What happens to the lake if Romney wins?

[robmac]

If you remember when he was Govenor he had a rope line that streched pretty far off shore. So I would say if elected that area would be totally off limits. JMHO

[camp guy]

I don't think any new president will have a lot of time to vacation and kick back - they will be totally consumed trying to re-orient our country back to a jobs-based economy that they will be luck to leave the Oval office for lunch.

The white line in place when he was Massachusetts governor wasn't his doing, it was the security forces. The locals know him, and politely ignore him. Now I am not ignorant of the difference between being a governor and being president, so clearly there will have to be security measures in place.

It would be interesting, to say the least.

[Grant]

And diving Clark's Point would probably result in a life-changing encounter with a Navy Seal. Even if he becomes the nominee, say buh-bye to that dive site.

And can you imagine the Secret Service detail on a Sunday when President Romney heads to the church north of downtown? Main Street would be cordoned off, locked down, gridlocked and lined with black Suburbans filled with gun-toting dudes in armor.

And then there's the news media...satellite trucks, primping talking heads, traffic...

Just sayin'...

[webmaster]

Originally Posted by robmac

If you remember when he was Govenor he had a rope line that streched pretty far off shore. So I would say if elected that area would be totally off limits. JMHO

[jrc]

I'm more worried about Air Force One coming in over my boat into Laconia airport. Think they can land a 747 in there?

More likely they land in Boston and Marine One to Laconia.

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by jrc

I'm more worried about Air Force One coming in over my boat into Laconia airport. Think they can land a 747 in there?

More likely they land in Boston and Marine One to Laconia.

Or Pease. It is an easy helo ride from Hampton area!

[hancoveguy]

Where is his house on the lake anyway? Just so I can stay away when the time comes?

HCG

[WakeboardMom]

We need someone who lives on Martha's Vineyard to weigh in. They've experienced it first-hand.

[joann721]

If he makes the Wolfeboro house his "CAMP DAVID" then we could be in for some challenging summer moments. But, IMHO, any inconvenience in the Wolfeboro area would be worthwhile for the the value of having a business man running the country again ....

[webmaster]

Originally Posted by hancoveguy

Where is his house on the lake anyway? Just so I can stay away when the time comes?

HCG

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...4&postcount=21

[RLW]

Originally Posted by hancoveguy

Where is his house on the lake anyway? Just so I can stay away when the time comes?HCG

Do you know something that we don't?????

[patman]

Originally Posted by VitaBene

Or Pease. It is an easy helo ride from Hampton area!

I used to work in an office at Pease. When Bush visited, he would fly in to Pease and they'd shut traffic down while the black SUVs and all the security escorts went by, then they'd head up 95.

K'port is 45 minute drive from Pease, Wolfeboro is about an hour. I'd bet they'd drive instead of the helicopter, probably with a rolling blockade up 16 and 11.

Between the security and the gawkers, it played major havoc with the traffic everywhere along the route.

[Kamper]

Originally Posted by jrc

... Air Force One ...

More likely land in Boston and Marine One to Laconia.

If they use one of the 747's, Hanscom AFB not Boston Logan would be better for security purposes.

Manchester can take 'heavies' now but they'd probably use Pease because there is still an Air Force presence there, if they didn't use Hanscom.

[tis]

I would think they would use Pease too. It would be closest and it is a great runway and as you said, the AF still have a presence there. I wish Pease would get another commercial airline in there.

[Rattlesnake Guy]

Mitt's new swim platform would fix a lot of issues.

[SAMIAM]

Good call,Don....it's so easy to slip into political debate and it just goes downhill.That's why we love the forum.....everybody is happy (all most)

[Lakesrider]

Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Guy

Mitt's new swim platform would fix a lot of issues.

OMG, you should send that to him at his Wolfeboro address.
That is an awesome Idea.....
Wouldn't that be something, having to hold the Mount out in the Broads while he did his arrival and departures?
LOL!

[SteveA]

he lives in his sons unfinished basement... according to voter registration in Belmont Mass.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/if-mitt-r...t-voter-fraud/

The video from MSNBC is near the bottom of the page... pretty funny.

[Argie's Wife]

I was living in Wells, ME when the Papa Bush was president, and lemme tell you... nothing could screw up summertime traffic like Team Pres coming into town... and that was before 9-11 - security wasn't as tight back then as it is today!


And isn't there an airport in Wolfeboro or Tuftonboro?

