Go Back   Winnipesaukee Forum > Winnipesaukee Forums > Weather
Home Forums Gallery Webcams Blogs YouTube Channel Classifieds Register FAQ Members List Donate Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-11-2011, 03:31 PM   #1
lawn psycho
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: On the move...
Posts: 987
Thanks: 113
Thanked 248 Times in 133 Posts
Default

Maxum, no doubt that it will impact the boating community. This is where trailer boaters have the advantage as at least they can fill up at the road stations.

I can't even imagine paying for gas for the larger cruisers out on the water.

Unfortunately the US is quickly becoming less of a financial force as the Chinese economic consumption approaches ours. This is simply the beginning as the next couple decades we're going to see major changes in economies across the globe. Even little places like the Lakes Region are impacted by global events.

With the supply/demand equation so out of whack, I don't know what to predict with fuel prices anymore. This year's fuel price run-up was predicted last Fall by many economics and energy traders. I don't understand the energy markets but when you can predict these things it always makes me suspicious of how speculators are driving the price. Our supplies seem to reflect gas is over-priced but they're now saying gas is headed for over $4 "easily".
lawn psycho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 04:12 PM   #2
PaulT
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 10
Thanks: 4
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lawn psycho View Post
This year's fuel price run-up was predicted last Fall by many economics and energy traders.
It's the futures traders that have driving oil up over $111/bbl unfortunately.

Despite the unrest in the middle east and Africa, Saudi Arabia and other OPEC nations upped production to make up for any lost in the troubled areas.
Lybia's oil didn't even come to the US.

Traders are just using this as their excuse to force prices higher.
Can't even blame Exxon/Mobil or BP for the rise.


That said, the 12' aluminum V-hull I bought my wife for her birthday last year only used about 8-9 gallons all summer, and we fished a ton!
PaulT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 08:34 PM   #3
Rattlesnake Guy
Senior Member
 
Rattlesnake Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,254
Thanks: 423
Thanked 366 Times in 175 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulT View Post
It's the futures traders that have driving oil up over $111/bbl unfortunately.
With all due respect, your statement identifies that you don't understand how the futures markets work. For every buyer of a future, there is a seller. When your mother pre buys her oil for next year, she is a speculator. She is not doing it because she thinks the price is going to go down, she is willing to risk a higher price to offset the risk of an even higher price. The futures markets are a free market way of people to shed and assume risk. Some people use it as a casino as well. The vast majority of them loose money doing it.

As a private citizen you are equally free to sell a future to "drive the price down". Then buy it when the price is lower. Every dollar made by one is lost by another.
Rattlesnake Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Rattlesnake Guy For This Useful Post:
LadyoftheLake (04-13-2011)
Old 04-12-2011, 07:42 AM   #4
nhd
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 39
Thanks: 18
Thanked 53 Times in 15 Posts
Default Ice is looking gray in spots

From my vantage point in Alton looking over the lake it got very gray in spots overnight, especially between Rattlesnake and Alton Bay. With this wind there might be some open water today. Up towards Meredith and Center Harbor it still looks white. I will try to get a picture tomorrow and post it but no time today.
nhd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 10:57 AM   #5
Island Girl
Senior Member
 
Island Girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Central MA
Posts: 2,358
Thanks: 18
Thanked 577 Times in 183 Posts
Default Lake Temp up again

The temperature of the lake reported by the dam operators is up to 38 degrees. Last year we had ice out at 39 degrees. (though it was 39 degrees for many days before the ice went out.)

Lily Pond was mostly iced is except for a bit at the edges on Saturday. If anyone goes by could let us know if the ice is out.

