On Golden Pond/What About Bob

Island Girl · 03-05-2005, 08:55 PM

It has taken me a while to prove that the hump is not Rattlesnake Island, but here it is... this is a shot of Black Point in Alton.

Watch the movie and you will see all of the same mountain formations as in this picture.

Cal · 03-05-2005, 11:11 PM

It sure looks like you're correct IG. Good job. That had to be a labor of love

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JTA · 03-06-2005, 12:34 AM

Very nice IG, but I notice that the boat is running in water, not ice. The scene must be somewhere in the Carribean.

glennsteely · 03-06-2005, 08:11 AM

But, it still proves it was filmed on the lake right? Great job IG, and what a beautiful picture, how cold was it out there?

Grant · 03-06-2005, 11:42 AM

Being able to see Mt. Major in your photo provides an additional reference point not visible in the still from the movie. Good stuff!

g

DRH · 03-06-2005, 01:01 PM

We looked at the individual frames showing that scene with Billy too, and IG's absolutely right about the location.

By the way, gtxrider is correct, too, in his 11/13/04 post about Billy being on the wrong side of the boat. In most of the shots he is (correctly) on the right side, but in one short scene they reversed the image and he is driving on the left side.

Old Hubbard Rd · 03-06-2005, 08:12 PM

After reading all these comments I just had to go to ebay and buy a dvd of On Golden Pond. Got a great deal too!! Only $4.11 plus shipping!!

glennsteely · 03-07-2005, 06:48 AM

It is one of the greatest films of all time......command acting from the whole cast.......Good Watching......GS

DRH · 03-07-2005, 01:12 PM

Being retired has its advantages ... spare time!

I found a frame of Billy in the boat that matches IG's picture almost perfectly. There's no doubt that she has correctly identified the background in that scene. Here's a comparison of her picture to the new frame from the movie:

Island Girl's Photo (slightly cropped version of her original picture)

Scene From Movie

Island Girl · 03-07-2005, 01:47 PM

Good job, DRH... You got a good match! You have a good excuse, retirement. I am not sure what mine is. Dogged persistence perhaps.

Mee-n-Mac · 03-09-2005, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Island Girl

Good job, DRH... You got a good match! You have a good excuse, retirement. I am not sure what mine is. Dogged persistence perhaps.

Amazing detective work ! Did you have a hunch about the locale or did you just happen to "see it" one day ?!? In either case you have a very good eye for detail !!

So now (to everyone) who can ID, and match with a picture, the other photo posted by the Webmaster. Again I beleive it's in the Varneys but there's buoys missing if I'm correct. As soon as the boat goes in I'll be up there to try to match the pic (unless IG beats me to it, drats I have no "hard water" craft

)

Island Girl · 03-09-2005, 08:15 PM

I just knew it was not Rattlesnake Island. If you watch the movie frame by frame you will see that there was no Diamond Island , no Sleeper's Island and no Copple Crown where they should have been. Also at some point the viewer should have seen two humps. I could see what looked like Rt 11 in the background and went looking for a view with that in the background and a "hump". The geology of the area has many humps and points, much like the volcanos in Hawaii. Rattlesnake's two humps are so prominent because they sit in the middle of the lake, but there are many other humps like them that surround the lake...... or I spend too much time sitting around looking at the mountains!

I do not know the exact location of the island in the other picture, but am pretty sure it is in the Varney's. Someone else must know...

Bizer · 03-10-2005, 01:15 AM

The island in the other picture is Long Pine, the southernmost of the Varney Islands. Barndoor is the island behind Long Pine. Clay Point can be seen behind and left of Barndoor Island. The camera is facing almost due west.

Mee-n-Mac · 03-10-2005, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bizer

The island in the other picture is Long Pine, the southernmost of the Varney Islands. Barndoor is the island behind Long Pine. Clay Point can be seen behind and left of Barndoor Island. The camera is facing almost due west.

So now the question is where are the buoys ? Am I correct in thinking that theres a big rock just off the end of the island (Long Pine) and that there are a couple of buoys marking it ? Or am I thinking of the wrong Varney ? You can go btw the island and the buoy or the shore and the companion buoy but don't split the buoys ! I would have thought they would have been visible in the picture. Of course (as previously suggested) they may have been "Photoshopped out".