[NoBozo]

Originally Posted by Argie's Wife

I was living in Wells, ME when the Papa Bush was president, and lemme tell you... nothing could screw up summertime traffic like Team Pres coming into town... and that was before 9-11 - security wasn't as tight back then as it is today!

And isn't there an airport in Wolfeboro or Tuftonboro?

There used to be an airport in Wolfeboro on Wolfeboro Neck but someone decided it would be better suited as a Condo Park. Trouble is, nobody was buying or building. I think the Marriot's own the land now.

There's no airport in Tuftonboro. Nearest airport on the Wolfeboro side of the lake is on Rt 25 in Moultonboro. NB

[Barbara]

The Marriott's do own whatwas once the airport. It was subdivided into building lots with septic systems and underground utilities in place before the bottom dropped out of the housing market. The Marriott's bought the whole shebang. They have close ties to the Romney's and it would be an easy place to land a helicopter. However, I recently talked to someone who worked in the White House under Bush and asked about how he would get into town if he were President. The answer I was given was that he would fly into Pease on Air Force One and then by helicopter right up to the neighborhood which could be the hospital, golf course, Clark Park. There would not be a lot of traffic tie ups, but the people who live down Clark Rd. In the area where he lives will have tough screening to go through every time they go in or out whenever he would be in residence.

[jrc]

Let's assume he will land in Pease and drive the motorcade in normal situations. According to the map thing it's 47 minutes. It's 42 minutes to Laconia, but that means a smaller plane or a transfer of planes.

In emergency situation they can land Marine One on the golf course or in the lake! The usual helicopter is amphibious.

[tis]

The runway of the old Wolfeboro Airport is now a road, but it really would make a better runway than what used to be there.

[lawn psycho]

When Obama visited Acadia National Park in Maine, he arrived in a Gulfstream III. Clinton also flew on a Gulfstream III

Who knows what they'll use but given the short flight from Andrews AFB to New England it makes more sense to fly the smaller planes.

Again, I will be surprised if they don't use Sanford. They already have the logistics worked out and can heli from there.

I was in Claremont in 94/95 when Clinton visited. I have seen a fair share of motorcades

[Rattlesnake Guy]

Originally Posted by jrc

Let's assume he will land in Pease and drive the motorcade in normal situations. According to the map thing it's 47 minutes. It's 42 minutes to Laconia, but that means a smaller plane or a transfer of planes.

In emergency situation they can land Marine One on the golf course or in the lake! The usual helicopter is amphibious.

Can see Mitt doing a water landing and jumping out onto a waiting PWC for a beach landing to grill burgers with the family.

[This'nThat]

Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Guy

Can see Mitt doing a water landing and jumping out onto a waiting PWC for a beach landing to grill burgers with the family.

And doing it all without a single strand of hair out of place.

[WakeboardMom]

Apparently, even people in LA find Mitt's Wolfeboro residency an interesting topic.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul...eboro-20110710

[Pineedles]

Great article, thanks. But where exactly is....

"there's an ice fishing tournament in nearby Alden Bay".

[jrc]

It's intentional misdirection to fool the Ruskies.

[WakeboardMom]

Originally Posted by Pineedles

Great article, thanks. But where exactly is....

"there's an ice fishing tournament in nearby Alden Bay".

I posted that link on FB and mentioned "Alden Bay" specifically. My son commented, "I emailed the author with the correction."

Gotta love NH pride!

[ushaggerb]

Originally Posted by WakeboardMom

Apparently, even people in LA find Mitt's Wolfeboro residency an interesting topic.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul...eboro-20110710

I wouldn't read much into the Times article. Not front page news. Neither is Romney out here. L. A. doesn't pay attention to much but itself.

If you ask me what will happen to the Lake if Romney wins, it will gain some notice, as in how Kennebunkport did with the Bush's. However, nobody West of the Mississippi really has a clue where Kennebunkport is, they didn't schedule a trip to go see it, buy real estate out there, or anything of the sort.

The Lake is still a well-kept secret in the Western U.S. I'd worry more about Adam Sandler talking about it than Romney.

The flip side: if Romney loses, nobody's going to think that the Lake is some sort of 3-mile Island.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by NoBozo

There's no airport in Tuftonboro. Nearest airport on the Wolfeboro side of the lake is on Rt 25 in Moultonboro. NB

...but my Dad tells me, at one time, there were many airports in Tuftonboro!

'Course, that was in the 1930s, when any green field was "an airport".

—including the 10th green at the "Bald Peak Golf Course" where many golfer-pilots would land to play golf!

