Moultonborough Trash Inspection

[Lakegeezer]

There are many ways our privacy is violated by businesses and the government but forcing citizens to show their garbage is an added violation, pure and simple. The slide down the slippery slope continues.

[Sal]

Originally Posted by Lakegeezer

There are many ways our privacy is violated by businesses and the government but forcing citizens to show their garbage is an added violation, pure and simple. The slide down the slippery slope continues.

? Example of "slippery slope" ...... ?

1. Sound of metal or glass heard whilst trash bag makes contact with trash recepticle.

2. Militant employee of town recycling center "forces" citizen to retrieve bag and open it for inspection.

3 Upon discovery of contraband material, dumper is "forced" into removing contraband ( even if it requires the soiling of dumper's hands ) material and further "forced" to take said material to the "proper" recepticle and deposit it there.

4. As embarassed violator drives from center, license plate number is noted and enterred into log.

5. Police Department is notified of the tag number and the nature of the recycling violation.

6. P.D. obtains residential address of violater.

7. Surveillance is set up by P.D. on violator's residence and vehicle.

8. Search warrants are sought by P.D. and are granted by the court, based on the representation of "dump violation".

9. Violator's residence and vehicle are searched. Trace of illicit material is discovered in ashtray.

10. Criminal charges are comenced against the dump violator.

11. Violator seeks legal counsel. Advance fee is more than violator wishes to pay. Violator becomes severely aggitated.

12 Violator, realizing prison term is real and likely, takes his hunting rifle and ....................................



"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?"

[twoplustwo]

...would show me how to get the dog food out of the can. With the coating they put inside those buggers, the stuff doesn't want to come out.

I once got yelled at because I recycled Corona bottles without removing the limes. I do not have a lime remover. I had to switch beers

[Heaven]

Seems to me that for those who object to the town dump, there is an option of hiring your trash removed (and yes to a previous question, haulers that collect at homes and then take their truck to the dump first open all the bags and sort, triple yuk!). The cost of hiring your trash removed is your chosen expense for not desiring to recycle or have your garbage checked. Having said that, I can think of some items I have thrown away in the past (quite "legally") that I would be mortified if a random town employee got to see, so I can see the possibility of a privacy issue.

[Yosemite Sam]

Looks like the Moultonboro Citizens Alliance is getting a taste of their own medicine.

[Sman]

The attendant then demanded I retrieve the bag. So, to be faithful to the rules, climbed into crushing machine and pulled my bag back

wifi, you ever watch the fox pregame show on MNF?

I have to give you a COME ON MAN!! - you don't climb into a garbage truck, and shame on that knuckle head for asking you to

And to the other guy, you don't need to remove limes from a Corona bottle, you too COME ON MAN!!

Know when these guys are asking for something unreasonable, we are talking about trash right?

[breathe easy]

Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam

Looks like the Moultonboro Citizens Alliance is getting a taste of their own medicine.

I don't follow...??

[Yosemite Sam]

Originally Posted by breathe easy

I don't follow...??

The Moultonboro Citizens Alliance was formed to get public involvement in Town Government. They want complete transparency and will go to any effort to see that this happens. They watch every move that local government officials make which reminds me of the dump attendants going thru garbage bags.

If you look at the MCA website it looks like someone has a full time job just uploading videos and keeping track of all that is going on in the little town of Moultonboro.

Don’t get me wrong, I want all town officials to be up front with all that goes on, but I sort of feel sorry for the Moultonboro elected officials because there are so many back seat drivers that think that they can run things better.

I don’t live in Moultonboro but I get a kick out of some of the things that the Alliance does to harass the selectmen.

[Argie's Wife]

Every town has something that like - people who are always sniffing around....

As someone who works closely with my town's boards and committees, including the school board, I like to see people interested in what's going on, as long as they're respectful of the committees' or boards' time and protocols for running a meeting.

[Yosemite Sam]

Originally Posted by Argie's Wife

Every town has something that like - people who are always sniffing around....

As someone who works closely with my town's boards and committees, including the school board, I like to see people interested in what's going on, as long as they're respectful of the committees' or boards' time and protocols for running a meeting.