GWC... · 03-10-2005, 03:09 PM

A memory refresher for those more distant from the Lake...

Hint: Look at lower right portion of map for area being discussed.

DRH · 03-10-2005, 07:09 PM

I will try to go over to that specific area tomorrow by snowmobile and take a picture for comparison.

DRH · 03-11-2005, 08:27 PM

Mee-n-Mac is right ... there is a black & white marker just south of Long Pine Island ... but it's not there in the movie. (In fact, it wasn't there today either!

A winter casualty, maybe?) Maybe they "Photoshopped" it out in the movie, or maybe they just weighed it down below the surface while they made the shot.

Photo Taken Today of Long Pine Island

Billy Going By Long Pine Island

Mee-n-Mac · 03-11-2005, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRH

Mee-n-Mac is right ... there is a black & white marker just south of Long Pine Island ... but it's not there in the movie. (In fact, it wasn't there today either!

A winter casualty, maybe?) Maybe they "Photoshopped" it out in the movie, or maybe they just weighed it down below the surface while they made the shot.

That makes it 2 'fer 2 on photo ID's ! You're probably right about weighting down the bouys for the shoot. I hadn't even thought of that

Too much time spent at the computer I guess

Looking at Billy's course I would have thought he was mighty close to that rock off the end of the island but I'll guess he's just inside of it, towards the island end. I'm amazed on how similar the island trees look after all these years.

So anybody know of any other scenes filmed on Winni we can positively ID ? Someone else thought the boat crash scene was in the loon sanctuary ... ? I wonder if there's an OGP forum out there asking just where on Winni certain scenes were filmed

glennsteely · 03-12-2005, 12:08 PM

Better To I.d. The Lake With My Dear.......you Guys Are Truly Amazing.....thanks For The Research, And The Flicks......gs

Rattlesnake Gal · 03-16-2006, 09:29 AM

In response to the Ice-Out/Springtime Rituals thread…

Another continuity goof is in scene 3 when Norman and Ethel are in the canoe watching two loons with binoculars. When a motorboat comes into view, the loons take on a fake, wooden, un-loon-like look.

(You can’t fool me with bad decoys!

)
(I hope I didn't miss seeing this tid-bit in a previous post!

)

Grant · 03-16-2006, 09:36 AM

Loon Actor's Guild (LAG) guidelines mandate the use of wooden stunt loons in scenes involving motoboats.

mcdude · 03-16-2006, 10:42 AM

Nothing on the Squam Lakes webpage but there is this blurb on the Squam Lakes Chamber of Commerce Page

Squam Lakes Chamber of Commerce

Squam Lakes Forum link seems not to be functioning.

Weirs guy · 03-17-2006, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRH

Photo Taken Today of Long Pine Island

A little off topic, but what a diffrence a year makes. Today we're watching the ice disappear before our eyes, last year it still looked like winter.

Orion · 03-17-2006, 04:40 PM

The boat crash scene and the house are on Squam Lake. I think "Purgatory Cove" is on the north side of Moon Is or one of the adjacent islands. It's been a while since I've been there. The house is on the SW side of Center Harbor Neck on Squam.

wildwoodfam · 04-11-2006, 08:13 PM

Watched it this evening - a good primer to the start of the season!

I had seen a documentary on the filming - the boat crash scene was filmed on Winnipesaukee over near Kensington - the loon sanctuary area. The boat ride scene was filmed in the broads on Winnie - everything else was on Squam. Except the interiors - which were filmed in studio in Hollywood.

GREAT MOVIE!! A real tear jerker

- but gets you in the mood to head to the lake!

Gatto Nero · 06-14-2006, 02:43 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13319129/

4Fun · 06-14-2006, 03:05 PM

Great movie... Of the two screen shots shown how many RSAs can you see being broken!!