[ClosetExtrovert]

I will offer up my own personal govenor Christie for a substitute. He's a little rough around the edges, but seems to be getting the job done. Oh..and he's fat. Hope that's not a problem.

[lawn psycho]

Originally Posted by tis

I would think they would use Pease too. It would be closest and it is a great runway and as you said, the AF still have a presence there. I wish Pease would get another commercial airline in there.

Air Force 1 is not always the widebody 747. It's whatever plane the president flies on.

When Bush I and Bush II were up for trips to Maine, the most common method was for them to fly the smaller plane into Sanford and then use motorcade to K-port. Sometimes, they would use the 747 into Pease but that was the exception, not the norm. Then they high-tailed it up the Maine Turnpike.

If Romney were to get elected President, there are a couple options they could do. They could fly to Pease and helicopter to Laconia then motorcade. They could do the same operation but instead fly to Sanford then Laconia via heli. Or the could use a plane direct to Laconia but I don't know enough about what planes they use and runway length to know what works and what doesn't.

Here's a picture of Air Force One at Sanford Maine I snagged from the web. You can clearly see it's not a 747....

[Rattlesnake Guy]

Marine One can land on three plywood disk on the White House lawn. I am sure they can find a spot near Brewster or the Golf Course. If I was over there, I would be proud to let Marine One land in my yard no matter who was aboard.

As long as I could post the pictures of course.

When I am in DC, I always stop to look up in pride of the power of the office of the President.

[Heaven]

Perhaps the huggin's pad? Or Wolfeboro neck at the Marriots "airport", or, there are other private pads in town.

[tis]

Romney is a friend of the Marriot's so maybe---. Never thought of that.

[SteveA]

http://politicalscoop.wmur.com/romne...isit-next-week

Romney in the Lakes Region for the 4th.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by tis

Romney is a friend of the Marriot's so maybe---. Never thought of that.

It was a Marriott executive who suggested that Romney buy in Wolfeboro.

[SteveA]

Originally Posted by lawn psycho

Or the could use a plane direct to Laconia but I don't know enough about what planes they use and runway length to know what works and what doesn't.....

Laconia Airport and the Gilford Selectman would never allow that!

[topwater]

Mitt will be over for Dinner and Drinks tonight, I will ask him what his plans will be.

[Pineedles]

Originally Posted by topwater

Mitt will be over for Dinner and Drinks tonight, I will ask him what his plans will be.

I thought Mormons don't drink.

[topwater]

Only behind closed doors my friend....only behind closed doors.... By the way, one of these Monday mornings, I should pick you up at your dock for a day of fishing.

[Pineedles]

Originally Posted by topwater

Only behind closed doors my friend....only behind closed doors.... By the way, one of these Monday mornings, I should pick you up at your dock for a day of fishing.

OMG, It would be most appreciated my friend! My son has been bitten by the bass disease after I told him about the "reef" that exists off our dock that you told me about. He suspected such, and has since pulled multiple bass as well as a very cantankerous pickeral from this "line" that you drew for me. The "slugos?" you gave me that day have worked everywhere. CT River, Winnie, you name it. Thank you again! J's preffered lure is mostly now topwater lures but he has introduced me to salty crayfish.

We will be up there the first week of September, J and I, and would love to hook up with you. He wants to rent a pontoon for the week and I am in agreement that this would be the best way to access the weedy areas that produce. I was real disspointed to hear about Conway's closing. It's nice when your son appreciates fin and fur as a pasttime.

[topwater]

Consider it done.. Shoot me a IM when your up for the week.

[magicrobotmonkey]

Mitt must have been spending the holiday weekend up at the lake, because he was in Laconia's 4th of July parade yesterday! I figure it was the closest one to his place so he could do a little campaigning and get back to enjoying the lake.

[songkrai]

Where does Romney claim his residency today/now?

[TOAD]

Originally Posted by songkrai

Where does Romney claim his residency today/now?

Campaign Trail, USA.

[Kamper]

Originally Posted by lawn psycho

Air Force 1 is not always the widebody 747. It's whatever plane the president flies on. ....

True. Maybe they'll recondition an amphibian out of moth-balls and resurect the call-sign "Navy One."

[laketrout]

Originally Posted by jrc

I'm more worried about Air Force One coming in over my boat into Laconia airport. Think they can land a 747 in there?

More likely they land in Boston and Marine One to Laconia.

If he gets elected--The USAF uses smaller jet aircraft that coud land in Laconia- Helicopter Marine 1 and doubles would be everywhere- I lived near Kennebunkport Maine during Bush1 and the Helicopter traffic was everywhere = annoying.
Kennebunk and the Kennebunkport still attact people today due to the Bush family living there- it might be a boom for local business and or a curse to quiet smalltown life.

