2012 Fuel Costs

[Belmont Resident]

You figure with all the extra money spent on fuel commuting to work and around town then the extra fuel cost to get to the lake. It all adds up to a lot more than you think. Ya 20-30 more for your boat but add that to how much more your spending weekly just to run your car and you could be talking hundreds a more each month.
That will hurt anyone.
I have noticed less and less people passing us on our trek to Maine. In fact with my cruise set to 65 I was amazed at how many people we passed.

[Blue Thunder]

Originally Posted by Belmont Resident

You figure with all the extra money spent on fuel commuting to work and around town then the extra fuel cost to get to the lake. It all adds up to a lot more than you think. Ya 20-30 more for your boat but add that to how much more your spending weekly just to run your car and you could be talking hundreds a more each month.
That will hurt anyone.
I have noticed less and less people passing us on our trek to Maine. In fact with my cruise set to 65 I was amazed at how many people we passed.

That was my point.... but you stated it so much better!!!! The Big Picture.

[jack1706]

Forget about even rafting!

It will be too expensive to even get on the lake!

It is a sad forecast......
It will be all we can do to get to the lake let alone be on it with these prices......

[Belmont Resident]

Originally Posted by jack1706

Forget about even rafting!

It will be too expensive to even get on the lake!

It is a sad forecast......
It will be all we can do to get to the lake let alone be on it with these prices......

There was a short peice stating that before Obama was elected gas was $1.80 something a gallon. God help us if he gets re-elected.
Not that any of the alternatives look a whole lot better.

[garysanfran]

Coming, soon, to a station near you!

[SAB1]

I agree with Blue Thunder, $5/gallon will lead to drastic changes on the lake. A few years ago when it was $4/gal there was less boat activity. But realistically, if it gets that high I agree, the recovery comes to a screatching halt. It won't stay there that long anyway. Obama couldn't afford that for his re-election bid.

[JPC]

Originally Posted by Belmont Resident

There was a short peice stating that before Obama was elected gas was $1.80 something a gallon.

2008 wasn't to long ago. Bush was in office and gas was over $4.00/gal. Or did you forget?

[Bear247]

Does anyone remember what year it was when gas cost $1.80 a gallon??

[Lakegeezer]

Here's a chart that shows the historical average price of gas http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx. Click on the 6 year view once there. It was the rise over $4 that helped trigger the recession in June 2008 - and prices were about what they are today till the end of summer. Boat traffic was way down that year. Prices fell to 1.61 by December 2008 as the financial panic caught steam and then quickly returned to the mid $2's and went above $3 in early 2011.

[ITD]

Originally Posted by Belmont Resident

There was a short peice stating that before Obama was elected gas was $1.80 something a gallon. God help us if he gets re-elected.
Not that any of the alternatives look a whole lot better.

Come on BR, he's going to fix it with algae.

[Belmont Resident]

Originally Posted by ITD

Come on BR, he's going to fix it with algae.

What is wrong with this country? Politicians! ALL of them.

[Belmont Resident]

That was one of those times where you want to say more but you know you can't, but you wish you could.

[trfour]

Originally Posted by Belmont Resident

What is wrong with this country? Politicians! ALL of them.

Pockets fill pockets... A 'daffy-nition of Big O'l, and Government!
Nothing has changed, or will, as long as we are paying for it!!

Terry
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[Coastal Laker]

It's so easy for us to just say, "well it's only another this or that much more." So for example, at $3.69 a gallon, I did the math, my 110 mile daily commute costs me 16.91 a day. At $4, that grows to 18.33 only $1.42 more a day or $25.56 a month (18 days of commuting).

What's another $26 a month... I can handle it... and then next month it's another 20 something, and the next month it's another 20 something. then all of a sudden we wonder where all the money's going since things are starting to feel a bit tight.

What about the not wanting to give up riding around in the boat, or the snowmobile, or the ATV, or the motorcycle, or scooter, or whatever. But then there's the lawn mower, leaf blower, snowblower, weed whacker, etc.

How do you suppose it's so easy for a whole lot of nothing to happen to stop the gouging? We accept it. What else are we going to do?

[surfnsnow]

stay tuned for the pols to start talking about investigating price gouging.happens every time we get near $4.00/gal. never seem to find out the results of thier investigation however.

[NoRegrets]

So there are many pricing pressures and equations setting the price of gas. The closing of refineries by epa forced costly upgrades, commodities gaming, media hype, etc. The commodities modernization act of 2000 allowed speculation buying on energy by anyone for the first time since 1907 (my opinion the worst crime done to us by our elected officials in the past 40 years).