150ft Rule (both shots)
Give way boat (1st shot)

NHKathy · 06-14-2006, 03:16 PM

Believe it or not, I just finally saw On Golden Pond for the 1st time this past weekend. I had never seen it even though I had heard so much about it -(was not a huge "movie renter" until I finally joined Netflix). What a great movie! I am definately gonna have to BUY it now - I could watch it over and over again, just for the wonderful scenery alone! I must own it! Neat to know that my 1st viewing of the movie was in it's 25th anniversary year!
Awesome movie!

jceria · 06-15-2006, 12:40 PM

I remember seeing a episode of the Three Stooges. If I remember right....
Moe ask's Curly, "where were ya born?" Curly replies..."Lake Winnipasaukee!"
Moe: "How do ya spell it?" Curly" W-I-N-N-I......never mine I was born at....."

gtxrider · 03-07-2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Island Girl

It has taken me a while to prove that the hump is not Rattlesnake Island, but here it is... this is a shot of Black Point in Alton.

Watch the movie and you will see all of the same mountain formations as in this picture.

Island Girl,

Were you heading away from Alton Bay or towards the Bay?
Tell me you shot the picture heading home driving backwards at speed.

Anyway, nice shot! I wish I were ice and snow or open water.

Island Girl · 03-07-2005, 08:58 PM

LOL...

I am hoping for a little more snow. My sled comes out of the shop this week and I would like another weekend or two out there. Then a quick ice out.

Grady223 · 03-11-2005, 05:40 PM

Island Girl, still not sure I understand which veiw this is. Is it looking west with my back to Wolfeboro toward the mouth of Alton Bay?

Island Girl · 03-11-2005, 06:11 PM

It is looking south. The mouth of Alton Bay is in the middle of the screen.

Wolfeboro Neck was behind me.

03-05-2005, 08:55 PM	#1
Island Girl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Central MA Posts: 2,358 Thanks: 18 Thanked 577 Times in 183 Posts	Definitely not Rattlesnake... It has taken me a while to prove that the hump is not Rattlesnake Island, but here it is... this is a shot of Black Point in Alton. Watch the movie and you will see all of the same mountain formations as in this picture. __________________ Island Girl ....... Make Lemonade

03-05-2005, 11:11 PM	#2
Cal Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pitman , NJ Posts: 627 Thanks: 40 Thanked 21 Times in 12 Posts	It sure looks like you're correct IG. Good job. That had to be a labor of love . __________________ Paddle faster , I think I here banjos

03-06-2005, 12:34 AM	#3
JTA Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fort Pierce, Florida Posts: 233 Thanks: 34 Thanked 25 Times in 21 Posts	Good detective work but .... Very nice IG, but I notice that the boat is running in water, not ice. The scene must be somewhere in the Carribean.

03-06-2005, 08:11 AM	#4
glennsteely Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mantua, N.J. Posts: 472 Thanks: 90 Thanked 111 Times in 38 Posts	Wow, I guess you hit that one right on the "point".... But, it still proves it was filmed on the lake right? Great job IG, and what a beautiful picture, how cold was it out there? __________________ You have to go out on a limb sometimes, cause that is where the fruit is. You can't get to the fruit from that nice safe spot, clinging to the trunk of the tree......

03-06-2005, 11:42 AM	#5
Grant Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pennsyltuckey, Tuftonboro, Moultonborough Posts: 1,510 Thanks: 387 Thanked 234 Times in 128 Posts	Alton Angle Being able to see Mt. Major in your photo provides an additional reference point not visible in the still from the movie. Good stuff! g __________________ "When I die, please don't let my wife sell my dive gear for what I told her I paid for it."

03-06-2005, 01:01 PM	#6
DRH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Meredith Posts: 1,698 Thanks: 1,211 Thanked 678 Times in 180 Posts	She's right! We looked at the individual frames showing that scene with Billy too, and IG's absolutely right about the location. By the way, gtxrider is correct, too, in his 11/13/04 post about Billy being on the wrong side of the boat. In most of the shots he is (correctly) on the right side, but in one short scene they reversed the image and he is driving on the left side. __________________ DRH

03-06-2005, 08:12 PM	#7
Old Hubbard Rd Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 462 Thanks: 141 Thanked 54 Times in 33 Posts	On Golden Pond-Just had to get my copy!! After reading all these comments I just had to go to ebay and buy a dvd of On Golden Pond. Got a great deal too!! Only $4.11 plus shipping!!

