T-Bones, Patrick's & Lyons Den

[jrc]

What I noticed and complained about before is exactly the opposite at Patrick's. They seem to have poor service during slow times. I've been there on a hopping Saturday night, great food, great service. But went for a late lunch at 3pm on a Wednesday, painful, definitely got the "B" team. I know a lot of places used to close between lunch and dinner, but they have the bar.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by jrc

What I noticed and complained about before is exactly the opposite at Patrick's. They seem to have poor service during slow times. I've been there on a hopping Saturday night, great food, great service. But went for a late lunch at 3pm on a Wednesday, painful, definitely got the "B" team. I know a lot of places used to close between lunch and dinner, but they have the bar.

That has been our experience as well. Only 2 visits, both during non-peak hours, both times resulting in an experience that probably won't lead to a 3rd visit.

[Dave R]

How are the prices at Lyons Den? Thinking about dinner by boat Friday evening, will I be able to get dock space?

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by Dave R

How are the prices at Lyons Den? Thinking about dinner by boat Friday evening, will I be able to get dock space?

Prices are reasonable and food is great! Dock space is limited to dock #1 only (far right as viewed from water) unless you are a Gilford island resident. Be sure not to park in the unload only areas also. These are clearly marked on the uprights. I think you will be O.K. on Friday, go a little early 6:00ish if possible. Best to make reservations.

Enjoy!

Dan

[BroadHopper]

I would reserve ahead for a window seat. Friday nights are packed!

As for dock space, unless you have a Gilford sticker, space is very limited.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

I would reserve ahead for a window seat. Friday nights are packed!

As for dock space, unless you have a Gilford sticker, space is very limited.

Limited dock space means I don't want to make a reservation (and have nowhere to tie up...). Gonna grill some shrimp and steak on the boat instead.

[fpartri497]

went there about 5:30 last night for dinner. was seated Immediately even though the place was packed with concert goers.then the wait. 49 min. after we placed our order for food, we got our medioca dinner. It was nothing to write home about but not horrible.

This was the second time this Mth. this has happened to us. Mgr. told us Its because of the concerts. don't have enough staff to handle. I said shame on you. not sure If I will go back or not

[Bumble2249]

Originally Posted by fpartri497

went there about 5:30 last night for dinner. was seated Immediately even though the place was packed with concert goers.then the wait. 49 min. after we placed our order for food, we got our medioca dinner. It was nothing to write home about but not horrible.

This was the second time this Mth. this has happened to us. Mgr. told us Its because of the concerts. don't have enough staff to handle. I said shame on you. not sure If I will go back or not

Eat Local.


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[jrc]

CJ = Cactus Jacks = local restaurant

What are you talking about?

[BroadHopper]

CJ's is a zoo, noisy and totally different atmosphere. I have better luck upstairs (T-Bones).

I can't understand why the management will not allow CJ menu upstairs and vice versa. I also found I can't order beer served downstairs, upstairs and vice versa.

[Bumble2249]

Originally Posted by jrc

CJ = Cactus Jacks = local restaurant



What are you talking about?

Really??? Local restaurant means a restaurant owned by a LOCAL. Not a corporation.


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[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by Bumble2249

Really??? Local restaurant means a restaurant owned by a LOCAL. Not a corporation.


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Sorry, but eat local means different things to different people. You probably should refrain some from disparaging other restaurants when you obviously are in the business locally.

Which restaurant do you work at?

Any wise restaurateur incorporates

[Bumble2249]

Originally Posted by VitaBene

Sorry, but eat local means different things to different people. You probably should refrain some from disparaging other restaurants when you obviously are in the business locally.

Which restaurant do you work at?

Any wise restaurateur incorporates

Sorry but I don't work at any restaurant. Eat local, shop local, support local business owners. Does that make sense? Maybe I'm out of line and I'm sure you'll let me know, but like to eat at locally owned establishments. Just like I would shop at my local grocer rather than the big box store.


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[BroadHopper]

In my mind a local business is owned by local natives. The Lyons Den owners may live locally but they are not local natives. My 2 cents.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

In my mind a local business is owned by local natives. The Lyons Den owners may live locally but they are not local natives. My 2 cents.

If you put a little more thought into it, you might be able to come up with even more specific qualifications.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by Bumble2249

Sorry but I don't work at any restaurant. Eat local, shop local, support local business owners. Does that make sense? Maybe I'm out of line and I'm sure you'll let me know, but like to eat at locally owned establishments. Just like I would shop at my local grocer rather than the big box store.

IMO, I think the whole "local" thing is a bit of scam or misdirection sometimes. I've seen plenty of "local" business owners run a skeleton crew, and then take their profits to buy a nice place in Naples, where they spend the majority of the earnings from the business.

The employees of a "big box store" are locals, and are usually spending their paycheck in the local community. It's not like these stores are siphoning money out of the community, and in many cases they are able to create MORE jobs and availability of products or services than similar local businesses could.

There is this perception that local business means everything is staying within the community, when frequently that is not really the case.

When it comes to eating, I'm generally not a fan of large franchised outlets in general. But, I'm not making my decisions based on a misconception of where the profits are going.

[Bumble2249]

Originally Posted by brk-lnt

IMO, I think the whole "local" thing is a bit of scam or misdirection sometimes. I've seen plenty of "local" business owners run a skeleton crew, and then take their profits to buy a nice place in Naples, where they spend the majority of the earnings from the business.



The employees of a "big box store" are locals, and are usually spending their paycheck in the local community. It's not like these stores are siphoning money out of the community, and in many cases they are able to create MORE jobs and availability of products or services than similar local businesses could.



There is this perception that local business means everything is staying within the community, when frequently that is not really the case.



When it comes to eating, I'm generally not a fan of large franchised outlets in general. But, I'm not making my decisions based on a misconception of where the profits are going.

Yeah it's a constant debate over the big box vs the small town guy. I get that. But I have witnessed many times the big guys come into a small community and put multiple business's out of business. As I'm sure you have seen as well. Maybe I'm just that guy who enjoys supporting the business that's owned and run by a local family rather than the big conglomerate that even though their sales pitch to the community might be that of more jobs, they still take their profit and shuttle it back to the big home office and it goes from there.

[Chaselady]

I really don't care who owns a business. If the food is "outstanding" and is offered by a family from somewhere else, I don't care. I go out to have a good dinner. If a local can't provide it, and an outsider does, guess where I will leave my money?

[Bumble2249]

Originally Posted by Chaselady

I really don't care who owns a business. If the food is "outstanding" and is offered by a family from somewhere else, I don't care. I go out to have a good dinner. If a local can't provide it, and an outsider does, guess where I will leave my money?

That's an awesome way of thinking...

[fpartri497]

when I go out to dinner or any other meal at a restrauint, I don't give a hoot who owns It as long as the food & service are good,

[Resident 2B]

Originally Posted by Bumble2249

Really??? Local restaurant means a restaurant owned by a LOCAL. Not a corporation.



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It may mean that to you, but it does not mean that to me. To me, eat local means eat close to where you are staying. I could care less who owns it. If it is good, I go there. That said, best around the Lanocia/Gilford area is Lyon's Den, in my opinion. It happens to be owned by local folks who do a great job.

R2B