I wonder what the flooding of dollars (QE1 and QE2) has done to devalue our currency. Gold, Copper, and most commodities have gone to record levels so shouldn't oil have done the same? Since we printed hundreds of billions of dollars should anyone that owns commodities take less valuable dollars in trade?

I think the high gas price was a calculated trade off by our current elected administration. Print out dollars, spread the money to states, unions, bailouts, cash for clunkers, jobs and the stimulus plan and brace for the payback.

We will be on the boat as much as ever but not happy about the extra cost because I believe the current inflation (or devaluation of the dollar) was a very stupid move by Mr. Obama's cabinet leaders and czars (treasury and energy).

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by NoRegrets

So there are many pricing pressures and equations setting the price of gas. The closing of refineries by epa forced costly upgrades, commodities gaming, media hype, etc. The commodities modernization act of 2000 allowed speculation buying on energy by anyone for the first time since 1907 (my opinion the worst crime done to us by our elected officials in the past 40 years).

I wonder what the flooding of dollars (QE1 and QE2) has done to devalue our currency. Gold, Copper, and most commodities have gone to record levels so shouldn't oil have done the same? Since we printed hundreds of billions of dollars should anyone that owns commodities take less valuable dollars in trade?

I think the high gas price was a calculated trade off by our current elected administration. Print out dollars, spread the money to states, unions, bailouts, cash for clunkers, jobs and the stimulus plan and brace for the payback.

We will be on the boat as much as ever but not happy about the extra cost because I believe the current inflation (or devaluation of the dollar) was a very stupid move by Mr. Obama's cabinet leaders and czars (treasury and energy).

Very well said!! You hit the nail on the head!!... and hang on because QE3 is right around the corner!

[ITD]

Maybe I'm having an FLL moment here, but if algae is indeed the answer maybe we can scoop up CyanoBacteria blooms this summer and put them in our tanks to run our boats.

[AB_Monterey]

This is pretty good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2AvU2cfXRk

[John A. Birdsall]

I seem to think that those that are watersking might take a second thought on boating doing that, taking off from a dead stop witth a loaded skier really eats up the gas, so perhaps we will see less of that this year. I am preparing my gas slips rebate for last year and I am sure I will be cutting back on the operation of my boat. I hope I get my registration soon.

[dutchie4]

We are putting a bimini top on our boat and doing alot more anchoring and less cruising!

[AmericanBoatClub]

Fuel is a tough thing to avoid if you want to use your precious lake time for boating and enjoying our wonderful lake. As many have pointed out it makes you end up cutting back on other things, it would be nice to boat as much as you like and still save money.

If only there was a way to avoid having to buy the boat, store it, winterize it, rent a slip, fix it, clean it, and insure it.

[Dave R]

I guess I picked the right year to end my 104 mile round-trip daily commute to MA and start working from my NH home.

[Happy Gourmand]

Originally Posted by AmericanBoatClub

Fuel is a tough thing to avoid if you want to use your precious lake time for boating and enjoying our wonderful lake. As many have pointed out it makes you end up cutting back on other things, it would be nice to boat as much as you like and still save money.

If only there was a way to avoid having to buy the boat, store it, winterize it, rent a slip, fix it, clean it, and insure it.

Shameless...I love it!!

[John A. Birdsall]

Originally Posted by Coastal Laker

It's so easy for us to just say, "well it's only another this or that much more." So for example, at $3.69 a gallon, I did the math, my 110 mile daily commute costs me 16.91 a day. At $4, that grows to 18.33 only $1.42 more a day or $25.56 a month (18 days of commuting).

What's another $26 a month... I can handle it... and then next month it's another 20 something, and the next month it's another 20 something. then all of a sudden we wonder where all the money's going since things are starting to feel a bit tight.

What about the not wanting to give up riding around in the boat, or the snowmobile, or the ATV, or the motorcycle, or scooter, or whatever. But then there's the lawn mower, leaf blower, snowblower, weed whacker, etc.

How do you suppose it's so easy for a whole lot of nothing to happen to stop the gouging? We accept it. What else are we going to do?

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put all the gas toys away, replace the gas mower with the hand mower, the snow blower with the snow shovel, the ATV with a single speed fat tire bike, and the boat, put oars on it and row row row your boat. You will feel better in the morning. (especially if your rowing that cigerette boat and trying to keep it under 45 mph.

[Belmont Resident]

Originally Posted by John A. Birdsall

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put all the gas toys away, replace the gas mower with the hand mower, the snow blower with the snow shovel, the ATV with a single speed fat tire bike, and the boat, put oars on it and row row row your boat. You will feel better in the morning. (especially if your rowing that cigerette boat and trying to keep it under 45 mph.

Boats going away for me and that will leave enough for the other things (snowmobiles, ATV's and new vehicle) with money to spare.