federal motorcycle helmet law proposed

Happy Gourmand · 11-19-2010, 09:20 AM

If you have a 16.99 brain, then a 16.99 helmet will do just fine!!

fatlazyless · 11-19-2010, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Phantom Gourmand

If you have a 16.99 brain, then a 16.99 helmet will do just fine!!

...ok...so if I have a $396 full-face Shoei and decide to remove it after crossing from Mass into NH....what's the message there? ......it's.....Welcome to New Hampshire....the LIVE FREE or DIE state......and furthermore....it's not an empty helmet.....it's my personal freedom....Live Free or Die! ..

...say hey....no surprise that a 16.99 helmet goes a long way for safety on a bicycle, snow skis, ice skates or tennis court.....

...dumb question of the day.....what's better? ....wearing a $16.99 helmet or not wearing a $396 helmet...? dumb answer of the day ....if I decide not to wear it, that's my problem!

hancoveguy · 11-19-2010, 11:49 PM

I am throwing a b/s flag on the play. If I am up to date on my insurance and not legally required to wear a helmet, ie in NH or ME etc, the insurance WILL be covering me regardless of how stupid I am...Scoured the policy and nowhere does add an overly restrictive clause that punishes for adhering to the law of the state I am traveling in. Same goes for seatbelts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fully paid policy = coverage!

Exception- Military personnel. While on active duty, regardless of a states helmet law/seatbelt law, the military member is in violation of the UCMJ and will void their Gov't guaranteed life insurance. FYI- the military also requires a road guard vest (orange flag man's vest) as well while riding a motor cycle on or off base.

One little known advantage of a state that has a helmet law. Motorcycle theft is exponentially lower. Who carries a helmet just in case they wanna steal a bike? Who can get very far on a stolen bike with no helmet?

No opinion on the helmet law. If there is a law, I wear the DOT certified helmet. If there is no law, I wear said helmet 75-85% of the time.

Seatbelt law- I WILL not wear a seatbelt.

HCG
P.s.
I practice what I preach, as a police officer, I have never and will never issue a seatbelt ticket. But... I will ticket and tow a bike for no helmet or a blatant non-DOT helmet.

trfour · 11-20-2010, 01:11 AM

I had stored my 750 SS four Cylinder Super Sport and tuned, in Nashua for the winter. Picked it up in the spring and was on my way home on route three south. I got one of those looks in the rear view mirrors that said to me that someone behind me was speeding, closing fast, and in a defensive move I chose to get over into the breakdown lane to keep from being hit or overrun from behind. Well when I got into the breakdown lane, it was frozen with snow still covering the guardrails that would melt during the day and freeze during the evening. I was waring a DOT approved full faced helmet that very likely saved my life this day. It cracked on impact with my head hitting the roadway, along with many fractured ribs that I didn't find out about until I visited my doctor about a week later after reaching down behind my stereo to hook up some more speakers when I heard a crack and got some more pain.

Live Free Or Die is cool, just be alive.

Terry
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ishoot308 · 11-20-2010, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hancoveguy

I am throwing a b/s flag on the play. If I am up to date on my insurance and not legally required to wear a helmet, ie in NH or ME etc, the insurance WILL be covering me regardless of how stupid I am...Scoured the policy and nowhere does add an overly restrictive clause that punishes for adhering to the law of the state I am traveling in. Same goes for seatbelts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fully paid policy = coverage!

Exception- Military personnel. While on active duty, regardless of a states helmet law/seatbelt law, the military member is in violation of the UCMJ and will void their Gov't guaranteed life insurance. FYI- the military also requires a road guard vest (orange flag man's vest) as well while riding a motor cycle on or off base.

One little known advantage of a state that has a helmet law. Motorcycle theft is exponentially lower. Who carries a helmet just in case they wanna steal a bike? Who can get very far on a stolen bike with no helmet?

No opinion on the helmet law. If there is a law, I wear the DOT certified helmet. If there is no law, I wear said helmet 75-85% of the time.

Seatbelt law- I WILL not wear a seatbelt.

HCG
P.s.
I practice what I preach, as a police officer, I have never and will never issue a seatbelt ticket. But... I will ticket and tow a bike for no helmet or a blatant non-DOT helmet.

Hancoveguy;

Great honest reply! I am curious however, being a Police officer (thank you for your service!) in Massachusetts, what is it about seat belts you dislike, the forced law or do you not agree about the safety factor they supposedly provide.

Thanks!!

