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Old 01-29-2014, 01:18 PM   #1
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I checked out the link but am still out on a decision. I noticed several discrepancies in comparing with Bizer's laminated chart and personal knowledge of certain areas. Several red/black top buoys are missing or not in right location. What I have always known as Blueberry Island is shown as Minister Island. Lighted/numbered buoys are not numbered. Several markers in the Dockham Shore/Governors Island area are definitely not where I know they are.I know its a little thing if I already know the area but if a known area is misrepresented, what happens if I am in an unfamiliar area? I guess if I can not get the Bizer card I want, I will have to settle for the best that I can find, or suck it up and upgrade from a unit I haven't even received yet to a unit that will take a Bizer card.
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I checked out the link... Snip... I know its a little thing if I already know the area but if a known area is misrepresented, what happens if I am in an unfamiliar area? I guess if I can not get the Bizer card I want, I will have to settle for the best that I can find, or suck it up and upgrade from a unit I haven't even received yet to a unit that will take a Bizer card.

I agree,

I just looked at the link and the Ossipee lakes are missing a bunch of stuff.
Hazard markers in Leavitt, Broad bay is labeled as Ossipee lake and is missing hazard markers and the channel markers at spindle point to name a few. Also there are many no-wake markers missing.

I have a new Lowrance Elite-7HDI and was thinking about this card but now even I am questioning it's value.

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That chart is probably a "sample", I bet it states somewhere on it or the link to get to it that it is not to be used for navigation or something to that effect. I also noticed plenty of stuff missing.
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That chart is probably a "sample", I bet it states somewhere on it or the link to get to it that it is not to be used for navigation or something to that effect. I also noticed plenty of stuff missing.
It is a sample...the maps are much more detailed!

If anyone wants me to check any specific area, just let me know what, as I use my lowrance and Navionics for ice fishing and will be using it this weekend. I will be more than happy to check a certain area out for you and even take a screen shot if you wish...

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Thanks Dan, but its not actually about areas that I am familiar with so much as if/when I go to an area of the lake I may not have been to before. All of the blacktop markers along Dockham Shore up to the Governor's Island Bridge are way to far away from shore, it also shows 'Gilford Public Beach' as in the middle of the Witches. So many discrepancies that I can see makes me wonder how many I don't know about.......until it is too late. $200 is pretty steep for something I could get off a $25 Bizer hard chart. But if Bizer doesn't have a chart card for my unit, and Navionics is questionable, there are not many other choices. Just got a email about something called Lake Insight Pro that I am going to research. How do you like your level of Elite?
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Thanks Dan, but its not actually about areas that I am familiar with so much as if/when I go to an area of the lake I may not have been to before. All of the blacktop markers along Dockham Shore up to the Governor's Island Bridge are way to far away from shore, it also shows 'Gilford Public Beach' as in the middle of the Witches. So many discrepancies that I can see makes me wonder how many I don't know about.......until it is too late. $200 is pretty steep for something I could get off a $25 Bizer hard chart. But if Bizer doesn't have a chart card for my unit, and Navionics is questionable, there are not many other choices. Just got a email about something called Lake Insight Pro that I am going to research. How do you like your level of Elite?

Did you see above where I stated that what you were looking at was a sample?? The actual mapping chip is completely accurate and very detailed that is why I offered to take a screen shot of an area you were familiar with. I can guarantee you my chart does not show Gilford Public Beach in the witches!

I have navigated the lake my entire adult life and can tell you that this chip is NOT "questionable" as you keep stating... If you want the best this is what you buy.

Also, Not sure why you would pay $200.00 for the chip when I said in my post above you could them for $136.00???...

Just trying to help...

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Right now I am leaning towards the Navionics card. I am watching an auction for a brand new sealed card on ebay. My plotter should be here by the weekend and I can start getting familiar with it. Auction ends on Sunday I think. Seems the Lake Insights Pro is a product of Lowrance but I can't seem to find any sample screens and from what I can see, it's geared more towards fishing. I understand there is a Bass Pro Shop in Hooksett and they have Navionics cards in stock. We'll see what the weekend brings. Really getting bored with the cold and snow.
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Seems the Lake Insights Pro is a product of Lowrance but I can't seem to find any sample screens and from what I can see, it's geared more towards fishing. .
I was told that the Navionics HotMaps were the only e-charts that showed details of Winnipesaukee.
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I don't think that the future Bass Pro in Hooksett is open yet.
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Just got off the phone and was told the Bass Pro Shop in Hooksett opens on Feb 6.
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Just got off the phone and was told the Bass Pro Shop in Hooksett opens on Feb 6.
Just in case anyone tries to drive a distance to get there, you may want to to double check to see if they will be open:

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/st...=94&storeID=93
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Just in case anyone tries to drive a distance to get there, you may want to to double check to see if they will be open:

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/st...=94&storeID=93

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...903#post218903

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Word is Bass Pro Shop opens in Hooksett on Feb 16th. I located a Navionics card on line and it is on its way. Took the new Elite4 to the lake today. Not impressed with the preloaded ware, will see how Navionics looks when it gets here.
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Got a Nuvi 2550 for XMAS. It can use a SD card. Does Navionics have
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Is Bizer out of the GPS business.

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Is Bizer out of the GPS business.

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Here is a link to his page... I have a Garman 76 and have the Bizer chart. It works well.

I used it on my old Garman Streetpilot, and as a navigation aid, it was fine. When I put my dock in as a waypoint, and subsequently told the unit to take me to that waypoint, my very nice female Streetpilot voice said " Drive to highlighted route, then turn left" (Route 11).

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http://bizer.com/

For units that use a Cmap cartridge, they can also get the Bizer map. It is not Bizer who makes the use of his chart on a GPS not usable... it is the companies being more proprietary with their charts, and not wanting to work with Bizer.
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I've been using Navionics for about 5 years and absolutely love it. I think Platinum is the satellite image version which is why its more pricey. I'm not sure of my version (Gold I think) but it is more like a Bizer chart (no satellite imagery) and only cost me around $125. The nice thing is that should Navionics update their charts, you can trade in your card and buy the upgrade for half price.

I also carry a bizer because I'm old school and believe that electronics are great but CAN and WILL fail at some point and that is when a compass and map are invaluable. Also, if I want a big picture of the lake to decide where I'm heading or want to explore, I prefer to open the map rather than zoom in/out and pan with the electronic interface.
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Just got my Navionics card today. In looking over the material, the first year of upgrades are free. Aperently, any upgrades are in download form with instructions on how to install them on your card. Any upgrades after the first year are purchased and come with installation instructions also.
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Did you see above where I stated that what you were looking at was a sample?? The actual mapping chip is completely accurate and very detailed that is why I offered to take a screen shot of an area you were familiar with. I can guarantee you my chart does not show Gilford Public Beach in the witches!

I have navigated the lake my entire adult life and can tell you that this chip is NOT "questionable" as you keep stating... If you want the best this is what you buy.

Also, Not sure why you would pay $200.00 for the chip when I said in my post above you could them for $136.00???...

Just trying to help...

I have an HDS-7 Gen 2 and I love it!

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I agree. Got mine near the end of the 2012 season from West Marine for $139.95. I have a Humminbird unit (4 yrs old) and the chip works great with it. I always take the Bizer chart along for the big picture but I find the Hotmaps very accurate. Unless things have changed, Bizer only has a chip available for Garmin. Other than that, I'd put my vote in for the Navionics.
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