03-07-2005, 06:48 AM	#8
glennsteely Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mantua, N.J. Posts: 472 Thanks: 90 Thanked 111 Times in 38 Posts	Smart buy!!!!! It is one of the greatest films of all time......command acting from the whole cast.......Good Watching......GS __________________ You have to go out on a limb sometimes, cause that is where the fruit is. You can't get to the fruit from that nice safe spot, clinging to the trunk of the tree......

03-07-2005, 01:12 PM	#9
DRH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Meredith Posts: 1,698 Thanks: 1,211 Thanked 678 Times in 180 Posts	No Doubt About It! Being retired has its advantages ... spare time! I found a frame of Billy in the boat that matches IG's picture almost perfectly. There's no doubt that she has correctly identified the background in that scene. Here's a comparison of her picture to the new frame from the movie: Island Girl's Photo (slightly cropped version of her original picture) Scene From Movie __________________ DRH

03-07-2005, 01:47 PM	#10
Island Girl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Central MA Posts: 2,358 Thanks: 18 Thanked 577 Times in 183 Posts	Perfect Good job, DRH... You got a good match! You have a good excuse, retirement. I am not sure what mine is. Dogged persistence perhaps. __________________ Island Girl ....... Make Lemonade Last edited by Island Girl; 03-07-2005 at 04:04 PM.

03-09-2005, 08:15 PM	#12
Island Girl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Central MA Posts: 2,358 Thanks: 18 Thanked 577 Times in 183 Posts	My Island has two humps I just knew it was not Rattlesnake Island. If you watch the movie frame by frame you will see that there was no Diamond Island , no Sleeper's Island and no Copple Crown where they should have been. Also at some point the viewer should have seen two humps. I could see what looked like Rt 11 in the background and went looking for a view with that in the background and a "hump". The geology of the area has many humps and points, much like the volcanos in Hawaii. Rattlesnake's two humps are so prominent because they sit in the middle of the lake, but there are many other humps like them that surround the lake...... or I spend too much time sitting around looking at the mountains! I do not know the exact location of the island in the other picture, but am pretty sure it is in the Varney's. Someone else must know... __________________ Island Girl ....... Make Lemonade

03-10-2005, 01:15 AM	#13
Bizer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 338 Thanks: 0 Thanked 250 Times in 83 Posts	The island in the other picture is Long Pine, the southernmost of the Varney Islands. Barndoor is the island behind Long Pine. Clay Point can be seen behind and left of Barndoor Island. The camera is facing almost due west.

03-10-2005, 03:09 PM	#15
GWC... Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,325 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Another view by MapTech... A memory refresher for those more distant from the Lake... Hint: Look at lower right portion of map for area being discussed.

03-10-2005, 07:09 PM	#16
DRH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Meredith Posts: 1,698 Thanks: 1,211 Thanked 678 Times in 180 Posts	I will try to go over to that specific area tomorrow by snowmobile and take a picture for comparison. __________________ DRH

03-11-2005, 08:27 PM	#17
DRH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Meredith Posts: 1,698 Thanks: 1,211 Thanked 678 Times in 180 Posts	Here's the Photo Mee-n-Mac is right ... there is a black & white marker just south of Long Pine Island ... but it's not there in the movie. (In fact, it wasn't there today either! A winter casualty, maybe?) Maybe they "Photoshopped" it out in the movie, or maybe they just weighed it down below the surface while they made the shot. Photo Taken Today of Long Pine Island Billy Going By Long Pine Island __________________ DRH

03-12-2005, 12:08 PM	#19
glennsteely Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mantua, N.J. Posts: 472 Thanks: 90 Thanked 111 Times in 38 Posts	Wow.....what Big Eyes You Have...... Better To I.d. The Lake With My Dear.......you Guys Are Truly Amazing.....thanks For The Research, And The Flicks......gs __________________ You have to go out on a limb sometimes, cause that is where the fruit is. You can't get to the fruit from that nice safe spot, clinging to the trunk of the tree......

