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[Rusty]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

I don't "fear" the renters when I'm boating. I'm a licensed captain and am experienced enough to know how to avoid them and their wakes of destruction. However, I do "fear" them and "fear" for the safety of my family when these inexperienced operators of rental boats come dangerously close (way less than 150') to people swimming.

You WINNFABS guys kill me....when you "fear" fast boats, you lobby for speed limits and have ulterior motives to scrub the lake of performance boats so you can use the lake as you best see fit. But when the shoe is on the other foot and someone else has a legitimate concern about a real problem, your knee-jerk reaction is to tell them to "give up boating". Too bad WINFABS didn't follow this advice.

“I don't "fear" the renters when I'm boating.”

That’s good to hear, you shouldn’t fear anyone on the Lake.

“I'm a licensed captain and am experienced enough to know how to avoid them and their wakes of destruction.”

How many people were destructed due to the wakes of boat renters? Just curious that’s all.

“However, I do "fear" them and "fear" for the safety of my family when these inexperienced operators of rental boats come dangerously close (way less than 150') to people swimming.”

Now you fear them??? You said you were “am experienced” captain and know how to avoid them. So why do you fear them then??

“You WINNFABS guys kill me....when you "fear" fast boats,”

I can only speak for myself and I do not “fear” fast boats.

“you lobby for speed limits and have ulterior motives to scrub the lake of performance boats so you can use the lake as you best see fit. But when the shoe is on the other foot and someone else has a legitimate concern about a real problem, your knee-jerk reaction is to tell them to "give up boating". Too bad WINFABS didn't follow this advice”

Living in “fear” while boating on the Lake is a "legitimate" concern and a “real problem for “YOU” and not for me or any other boater that I know of. You need to give you “Captains” license up if you can’t control your emotions while boating…….that is a "legitimate" concern for me.

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by Rusty

“I don't "fear" the renters when I'm boating.”

That’s good to hear, you shouldn’t fear anyone on the Lake.

“I'm a licensed captain and am experienced enough to know how to avoid them and their wakes of destruction.”

How many people were destructed due to the wakes of boat renters? Just curious that’s all.

“However, I do "fear" them and "fear" for the safety of my family when these inexperienced operators of rental boats come dangerously close (way less than 150') to people swimming.”

Now you fear them??? You said you were “am experienced” captain and know how to avoid them. So why do you fear them then??

“You WINNFABS guys kill me....when you "fear" fast boats,”

I can only speak for myself and I do not “fear” fast boats.

“you lobby for speed limits and have ulterior motives to scrub the lake of performance boats so you can use the lake as you best see fit. But when the shoe is on the other foot and someone else has a legitimate concern about a real problem, your knee-jerk reaction is to tell them to "give up boating". Too bad WINFABS didn't follow this advice”

Living in “fear” while boating on the Lake is a "legitimate" concern and a “real problem for “YOU” and not for me or any other boater that I know of. You need to give you “Captains” license up if you can’t control your emotions while boating…….that is a "legitimate" concern for me.

But the Lake "feels" so much safer now.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by Rusty

“I don't "fear" the renters when I'm boating.”

That’s good to hear, you shouldn’t fear anyone on the Lake. Nor should you and WINNFABS.

“I'm a licensed captain and am experienced enough to know how to avoid them and their wakes of destruction.”

How many people were destructed due to the wakes of boat renters? Just curious that’s all. Sorry - bad choice of words. Let's change "wake" to "path".

“However, I do "fear" them and "fear" for the safety of my family when these inexperienced operators of rental boats come dangerously close (way less than 150') to people swimming.”

Now you fear them??? You said you were “am experienced” captain and know how to avoid them. So why do you fear them then?? Nice try with the spin. I said I fear them when I'm swimming with my family, not when I'm operating my vessel.
“You WINNFABS guys kill me....when you "fear" fast boats,”

I can only speak for myself and I do not “fear” fast boats.

“you lobby for speed limits and have ulterior motives to scrub the lake of performance boats so you can use the lake as you best see fit. But when the shoe is on the other foot and someone else has a legitimate concern about a real problem, your knee-jerk reaction is to tell them to "give up boating". Too bad WINFABS didn't follow this advice”

Living in “fear” while boating on the Lake is a "legitimate" concern and a “real problem for “YOU” and not for me or any other boater that I know of. You need to give you “Captains” license up if you can’t control your emotions while boating…….that is a "legitimate" concern for me.

I only have one emotion while boating (and flying): pure bliss! Fear was buzzword most often used by WINNFABS and was also the foundation of their speed limit lobby and efforts.

[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

I only have one emotion while boating (and flying): pure bliss! Fear was buzzword most often used by WINNFABS and was also the foundation of their speed limit lobby and efforts.

Back in the late '70's, early '80's, my biggest thrill was taking off/ landing in the waters around the Lakes Region in a lake Renegade.

Back at the time, driving a performance boat on the big lake was also a thrill. Today, the only time I feel comfortable in a boat is during the week before Memorial Day and after Labor Day. 'Feel good' laws have taken away the 'pure bliss' of boating that I once had. 'Feel good' laws do not fix the problem, it makes matters worst.

[XCR-700]

Not sure how this thread got twisted and sorry for adding to it as I don't have anything useful to add to the thread as titled, but one "quick" thought about the last few posts,,,

I am NEVER driving my boat(s) actively thinking/worrying about any other boater (renter or not) And I think we should not be assuming renters are all inexperienced or bad boaters, many are very experienced. I may be the odd man out, but I assume other boaters are in control and know what they are doing until I actually see them doing something wrong.

I am however more likely to be far too actively thinking/worrying about all the formal rules and that there could be a marine patrol around the next bend.

There are even times when I have found myself paying too much attention to trying to determine distance to another boat/land/etc and NOT focusing on far more important things like if the kids or dog are sitting down, or that the ropes are all in the boat and not dragging behind, or any other number of things I should be more concerned about other than getting a ticket for being a few feet too close to something or 5 MPH over some speed limit.

When there were less formal laws/rules boating was a more natural activity, it has become a lot more stressful activity not because of other boaters, but because of all these finable offences that are being introduced by people who probably shouldn't be boating in the first place.

I personally think its far more important to understand the basic mechanics of your boat and paying attention to that than any speed limit. Yet we have created a situation where anyone who can make a payment is now driving a boatful of people around and who wouldn't know how to change the prop on their boat if they even know it was bent, but they get laws passed telling me how fast I can drive at night!

And while I have to admit I don't think I have ever been over 35 MPH at night in my many years of boating, I hardly think a speed limit will make my night time operation any safer, that is one of the last things of concern for me when talking about night operation of a boat.

Well that’s one persons rant,,,

Sorry,,, Just venting (and using up all the smilies I can in one post),,,