Signs, signs, everywhere a sign...

Argie's Wife · 09-22-2010, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pineedles

AW,
It was a bit of a rant, sorry. I just came back from replacing a sign that was thrown into a creek on private property twice in the past two weeks. Signs are expensive for the candidates and volunteers like myself take time out of their schedules to try and make a difference by helping their candidates. I guess I just went off the deep end when I see folks complaining about signs.

I wasn't offended; I have a thicker skin than that. But thank you for your post. I've always liked reading you here on the forum and appreciate your views - even when we don't agree.

I've seen signs removed, thrown down, driven over, and defaced in the name of "politics"... not good sportsmanship if you ask me.

RI Swamp Yankee · 09-22-2010, 11:07 AM

Since the state needs money here is a way to generate revenue (keep in mind I have read too may FLL posts )

The state (or towns) could collect all signs left up past the time allowed by law and "redeem" them, perhaps charging candidates $20 per square foot for the total footage "redeemed". Example, 100 signs collected, each 2 square feet equals 200 square feet times $20 equals $4,000 owed by the name on the sign. Maybe the "cost" would encourage them to remove them rather than paying to have them "redeemed".

wifi · 09-22-2010, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RI Swamp Yankee

Since the state needs money here is a way to generate revenue (keep in mind I have read too may FLL posts )

The state (or towns) could collect all signs left up past the time allowed by law and "redeem" them, perhaps charging candidates $20 per square foot for the total footage "redeemed". Example, 100 signs collected, each 2 square feet equals 200 square feet times $20 equals $4,000 owed by the name on the sign. Maybe the "cost" would encourage them to remove them rather than paying to have them "redeemed".

Imagine what damage someone could do by putting out signs with their enemies name on them

steadyon · 09-22-2010, 01:08 PM

Hi all,
Here is another point of view.
I am a candidate. My friends, family have contributed their own hard earned $ so that I can purchase and display signs. I agree that too many are annoying and also that they should only be on private property isn't a bad idea either.
what bothers me is that someone is stealing my signs in the night. taking signs is not going to make a candidate loose.
it is a shame that this person has that kind of time on their hands. they could be doing something productive like picking up trash along the road or helping a neighbor.
thanks for listening

jrc · 09-22-2010, 01:24 PM

First of all are these little signs an effective campaign tool? I mean most just say the candidates name. Do people really go into the booth and say let's vote for him I saw his name on the corner? At least tell me what your number one issue is.

Second, they should use paper or other degradable materials for the signs. Those plastic ones fall into the brush and stay for a long time, at least paper would be dissolved into the ground by spring. The press should make this a "green" issue and shame the candidates into it, no need for a law.

Seeker · 09-22-2010, 05:32 PM

I vote for chalkboards.

(Did I spell that right?)

summersux · 09-22-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by steadyon

it is a shame that this person has that kind of time on their hands. they could be doing something productive like picking up trash along the road

Yeah, I think thats what they are doing.

Rattlesnake Guy · 09-22-2010, 08:50 PM

My son worked for a campaign this summer and said it was kind of funny that the state would go around each day and pick up the signs that were put in the wrong places on the state roads. They would dump the pile in the same secret place each day and the campaigns would go and fetch the signs to repeat the process the next day.

Ropetow · 09-23-2010, 09:27 AM

My home community removed the signs of defeated candidates placed on public property a few days to a week after the election. This is a bonanza for other local elected officials, as we can go to the home of the dead signs and pick their bones....the wire stakes signs sit on are not cheap and this is a way to save some $$$ for the next election while also practicing good recycling.

SAMIAM · 09-23-2010, 12:49 PM

There should be a modest fine for every day a political sign is left up after an election.Same for yard sales and other events.We backed a candidate last year for a local election and the very next day we drove around and picked them all up...........cleaned up the roads......and who knows....we might get to re-use them

Ropetow · 09-23-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SAMIAM

There should be a modest fine for every day a political sign is left up after an election.Same for yard sales and other events.We backed a candidate last year for a local election and the very next day we drove around and picked them all up...........cleaned up the roads......and who knows....we might get to re-use them

That's what most candidates for local office tend to do. It seems most of the leftover signs we are still seeing are from statewide candidates who probably don't have a clue where the signs are.

Greene's Basin Girl · 09-23-2010, 10:56 PM

[QUOTE=Ropetow;140393]That's what most candidates for local office tend to do. It seems most of the leftover signs we are still seeing are from statewide candidates who probably don't have a clue where the signs are.[/QUOTE The towns should charge the candidate if the signs are left up. After all the candidate wants everyone to put up his/hers signs all over the place. They are horrible to look at. People need to be responsible for their actions.

RailroadJoe · 09-23-2010, 01:21 PM

My two cents.

