No Wake at the Barbers Pole...???

[Turtle Boy]

Originally Posted by gtagrip

Could supporters of the NWZ for the BP area please post some video as Hazelnut did to support their arguement rather than all rehtoric that keeps getting posted?

Why in god's name would the BP residents want or need to do so? Their petition for a NWZ has received approval. So now they would want approval from the GFBL crowd as well. Maybe SBONH could get involved and solicit input from around the country (and even China?) as to how they feel about a BP NWZ ("afterall, your channel could be next").

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by Turtle Boy

Why in god's name would the BP residents want or need to do so? Their petition for a NWZ has received approval. So now they would want approval from the GFBL crowd as well. Maybe SBONH could get involved and solicit input from around the country (and even China?) as to how they feel about a BP NWZ ("afterall, your channel could be next").

Hey, look who crawled out from under its shell...

Because the BP residents were not heard from as has been discussed and noted numerous times on this thread. A few families were heard from, not all of the BP residents nor anyone else that will be effected. That is not to say that a NWZ is not warranted, but let the process go through as it should. (Kind of like the SL study that was cut short).

[Turtle Boy]

Originally Posted by VitaBene

Hey, look who crawled out from under its shell...

Because the BP residents were not heard from as has been discussed and noted numerous times on this thread. A few families were heard from, not all of the BP residents nor anyone else that will be effected. That is not to say that a NWZ is not warranted, but let the process go through as it should. (Kind of like the SL study that was cut short).

Huh, let's try to respond to your post, but in English...too much Tanqueray? You know, you can use the edit feature. It does seem that I too put myself in danger of one of your "midnight missives" but the residents of the BP seem to have expressed their concerns quite eloquently. It would seem that there needs to be a rule that SBONH members/officers should not be allowed to correspond on Winni.com after cocktail hour.

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by Turtle Boy

It would seem that there needs to be a rule that SBONH members/officers should not be allowed to correspond on Winni.com after cocktail hour.

Maybe SBONH could get involved and solicit input from around the country (and even China?) as to how they feel about a BP NWZ ("afterall, your channel could be next")

TT, you can make the rules for your organizations as you see fit, but I can assure you that SBONH does not need suggestions regarding its mission or operation from you. If you want to join, that is a different story. Please visit the website and sign up- it's so easy even you can do it!

I have no need to edit my post from last evening, but I will let others read and decide for themselves. In case some are not aware of what TT stands for, I will spell it out: TT=Turtle Troll. Just like the rest of your ilk (ElChase and SOTD), you hide behind your keyboards snickering as you agitate and get threads closed while contributing virtually nothing to any other parts of this site.

BTW, never had gin in my life, Tangueray or otherwise. I am partial to big Napa Valley Cabernets though so if you have any suggestions please pass them on.

Have a good day

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by Turtle Boy

Huh, let's try to respond to your post, but in English...too much Tanqueray? You know, you can use the edit feature. It does seem that I too put myself in danger of one of your "midnight missives" but the residents of the BP seem to have expressed their concerns quite eloquently. It would seem that there needs to be a rule that SBONH members/officers should not be allowed to correspond on Winni.com after cocktail hour.

This is really pathetic and a very low blow. And I suppose none of you and your Winn-Fabs ilk ever touch a drop of alcohol? How many times a day do you people polish your halos? Your self-professed "stronghold" on the lake is about to change direction - swiftly and radically. Just stay tuned and you'll see what I mean. Until then, keep guessing.

[sunset on the dock]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

This is really pathetic and a very low blow. And I suppose none of you and your Winn-Fabs ilk ever touch a drop of alcohol? How many times a day do you people polish your halos? Your self-professed "stronghold" on the lake is about to change direction - swiftly and radically. Just stay tuned and you'll see what I mean. Until then, keep guessing.

Somehow I find that hard to believe especially given the strong bipartisan support in both houses for the SL (hence so what if more Republicans get elected...this was shown to be a reasonably non-partisan issue...in fact the bill was put forth by a Republican). Polls showed most NH residents are in a favor of a SL, and the fact that people approached to sign petitions were well versed and aware of some of Winni's problems and signed in a 10:1 majority was important.
So...I wasn't "guessing" to begin with. Now if you'll excuse me I have a bit of work to do before cocktail hour begins.
You sound like a very angry person.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

You sound like a very angry person.

Thank you for noticing. You get an A+ on your test.

SP

[hazelnut]

Originally Posted by Turtle Boy

Why in god's name would the BP residents want or need to do so? Their petition for a NWZ has received approval. So now they would want approval from the GFBL crowd as well. Maybe SBONH could get involved and solicit input from around the country (and even China?) as to how they feel about a BP NWZ ("afterall, your channel could be next").

Bzzzzzzzt wrong! The residents of the Barbers Pole have not had their say. I can not say this enough. Apparently you and a few others can not (or will not) recognize or understand that two families do not make up "the residents" of the Barbers Pole. If you would like to you could say, "two families and their friends have had their say." That would be acceptable to your argument.