[MAXUM]

No matter what happens to Mitt in the presidential race you can't fault the guy if he wants to take a vacation and decides to head to the lake just like everyone else on this forum does. If he does win and comes to the lake I don't begrudge him for doing so, it will without a doubt screw the area up while he's in town. Remember too that will extend beyond whatever time he may be in the White House (if he gets that far).

As a side note, get educated on the candidates running for President and vote. It's not only a privilege but an obligation as a citizen. Many have died or sacrificed a great deal so you have the ability to do so!

[dpg]

Wouldn't it be cool if he wins and goes to the forum fest?

[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by dpg

Wouldn't it be cool if he wins and goes to the forum fest?

That would put Forum Fest into a whole new category now wouldn't it....

[Pineedles]

Originally Posted by dpg

Wouldn't it be cool if he wins and goes to the forum fest?

THAT would be SO cool!

[Hermit Cover]

Three years ago Romney bought the La Jolla, California oceanfront home of a former San Diego Mayor and her "Jack In The Box" founder husband. The 3000+ sq. ft., $12,000,000 property will be bulldozed to make way for a 12,000 sq. ft. "West Coast White House" (Maybe) It is in close proximity to the San Diego Mormon Temple and according to Mitt....he wants to be where he can hear the waves! Close to SD Airport for AF One....and all those Camp Pendleton Marines just up the road... What does this mean for the Romney "camp" on Lake Winnipesaukee?

[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by Hermit Cover

Three years ago Romney bought the La Jolla, California oceanfront home of a former San Diego Mayor and her "Jack In The Box" founder husband. The 3000+ sq. ft., $12,000,000 property will be bulldozed to make way for a 12,000 sq. ft. "West Coast White House" (Maybe) It is in close proximity to the San Diego Mormon Temple and according to Mitt....he wants to be where he can hear the waves! Close to SD Airport for AF One....and all those Camp Pendleton Marines just up the road... What does this mean for the Romney "camp" on Lake Winnipesaukee?

I don't think it would mean anything for the Romney camp on Winnipesaukee... except maybe reduced use.... Romney bought the camp because he liked the area, unless he no longer enjoys the lake, he will still want to use it....

[MAXUM]

Originally Posted by Hermit Cover

Three years ago Romney bought the La Jolla, California oceanfront home of a former San Diego Mayor and her "Jack In The Box" founder husband. The 3000+ sq. ft., $12,000,000 property will be bulldozed to make way for a 12,000 sq. ft. "West Coast White House" (Maybe) It is in close proximity to the San Diego Mormon Temple and according to Mitt....he wants to be where he can hear the waves! Close to SD Airport for AF One....and all those Camp Pendleton Marines just up the road... What does this mean for the Romney "camp" on Lake Winnipesaukee?

Sounds like he'll need me to be his personal caretaker for his 'camp' in Wolfeboro.

[Pineedles]

Nothing wrong with putting out your resume early.

[Rattlesnake Guy]

Have you seen his Christmas card? I think his family can keep more than one house full with plenty to spare.



Can't tell if this picture was taken at the lake?

[SteveA]

Great looking Family!

What's up with the matching "outfits" on all the kids? (Maybe they got one of those coveted 30% off coupons from Kohl's?)

The little bit of the house you can see looks to be the same color as his lake house and the trees and bushes look like typical NH stuff. Just guessing.

Here is a family picture from the 2008 Campaign that is from Winnipesaukee.

[Heaven]

Christmas card? : / Is that how they do it on the left coast?

[TOAD]

The guy on the right end of the picture looks like he is wearing the same shirt , wearing the same smile and holding the same baby that didn't grow at all over the course of a year and the baby has the same black outfit on. What's that all about?

[riverat]

Originally Posted by TOAD

The guy on the right end of the picture looks like he is wearing the same shirt , wearing the same smile and holding the same baby that didn't grow at all over the course of a year and the baby has the same black outfit on. What's that all about?

very observant for 5 in the morning lol
is strange tho

[AC2717]

haha I agree,
but one thing to note his hands are placed different

[upthesaukee]

We have 8 grandchildren ranging in age from 6 to 21, with some of the kids living with "ex's". After the youngest was born, we tried several times to get a picture of all 8 together. It took over 3 years before we got the "baby" in a picture with her other 7 cousins. In the past 3+ years, we have not had the opportunity to get the 8 together again for an updated picture.