Dan

RailroadJoe · 11-20-2010, 03:07 PM

Not my remark, but, me I do not like the FORCED law telling me what to do to save my life.

hancoveguy · 11-20-2010, 03:20 PM

I cannot dispute the safety factor whatsoever. I just don't think that it makes that much difference that it would/should warrant a law that the people of the commonwealth have voted down atleast twice. Cars are built so much better than in days gone by. I responded to a head on crash between 2 Nissan Pathfinders. Directly head on at 40 mph, front and side curatin airbags deployed, one wearing a seatbelt and one not. On arrival both driver's were outside exchanging paperwork and joking around. So, yes I think seatbelts are a good idea, but no they shouldn't force anyone to wear one.

Additionally, the people of Mass have repeatedly voted the law down and will still not allow the legislature to make it primary enforcement (police can stop for not wearing seatbelt with no other violation). Yet, our esteemed law makers, because they wanted the federal highway safety money, continued to vote the law in. If they cared about the safety of the motoring public they would strengthen the existing OUI laws but they don't, they just want the seatbelt law so they can get the federal money.

Anyway, .02 more cents from me,
HCG

hancoveguy · 11-20-2010, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ishoot308

Hancoveguy;

being a Police officer (thank you for your service!) in Massachusetts,

Dan

Oh yeah, almost forgot. My service is absolutely my pleasure, I am glad to do it. Thank you for your appreciation.

HCG

11-19-2010, 09:20 AM	#1
Happy Gourmand Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ruskin FL Posts: 1,027 Thanks: 188 Thanked 322 Times in 179 Posts	16.99 Helmet If you have a 16.99 brain, then a 16.99 helmet will do just fine!!

11-20-2010, 01:11 AM	#4
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,067 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	The Gift Of Life, You Decide... I had stored my 750 SS four Cylinder Super Sport and tuned, in Nashua for the winter. Picked it up in the spring and was on my way home on route three south. I got one of those looks in the rear view mirrors that said to me that someone behind me was speeding, closing fast, and in a defensive move I chose to get over into the breakdown lane to keep from being hit or overrun from behind. Well when I got into the breakdown lane, it was frozen with snow still covering the guardrails that would melt during the day and freeze during the evening. I was waring a DOT approved full faced helmet that very likely saved my life this day. It cracked on impact with my head hitting the roadway, along with many fractured ribs that I didn't find out about until I visited my doctor about a week later after reaching down behind my stereo to hook up some more speakers when I heard a crack and got some more pain. Live Free Or Die is cool, just be alive. Terry ______________________________________ __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

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11-19-2010, 11:49 PM	#3
hancoveguy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 276 Thanks: 95 Thanked 65 Times in 30 Posts	I am throwing a b/s flag on the play. If I am up to date on my insurance and not legally required to wear a helmet, ie in NH or ME etc, the insurance WILL be covering me regardless of how stupid I am...Scoured the policy and nowhere does add an overly restrictive clause that punishes for adhering to the law of the state I am traveling in. Same goes for seatbelts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fully paid policy = coverage! Exception- Military personnel. While on active duty, regardless of a states helmet law/seatbelt law, the military member is in violation of the UCMJ and will void their Gov't guaranteed life insurance. FYI- the military also requires a road guard vest (orange flag man's vest) as well while riding a motor cycle on or off base. One little known advantage of a state that has a helmet law. Motorcycle theft is exponentially lower. Who carries a helmet just in case they wanna steal a bike? Who can get very far on a stolen bike with no helmet? No opinion on the helmet law. If there is a law, I wear the DOT certified helmet. If there is no law, I wear said helmet 75-85% of the time. Seatbelt law- I WILL not wear a seatbelt. HCG P.s. I practice what I preach, as a police officer, I have never and will never issue a seatbelt ticket. But... I will ticket and tow a bike for no helmet or a blatant non-DOT helmet.

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11-20-2010, 03:07 PM	#6
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	Not my remark, but, me I do not like the FORCED law telling me what to do to save my life.

11-20-2010, 03:20 PM	#7
hancoveguy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 276 Thanks: 95 Thanked 65 Times in 30 Posts	I cannot dispute the safety factor whatsoever. I just don't think that it makes that much difference that it would/should warrant a law that the people of the commonwealth have voted down atleast twice. Cars are built so much better than in days gone by. I responded to a head on crash between 2 Nissan Pathfinders. Directly head on at 40 mph, front and side curatin airbags deployed, one wearing a seatbelt and one not. On arrival both driver's were outside exchanging paperwork and joking around. So, yes I think seatbelts are a good idea, but no they shouldn't force anyone to wear one. Additionally, the people of Mass have repeatedly voted the law down and will still not allow the legislature to make it primary enforcement (police can stop for not wearing seatbelt with no other violation). Yet, our esteemed law makers, because they wanted the federal highway safety money, continued to vote the law in. If they cared about the safety of the motoring public they would strengthen the existing OUI laws but they don't, they just want the seatbelt law so they can get the federal money. Anyway, .02 more cents from me, HCG

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