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Old 12-16-2009, 07:19 PM   #1
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From what I could see it looked like huge white caps in the broads today.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:13 AM   #2
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I have a feeling the lake may not completely freeze this year. The water is usually much colder by this time. It may be an early ice-out, but who knows, we might get a nice long cold snap and that will get us caught up, but not with this wind we've been having!
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Old 12-17-2009, 08:52 AM   #3
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I have a feeling the lake may not completely freeze this year. The water is usually much colder by this time. It may be an early ice-out, but who knows, we might get a nice long cold snap and that will get us caught up, but not with this wind we've been having!
This morning, my thermometer is showing 1.5 degrees and there is a layer of smoke swirling above the water in M'boro bay. The water temperature is catching up to where it is supposed to be, I think.

The winds are supposed to blow pretty good until Friday nite. My guess is that on Saturday morning, north of M'boro bay will be solid and by Monday, may even be safe to carefully venture on.
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Old 12-17-2009, 10:17 AM   #4
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This morning, my thermometer is showing 1.5 degrees and there is a layer of smoke swirling above the water in M'boro bay. The water temperature is catching up to where it is supposed to be, I think.
Yes, a layer of "sea smoke" seen above the waves in Alton Bay and out toward the lower broads. This will suck some of the heat out of the lake. It sure is draining the heat out of the house keeping both a pellet stove and a wood stove busy.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:46 AM   #5
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The next 5 days will really help ice-in... Supposed to be 0 and below at night for the next 4 nights and not about 20 during the day.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:17 PM   #6
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:29 PM   #7
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Despite how cold it was today, the ice seemed to break up more than form as it was so windy. So unless it calms down, I don't think we will make more ice. We had some hooded merganzers floating around the past few days.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:35 AM   #8
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Looks like we are right on the button with last year at this time for water temp, this cold and wind in my opinion is good to get the overall water temp where we need it. If it stays cold and we get some calm nights / days we'll be in good shape.

Let's keep our fingers crossed for the Derby !!
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:10 AM   #9
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The forecast for wind was wrong. North of M'boro bay (and well into it) iced over again last night. This time, it is shore to shore. I can't see any open water in any direction, but see some sea smoke coming off m'boro bay, well to the south.
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:55 AM   #10
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The water temp is 36 degrees today (Friday) at Lakeport with continued cold air temps in the forecast. The ice man cometh....
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:00 AM   #11
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If the ice man is cometh, I am putting in my request for hime to leave in 102 days. Please put your request in as well.
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Old 12-19-2009, 11:07 PM   #12
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I noticed late this afternoon that the ice is forming in Meredith Bay. Skim ice from Grouse Point down to the Weirs. Not much in downtown Meredith yet. This is opposite of how the ice usually forms. Usually starts downtown and grows towards the Weirs. Lake was perfectly flat today and good for growing ice.
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Old 12-20-2009, 08:58 AM   #13
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Yesterday afternoon I saw three people huddled together on the ice on Lake Pemmigiwasset fishing. Can't be safe.
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Old 12-20-2009, 04:05 PM   #14
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The ice is safe in spots. I ventured out on it today and measured the thickness at several spots, although stayed close to the shoreline and in shallow water. A good three inches of solid black ice. The ice is very strong, with no water showing around the rocks. 3" of black ice is not "throw caution to the wind" safe, but its reasonably safe for one person walking. You can see the bubbles and the cracks all the way through the ice, it is so clear and easy to tell how deep it is. Hopefully those on Lake Pemmi took the proper precautions.
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Old 12-20-2009, 08:43 PM   #15
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The ice is safe in spots. I ventured out on it today and measured the thickness at several spots, although stayed close to the shoreline and in shallow water. A good three inches of solid black ice. The ice is very strong, with no water showing around the rocks. 3" of black ice is not "throw caution to the wind" safe, but its reasonably safe for one person walking. You can see the bubbles and the cracks all the way through the ice, it is so clear and easy to tell how deep it is. Hopefully those on Lake Pemmi took the proper precautions.
In years past (1969-1974).. I have sailed across 3" of black ice on the Broads east of Rattlesnake on a DN Iceboat. EXCELLENT. 60 MPH or better...under SAIL. Did a LOT of Ice Boating in those years. On Winni...Usually in the spring when the snow settles and freezes at night. ...right up to Ice Out. NB
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:12 PM   #16
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Ice yachting on Winni looks like fun!

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Old 12-21-2009, 07:05 AM   #17
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Mr V, that is great.

I remember 5 or six years ago we had a cold December and January with little or no snow- the ice on Waukewan was great for skating, and as it turned out, iceboating! They were awesome to watch.

Reminds me of one of the old Hardy Boys books I used to read as a kid! Cabin Island was the title I believe.
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:07 AM   #18
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I have a feeling the lake may not completely freeze this year. The water is usually much colder by this time. It may be an early ice-out, but who knows, we might get a nice long cold snap and that will get us caught up, but not with this wind we've been having!
I am not a meteorologist, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night...

If the air temps were staying above normal, I might agree with you. However, I don't think that is going to be the case this year. It looks to be pretty cold (normal or below) for at least the next week. The cold pattern could relax between Christmas and 1/15 or so, but after that we are going to go right back into the cold pattern.
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:39 AM   #19
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Looks like we are closing the water temperature gap this week. I've had the same concern that the water temps were much higher this year than typical. But Mother Nature always seems to balance it out and we're quickly getting back on track.

I'm expecting a typical ice-in with safe ice before the end of January.
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