We sportsman have a saying or two. One is "Carry out what you carry in" and two "Leave only footprints and take only photos".
Of course we have our "week-enders" that don't follow anything. I still find beer cans and coffee cups a mile or two in the woods, on and off trails.

All-in-all. If you can place the signs out why can't you take them in when its over. Same as the yard sale signs.

gtxrider · 09-24-2010, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ropetow

My home community removed the signs of defeated candidates placed on public property a few days to a week after the election. This is a bonanza for other local elected officials, as we can go to the home of the dead signs and pick their bones....the wire stakes signs sit on are not cheap and this is a way to save some $$$ for the next election while also practicing good recycling.

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I don't know about the NH Primarys but it seems there are a few losers that won't accept defeat and continue to run so their signs can stay up but they would need to change the party.

I saw signs on docks and boat houses cruising the lake this past week. Who takes those signs down?

jeffatsquam · 09-24-2010, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gtxrider

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I don't know about the NH Primarys but it seems there are a few losers that won't accept defeat and continue to run so their signs can stay up but they would need to change the party.

I saw signs on docks and boat houses cruising the lake this past week. Who takes those signs down?

You can only hope the slobs that put them up

09-22-2010, 11:07 AM	#2
RI Swamp Yankee Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North Kingstown RI Posts: 688 Thanks: 143 Thanked 83 Times in 55 Posts	Since the state needs money here is a way to generate revenue (keep in mind I have read too may FLL posts ) The state (or towns) could collect all signs left up past the time allowed by law and "redeem" them, perhaps charging candidates $20 per square foot for the total footage "redeemed". Example, 100 signs collected, each 2 square feet equals 200 square feet times $20 equals $4,000 owed by the name on the sign. Maybe the "cost" would encourage them to remove them rather than paying to have them "redeemed". __________________ Gene ~ aka "another RI Swamp Yankee"

09-23-2010, 09:27 AM	#9
Ropetow Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Rochester, NH / Bartlett, NH Posts: 322 Thanks: 228 Thanked 33 Times in 13 Posts	sign scavanger My home community removed the signs of defeated candidates placed on public property a few days to a week after the election. This is a bonanza for other local elected officials, as we can go to the home of the dead signs and pick their bones....the wire stakes signs sit on are not cheap and this is a way to save some $$$ for the next election while also practicing good recycling.

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steadyon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Meredith Posts: 102 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Hi all, Here is another point of view. I am a candidate. My friends, family have contributed their own hard earned $ so that I can purchase and display signs. I agree that too many are annoying and also that they should only be on private property isn't a bad idea either. what bothers me is that someone is stealing my signs in the night. taking signs is not going to make a candidate loose. it is a shame that this person has that kind of time on their hands. they could be doing something productive like picking up trash along the road or helping a neighbor. thanks for listening

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09-22-2010, 01:24 PM	#5
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	First of all are these little signs an effective campaign tool? I mean most just say the candidates name. Do people really go into the booth and say let's vote for him I saw his name on the corner? At least tell me what your number one issue is. Second, they should use paper or other degradable materials for the signs. Those plastic ones fall into the brush and stay for a long time, at least paper would be dissolved into the ground by spring. The press should make this a "green" issue and shame the candidates into it, no need for a law.

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09-22-2010, 08:50 PM	#8
Rattlesnake Guy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,254 Thanks: 423 Thanked 366 Times in 175 Posts	My son worked for a campaign this summer and said it was kind of funny that the state would go around each day and pick up the signs that were put in the wrong places on the state roads. They would dump the pile in the same secret place each day and the campaigns would go and fetch the signs to repeat the process the next day.

09-23-2010, 12:49 PM	#10
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,937 Thanks: 349 Thanked 1,708 Times in 602 Posts	There should be a modest fine for every day a political sign is left up after an election.Same for yard sales and other events.We backed a candidate last year for a local election and the very next day we drove around and picked them all up...........cleaned up the roads......and who knows....we might get to re-use them

09-23-2010, 10:56 PM	#12
Greene's Basin Girl Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 1,515 Thanks: 394 Thanked 527 Times in 269 Posts	[QUOTE=Ropetow;140393]That's what most candidates for local office tend to do. It seems most of the leftover signs we are still seeing are from statewide candidates who probably don't have a clue where the signs are.[/QUOTE The towns should charge the candidate if the signs are left up. After all the candidate wants everyone to put up his/hers signs all over the place. They are horrible to look at. People need to be responsible for their actions.

09-23-2010, 01:21 PM	#13
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	My two cents. We sportsman have a saying or two. One is "Carry out what you carry in" and two "Leave only footprints and take only photos". Of course we have our "week-enders" that don't follow anything. I still find beer cans and coffee cups a mile or two in the woods, on and off trails. All-in-all. If you can place the signs out why can't you take them in when its over. Same as the yard sale signs.