IG
__________________
Island Girl

....... Make Lemonade
Island Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 04-12-2011, 12:39 PM   #6
DRH
Senior Member
 
DRH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Meredith
Posts: 1,698
Thanks: 1,211
Thanked 678 Times in 180 Posts
Default Big Change

Yesterday's rain, fog and mild temps really affected the ice. I took this picture from the Scenic View on Rt. 11 in Alton around noon today, looking toward Wolfeboro:

__________________
DRH
DRH is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to DRH For This Useful Post:
Grady223 (04-13-2011), Just Sold (04-12-2011), Pepper (04-12-2011), Rattlesnake Gal (04-13-2011), Resident 2B (04-12-2011), Steveo (04-12-2011), Sunset Bob (04-12-2011), trfour (04-12-2011), Webbsatwinni (04-12-2011)
Old 04-12-2011, 01:33 PM   #7
Merrymeeting
Senior Member
 
Merrymeeting's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Merrymeeting Lake, New Durham
Posts: 2,228
Thanks: 304
Thanked 799 Times in 368 Posts
Default

I checked the 2' water temperature on the WeatherCenter Cam page early this morning. It was still just under 37 degrees.

Right now it's reading 39.7! I'm not sure if it actually rose that fast, or if it just hadn't been updating for awhile.

In any case, if the reading is true, it's at the seemingly magic 40 degrees when ice-out happens quickly. The Water Temp page on this site shows the Lakeport Dam at 38 as of today.

On Sunday when I was there, there was almost no open water on the shoreline of Merrymeeting. Now you can see it is at least 20' out. http://65.175.138.198/view/view.shtml
Merrymeeting is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 02:01 PM   #8
codeman671
Senior Member
 
codeman671's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,604
Thanks: 223
Thanked 856 Times in 519 Posts
Default

I just got back from an airboat ride to Mark from Cattle Landing. It is open all the way across to Bear (small strip approaching Bear). There is 5" of wet, broken ice between Cattle and Mark. The airboat was having a tough time getting on top of it without breaking through. Coming across from Glendale the ice is strong enough to hold the boat I am told. I took a few cell phone pictures that I will upload later tonight.

Gilford Yacht Club is ice-free to the end of the outer dock and Smith Cove is going quickly. In Alton the ice is past the pavilion. Everywhere you look it is very porous and dark with lots of cracks.
codeman671 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to codeman671 For This Useful Post:
Chaos (04-12-2011), Grady223 (04-13-2011), VitaBene (04-12-2011), Webbsatwinni (04-12-2011)
Old 04-12-2011, 06:47 PM   #9
Lakesrider
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,129
Thanks: 380
Thanked 1,016 Times in 345 Posts
Default

The docks are free at 19 mile bay. It is open about 50 yards out. 20 Mile Bay is just starting to get some open water near RT109. Ice is looking very Gray now......
Lakesrider is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Lakesrider For This Useful Post:
Grant (04-13-2011)
Old 04-13-2011, 09:04 AM   #10
fpartri497
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Concord NH
Posts: 681
Thanks: 97
Thanked 48 Times in 39 Posts
Default Ice Out

the docks at WAM are mostly Ice free now and the channel looks wide open. there Is some Ice floating around the middle of the docks. I would think It will be totally Ice free by the end of the week.

__________________
dont worry be happy
fpartri497 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to fpartri497 For This Useful Post:
winniforlife (04-13-2011)
Old 04-13-2011, 09:26 AM   #11
Slickcraft
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Welch Island and The Taylor Community
Posts: 3,386
Thanks: 1,260
Thanked 2,148 Times in 983 Posts
Default

From the Ames Farm area the ice is very dark and broken into many medium size sheets. A good wind would start to break this up.

Looking from Belknap Point today toward Welch and Round the gaps are fewer and the ice is not as dark, this will take a little longer.
Slickcraft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 10:33 AM   #12
Steveo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 526
Thanks: 47
Thanked 123 Times in 63 Posts
Default Photos!!!!

Photos, we want PHOTOS!!!!