Moultonboro also has a blog named: Moultonboro Speaks

When you click on the above blog, it will go to a post where someone wants a local government offical to "step down".

Is there so much wrong with Moultonboro's government that they need that much scrutiny?

[Argie's Wife]

Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam

Moultonboro also has a blog named: Moultonboro Speaks

When you click on the above blog, it will go to a post where someone wants a local government offical to "step down".

Is there so much wrong with Moultonboro's government that they need that much scrutiny?

Well, it seems some of those people in those types of groups have a personal ax to grind and most certainly their own agenda. I see it come up from time to time where the most vocal ones use their outcries as fodder for their campaign for a position on a board or committee later. They're generally the LAST people you want responsible for your children's education or the policy making in your town. (What's the old saying about a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing?)

It does concern me that some of these groups go to extremes they do because some of their issues have to come to legal council, which runs up a tab with a lawyer - and they are, in fact, taking someone or something to task that was long-ago taken care of... and at the TAX PAYERS' EXPENSE! It's one thing to watch and speak up from time to time - it's quite another to manipulate a whole meeting with one's personal agenda.

[SIKSUKR]

Uh oh,will they be checking the hard drive next on my old computer?I need to restrick my surfing sites!

[Rattlesnake Guy]

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Uh oh,will they be checking the hard drive next on my old computer?I need to restrick my surfing sites!

Don't worry, they can already read it in you house.

[breathe easy]

I think all we need do is use transparent trash bags. No need to open them anymore.

[SAMIAM]

Really not a bad idea to keep an eye on town governments....some times they thumb their noses at the taxpayers.....for example, the Laconia Sun reported last week that when Meredith selectmen asked town employees to forgo their annual cost of living raise because of the bad economy....that angry employees, led by Lt Keith True of the MPD, overwhelmed town meeting with their numbers and VOTED themselves a raise.
MCA may not be such a bad thing.

[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Really not a bad idea to keep an eye on town governments....some times they thumb their noses at the taxpayers.....for example,the Laconia Sun reported last week that when Meredith selectmen asked town employees to forgo their annual cost of living raise because of the bad economy....that angry employees,led by Lt Keith True of the MPD,overwhelmed town meeting with their numbers and VOTED themselves a raise.
MCA may not be such a bad thing.

Not only is it not a bad idea, it is our Right, as American's and as Tax Payers.

First of all not enough people anymore are involved at the basic level of voting once a year. But after that even those that vote far fewer remain involved enough to make sure that the people they elect are doing what it is that they promised, when they campaigned.

As citizens in a community, especially when you own property and pay taxes you have a great many rights that people often over look. You have every right to question your elected officials, they might not like it, but you do have the right. You have the right to sit down and talk to them too.... it doesn't mean they have to make it easy for you.... but you do have the right.

[breathe easy]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

Not only is it not a bad idea, it is our Right, as American's and as Tax Payers.

First of all not enough people anymore are involved at the basic level of voting once a year. But after that even those that vote far fewer remain involved enough to make sure that the people they elect are doing what it is that they promised, when they campaigned.

As citizens in a community, especially when you own property and pay taxes you have a great many rights that people often over look. You have every right to question your elected officials, they might not like it, but you do have the right. You have the right to sit down and talk to them too.... it doesn't mean they have to make it easy for you.... but you do have the right.

I definitely agree. Many people in Moultonborough follow along like sheep whatever the town officials decide. There is nothing wrong with paying attention to how your elected officials are spending your money and holding them accountable. Remember the planning baord ordinances that were defeated last year? People paid attention. Remember the bills that Betsey Patten tried to pass last year? Didn't happen because people paid attention and voiced their opinions.

[CrawfordCentury]

Originally Posted by breathe easy

I think all we need do is use transparent trash bags. No need to open them anymore.

Not a good idea, IMO. Milton makes you buy see-thru bags from the town. They're like a buck a piece. So if you use an average of 4 bags a year, that's an additional annual expense of $200.

Nifty way to heap on a new tax, I suppose.