delivery delays. Senior Assistant Attorney General Jim Boffetti, the state's consumer bureau chief, said he's worried what the lawsuit could mean.

"We just know a lawsuit's been filed, but if (Fuller) were to be having problems, that would present some serious challenges to this entire state," Boffetti said.

Fuller's problems last year involved customers not getting oil they bought before the season began. Boffetti said most of those problems were resolved.

"At the end of the season, some people were owed money on their pre-buy contracts, and my understanding is that most of that has been repaid to the customers," he said.

Boffetti said he's still awaiting answers, not just about customers who might have pre-bought again, but in light of the lawsuit, how Fuller will get oil at all.

"Thirty thousand customers are all relying on Fred Fuller and his infrastructure, so his delivery trucks, his big tankers that go to Newington and pick up the oil, his storage facilities -- all of that provides him a capacity to deliver a huge amount of oil to a large customer base," Boffetti said. "So if that were to stop, then the question is, how could customers find a reliable source of home heating oil?"

Boffetti said customers should make their heating decisions carefully.

"Customers have to make their own best decisions for their own homes, but this is a serious matter that raises serious questions," he said.

Boffetti said he is waiting for a call back from Fred Fuller's attorney. News 9 did not hear back from the attorney either.

A spokesperson for Sprague Energy returned News 9's call but refused to comment.

A hearing on the lawsuit is set for Oct. 28.

[YFM700]

Originally Posted by jeffk

I heard that Fuller can only pick up oil from the terminal if they come with cash in hand, no credit. If true, that's going to be a problem as the season goes on, especially if there is a cold snap and he doesn't have the payments yet to cover the next buy.

This would make sense. My office is almost across the street from Sprague in Newington. Instead of going in and out of the terminal freely like all the other tankers, the FF tankers will sit on the side of the road and wait for 3 or 4 of them to all go in together. Sometimes they just sit there for hours, presumably waiting for a check to clear? I first noticed this practice shortly after their troubles began in early 2014.

[LakeSnake]

Thank you to those who have provided the recent updates on the Fuller situation. I have been a long time customer of Fuller but after reading the above I think it's time for a change. Can anyone make a recomendation for a replacement fuel company (Oil) that delivers to the Alton area?

Any advise/reviews much appreciated.

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by YFM700

This would make sense. My office is almost across the street from Sprague in Newington. Instead of going in and out of the terminal freely like all the other tankers, the FF tankers will sit on the side of the road and wait for 3 or 4 of them to all go in together. Sometimes they just sit there for hours, presumably waiting for a check to clear? I first noticed this practice shortly after their troubles began in early 2014.

Great info! I am down at Westinghouse in Newington often and will have to look for that.

Now I have to figure out my "oil guy" and move away from Fuller.