I'm guessing that the two pictures (and I'm sure many more) were taken at the same family gathering, probably by a professional photographer, and there were multiple posings. If we had trouble getting 8 kids together, how easy is it to get a family that size together for a family photo op.

Just a thought.

PS: I just added up the people, and the original had 28 people, the second photo showed 22. Hmmmmmmmm. Now I don't know, and I've had two cups of coffee.

[LIforrelaxin]

Do we really need to scrutinize the photo's this much?.....

At any rate on thing to think about is photo shop is a wonderful thing....

Upthesaukee if you are really interested in getting a family photo, look for a photographer that is will to work with you... You might not be able to get everyone together at once, but I know many people that have had large family photos done over the course of several sittings....and then all the photos merged.....

[TOAD]

Originally Posted by riverat

very observant for 5 in the morning lol
is strange tho

IT'S ALIENS I TELL YA!!!...ALIENS!!!....ALIENS AT WORK !!!!!!

[fatlazyless]

Mitt and his wife were in Ashland, NH, the exact geographic center of New Hampshire, yesterday evening, giving an energized stand-up routine to a room full of reporters, and locals. By the time I rolled through Ashland, I stopped after seeing the two big Romney buses, and all the police, and walked up to the American Legion Hall there to take a look-see. Unfortunately, the entry door was locked with what probably was security guard on the inside, a stocky guy in a medium grey suit & tie. Anyway, the Legion Hall has two large picture windows, so it was pretty interesting to watch it all from the outside without any audio, just the body languauge and the presentation. It looked like a very high-powered event, what with all the news people, two campaign buses, satelite trucks, police and you know what ...... I bet you ten thousand dollars there will be a 30-second clip of it on today's tv news, or something! ... .

[patman]

Originally Posted by TOAD

The guy on the right end of the picture looks like he is wearing the same shirt , wearing the same smile and holding the same baby that didn't grow at all over the course of a year and the baby has the same black outfit on. What's that all about?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073747/

[RailroadJoe]

Why not a spruce tree with decorations. That should satisfy everyone including the US government.

A friend I knew called it a Hunnaka bush, I think he was pulling my leg. Is there such a one?

[SteveA]

Originally Posted by RailroadJoe

Why not a spruce tree with decorations. That should satisfy everyone including the US government.

A friend I knew called it a Hunnaka bush, I think he was pulling my leg. Is there such a one?

Yes, and becoming more common in many Jewish homes. Even has decoration advice here...
http://www.ehow.com/how_5637_decorat...kkah-bush.html

And having said that ....I'll give myself an...

[songkrai]

Originally Posted by Hermit Cover

Three years ago Romney bought the La Jolla, California oceanfront home of a former San Diego Mayor and her "Jack In The Box" founder husband. The 3000+ sq. ft., $12,000,000 property will be bulldozed to make way for a 12,000 sq. ft. "West Coast White House" (Maybe) It is in close proximity to the San Diego Mormon Temple and according to Mitt....he wants to be where he can hear the waves! Close to SD Airport for AF One....and all those Camp Pendleton Marines just up the road... What does this mean for the Romney "camp" on Lake Winnipesaukee?

Bingo. This is going to be it. NH lake home probably only a tactic. A sideline in his goals. Of course, his extended family may use the lake home. I have no idea what security will be instituted for just family members.

I visited area up close to former President Nixons home in San Clemente, California. And security was quite tight with cameras everywhere on all nearby streets. Friends and I stopped on public street unknowing that Nixons home was nearby. Police arrived in less then one minute. Nixon was not there. This was at night and none of us saw any signs.

I visited area near President Nixons home in Key Biscayne, Florida. Near Miami, Florida. Again cameras everywhere with signs that stated No Stopping Do not get out of vehicle. As a young curious person I stopped and got out. On all utility poles were loud speakers. And over the loud speaker came the stern words - Get back into you car NOW. Nixon was not there. We promptly left the area. Key Biscayne is quite nice.

[Pontoon Goon]

Alsadad if The Forum had a hall of fame for posts that would be first ballot material. Well done.

[NoBozo]

Alsadad could be Dave Barry in disguise. NB

[SteveA]

That needs to be published in the Union Leader, or maybe some newspaper that people really read, like the Laconia Sun.

With material like that you could write for Stephen Colbert, I heard he was running!

[alsadad]

Originally Posted by NoBozo

Alsadad could be Dave Barry in disguise. NB

Thanks, NB. I'm not but I'm flattered by the comparison and glad that some of you enjoyed it. It was fun putting it together.