03-16-2006, 09:29 AM	#20
Rattlesnake Gal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central NH Posts: 5,253 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,455 Thanked 1,357 Times in 476 Posts	Another OGP Continuity Goof! In response to the Ice-Out/Springtime Rituals thread… Another continuity goof is in scene 3 when Norman and Ethel are in the canoe watching two loons with binoculars. When a motorboat comes into view, the loons take on a fake, wooden, un-loon-like look. (You can’t fool me with bad decoys! ) (I hope I didn't miss seeing this tid-bit in a previous post! )

03-16-2006, 09:36 AM	#21
Grant Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pennsyltuckey, Tuftonboro, Moultonborough Posts: 1,510 Thanks: 387 Thanked 234 Times in 128 Posts	Loon Actor's Guild (LAG) guidelines mandate the use of wooden stunt loons in scenes involving motoboats. __________________ "When I die, please don't let my wife sell my dive gear for what I told her I paid for it."

03-16-2006, 10:42 AM	#22
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,343 Thanks: 370 Thanked 1,033 Times in 480 Posts	Nothing on the Squam Lakes webpage but there is this blurb on the Squam Lakes Chamber of Commerce Page Squam Lakes Chamber of Commerce Squam Lakes Forum link seems not to be functioning.

03-17-2006, 04:40 PM	#24
Orion Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 914 Thanks: 598 Thanked 193 Times in 91 Posts	boat crash scene The boat crash scene and the house are on Squam Lake. I think "Purgatory Cove" is on the north side of Moon Is or one of the adjacent islands. It's been a while since I've been there. The house is on the SW side of Center Harbor Neck on Squam.

04-11-2006, 08:13 PM	#25
wildwoodfam Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Andover, MA & summers up at the BIG lake Posts: 285 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Was on FLIX tonight! Watched it this evening - a good primer to the start of the season! I had seen a documentary on the filming - the boat crash scene was filmed on Winnipesaukee over near Kensington - the loon sanctuary area. The boat ride scene was filmed in the broads on Winnie - everything else was on Squam. Except the interiors - which were filmed in studio in Hollywood. GREAT MOVIE!! A real tear jerker - but gets you in the mood to head to the lake!

06-14-2006, 02:43 PM	#26
Gatto Nero Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Isola Gatto Nero Posts: 697 Thanks: 162 Thanked 263 Times in 81 Posts	On Golden Pond marks 25th http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13319129/ __________________ La vita è buona su Isola Gatto Nero

06-14-2006, 03:05 PM	#27
4Fun Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 283 Thanks: 1 Thanked 66 Times in 38 Posts	Great movie... Of the two screen shots shown how many RSAs can you see being broken!! 150ft Rule (both shots) Give way boat (1st shot)

06-14-2006, 03:16 PM	#28
NHKathy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moultonborough when I can / RI Posts: 699 Thanks: 180 Thanked 38 Times in 22 Posts	What a great movie!! Believe it or not, I just finally saw On Golden Pond for the 1st time this past weekend. I had never seen it even though I had heard so much about it -(was not a huge "movie renter" until I finally joined Netflix). What a great movie! I am definately gonna have to BUY it now - I could watch it over and over again, just for the wonderful scenery alone! I must own it! Neat to know that my 1st viewing of the movie was in it's 25th anniversary year! Awesome movie!

06-15-2006, 12:40 PM	#29
jceria Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Three Stooges I remember seeing a episode of the Three Stooges. If I remember right.... Moe ask's Curly, "where were ya born?" Curly replies..."Lake Winnipasaukee!" Moe: "How do ya spell it?" Curly" W-I-N-N-I......never mine I was born at....." __________________ On the Concord River

03-07-2005, 08:58 PM	#31
Island Girl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Central MA Posts: 2,358 Thanks: 18 Thanked 577 Times in 183 Posts	....and standing on my head LOL... I am hoping for a little more snow. My sled comes out of the shop this week and I would like another weekend or two out there. Then a quick ice out. __________________ Island Girl ....... Make Lemonade

03-11-2005, 05:40 PM	#32
Grady223 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Hope, PA & Barndoor Island Posts: 465 Thanks: 93 Thanked 24 Times in 18 Posts	Alton Bay? Island Girl, still not sure I understand which veiw this is. Is it looking west with my back to Wolfeboro toward the mouth of Alton Bay?

03-11-2005, 06:11 PM	#33
Island Girl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Central MA Posts: 2,358 Thanks: 18 Thanked 577 Times in 183 Posts	South! It is looking south. The mouth of Alton Bay is in the middle of the screen. Wolfeboro Neck was behind me. __________________ Island Girl ....... Make Lemonade

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