This topic has gone horribly astray from the original post. Let's at least try to stay on topic with this. I was up this weekend and opted not to video. Not because there were any crazy incidents that I am trying to hide. Quite the contrary. It was so windy all weekend that I do not believe it would be fair to post videos of Saturday and Sunday because traffic was so light. If I posted videos that I took this weekend it would have shown very few boats and what few were out would have been seen obeying the laws just about 99% of the time. I saw little if any infractions. It was a holiday weekend but as I said the wind kept many captains on shore.

I saw a number of people go on the wrong side of the marker in the channel. I've never seen anyone hit a rock over there. The more I look at the channel the more I see the best solution being the removal of the few rocks in the channel and subsequently removing the marker. It'll probably never happen though.

I also saw what appeared to be a non-uniformed MP in an MP boat scoping out the channel for a while on Friday. I believe it was Friday. Anyway, could have been Barrett or someone. Hopefully he will render an opinion on this one. I'd be happy to go along with his recommendation, whatever it may be.

[sunset on the dock]

Originally Posted by hazelnut

Bzzzzzzzt wrong!

I saw a number of people go on the wrong side of the marker in the channel. I've never seen anyone hit a rock over there. The more I look at the channel the more I see the best solution being the removal of the few rocks in the channel and subsequently removing the marker.

Now there's an idea. Remove some of the many rocks in the Barber's Pole, one of the better fishing spots on the whole lake, so you and your GFBL friends could tear through the area even less encumbered? REALITY CHECK

[gtagrip]

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

Now there's an idea. Remove some of the many rocks in the Barber's Pole, one of the better fishing spots on the whole lake, so you and your GFBL friends could tear through the area even less encumbered? REALITY CHECK

Why would boats be tearing through the BP if the SL is soooo effective?

[MAXUM]

Originally Posted by gtagrip

Why would boats be tearing through the BP if the SL is soooo effective?

Easy answer - people like SOTD are interested in pushing an agenda, it has nothing to do with the effectiveness of the SL. That's the reason why ridiculous comments like this are made even though they show blatantly that their ideas simply don't work BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION. It's all about power and control based on their idea of how things should be and of course what makes them "feel" good. Some are just so pathetic they can't even make a point without contradiction.

[NoBozo]

Originally Posted by MAXUM

It's all about power and control based on their idea of how things should be and of course what makes them "feel" good. Some are just so pathetic they can't even make a point without contradiction.

The bold above is mine. The other night I typed up a response to a post and strongly suggested that POWER over others was the Real Issue....in the SL case and the NWZ.........and every other wacko law that "some" people ..come up with for the lake.

I deleted my post....then. Now I see I'm not alone in my thoughts. Thanks MAXUM. NB

[Turtle Boy]

Originally Posted by hazelnut

This topic has gone horribly astray from the original post. Let's at least try to stay on topic with this. I was up this weekend and opted not to video. Not because there were any crazy incidents that I am trying to hide. Quite the contrary. It was so windy all weekend that I do not believe it would be fair to post videos of Saturday and Sunday because traffic was so light. If I posted videos that I took this weekend it would have shown very few boats and what few were out would have been seen obeying the laws just about 99% of the time. I saw little if any infractions. It was a holiday weekend but as I said the wind kept many captains on shore.

I saw a number of people go on the wrong side of the marker in the channel. I've never seen anyone hit a rock over there. The more I look at the channel the more I see the best solution being the removal of the few rocks in the channel and subsequently removing the marker. It'll probably never happen though.

You've got to be kidding! Now I've heard everything. While we're at it, let's remove those irritating Twin Islands in Moultonboro Bay. Maybe SBONH could get Jim Forsythe to sponsor it come November if elected. Also, while we're on the topic, that 90 degree ledge on the north side of Diamond Island...how much work would it be to blast it down to 45 degrees at the water line so any boat hitting it at high speed would be directed up and out rather than having an abrupt stop. That little cabin behind the ledge looks like a piece of junk...let's move it back and to the side. The whole project seems as easy or easier than your BP proposal.

Stay tuned next week when we discuss eliminating Devons Island at the Hole in the Wall...talk about another nuisance...and has anyone ever seen people in that one lone cottage there? It's for sure a single (selfish) family standing in the way of improved traffic flow on the lake.

[sunset on the dock]

Originally Posted by hazelnut

I saw a number of people go on the wrong side of the marker in the channel. I've never seen anyone hit a rock over there. The more I look at the channel the more I see the best solution being the removal of the few rocks in the channel and subsequently removing the marker. It'll probably never happen though.

OK, I'll give you this...the Sunset family was brought to tears from laughter. Move the rocks at the Barber's Pole so some of you guys would not need to throttle down? Talk about the tail wagging the dog!!

[chipj29]

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

OK, I'll give you this...the Sunset family was brought to tears from laughter. Move the rocks at the Barber's Pole so some of you guys would not need to throttle down? Talk about the tail wagging the dog!!

If it would increase safety at that particular location, what exactly is so funny about it? It would widen the zone, making it possible for 2 boats to pass on plane (oh the horror!). Why go on and off plane, creating massive waves in the process, when you don't have to?

[MAXUM]

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

Talk about the tail wagging the dog!!

Yeah let's talk about the tail wagging the dog. A small minority of people who push for a NWZ that affects everyone. Then when asked to quantify the reasons why the answers given are either embellishments beyond belief or just plain fictitious.