Please
Steveo is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Steveo For This Useful Post:
Webbsatwinni (04-14-2011)
Old 04-13-2011, 10:37 AM   #13
Grant
Senior Member
 
Grant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Pennsyltuckey, Tuftonboro, Moultonborough
Posts: 1,510
Thanks: 387
Thanked 234 Times in 128 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
Photos, we want PHOTOS!!!!

Please
Here you go. Real-time.

Don't say I never gave you anything.
__________________
"When I die, please don't let my wife sell my dive gear for what I told her I paid for it."
Grant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 01:49 PM   #14
Rattlesnake Gal
Senior Member
 
Rattlesnake Gal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Central NH
Posts: 5,253
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 1,455
Thanked 1,357 Times in 476 Posts
Talking Pictures from Mid-Day Today

For those of you checking into the Forum after dark, here are the webcam pictures from mid day today, April, 13th.

Silver Lake in Hollis had ice-out either Sunday or Monday and is usually one week ahead of Lake Winnipesaukee.


Alton Bay Cam


BearCam2


Black Cat Island Cam


Downing's Landing


2011 Echo Shores Ice-Out Watch, by DRH


FairhavenCam



Governors Island Cam


Moultonborough Bay Cam


Overlook Cam on Paugus Bay


Pine Island South Cam



Rattlesnake IslandCam
2011 Ice-Out, by Island Girl

Photo for April 13th has not been posted yet.
Silver Sands Ice-Out Picture of the day


SmithCoveCam


Varney Point Cam, Gilford



WeirsCam


WinnipesaukeeCam


WinnipesaukeeCam 2


WolfeboroCam


Other Area Lakes:


Lake Wentworth Cam


Merrymeeting Lake Webcam


Winnisquam Marine Webcam



Ossipee Lake Webcams

The ice is really taking a beating with this rain!
Rattlesnake Gal is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Rattlesnake Gal For This Useful Post:
AB_Monterey (04-14-2011), Merrymeeting (04-13-2011), Nauti Crew (04-14-2011), Rattlesnake Guy (04-13-2011), Sunset Bob (04-13-2011)
Old 04-13-2011, 02:08 PM   #15
codeman671
Senior Member
 
codeman671's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,604
Thanks: 223
Thanked 856 Times in 519 Posts
Default

Pictures as promised. Starting left to right, leaving Mark to head towards Cattle Landing, looking off my dock towards Mink, looking off my deck across to Camp Lawrence, and looking left off my dock towards Bear, to the left of Lawrence.
Attached Images
    
codeman671 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to codeman671 For This Useful Post:
Bear Island South (04-13-2011), Bear247 (04-14-2011), Diana (04-14-2011), Mink Islander (04-14-2011), Nauti Crew (04-14-2011), Rattlesnake Gal (04-13-2011), Sunset Bob (04-14-2011), Webbsatwinni (04-14-2011)
Old 04-14-2011, 06:46 AM   #16
nhd
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 39
Thanks: 18
Thanked 53 Times in 15 Posts
Default

I took these at 6:30 am from the house. The ice which was white two days ago off of Rattlesnake turned gray after yesterday's rain. It is difficult to get pictures towards Center Harbor but it also looks gray. Wind is blowing down the Lake so should help move this gray around some.
Attached Images
   
nhd is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to nhd For This Useful Post:
fpartri497 (04-14-2011), Grady223 (04-14-2011), Just Sold (04-14-2011), Merrymeeting (04-14-2011), Nauti Crew (04-14-2011), Rattlesnake Gal (04-14-2011), Sunset Bob (04-14-2011), Webbsatwinni (04-14-2011)
Old 04-14-2011, 08:25 AM   #17
Grady223
Senior Member
 
Grady223's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: New Hope, PA & Barndoor Island
Posts: 465
Thanks: 93
Thanked 24 Times in 18 Posts
Default

Thanks to all for posting pictures. It is unbelievable the progress in the last few days. My 4/17 may not be that far off base.
Grady223 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:01 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

This page was generated in 0.17195 seconds