Windows 7

[SIKSUKR]

brk-int is correct.My incoming server is pop3 and the outgoing is smtp.Still no clue.

[Lakes Region PCs]

I just setup my relates pc on fairpoint and this is what I used for incoming and outgoing servers I believe. I will verify tomorrow seeing how it's 1am now.. but pretty sure I used:

pop3.myfairpoint.net ----> For incoming
smtp.myfairpoint.net ----> For outgoing

Think the only difference from what prk sent is the addition of the "3" after pop, again I'm not 100% positive and will double check, but if you get this tonight try it. Alsy I don't think you need to check "authentication" in the setup, as opposed to Metrocast. If you still are having probs, call me and I'll conf in the person I just set up, should be smooth sailing from there. Good luck!!!

Mike T.
[email protected]
293-4970

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

brk-int is correct. My incoming server is pop3 and the outgoing is smtp. Still no clue.

[SIKSUKR]

Mike, just so you know, I didn't just set-up this account. It's been active for months. I have not changed a thing. One day it just letting me send mail. It still recieves fine. I have all my settings written down from original entrys and copied these when I bought a new Vista os pc. It ran flawless for 5 months and then wham. I've seen this same problem has occurred with many other Vista owners and have not had any luck trying suggested fixes. If you still think you can help me I would be thrilled. Let me know.

[Lakes Region PCs]

Hey again Siksukr (great nic btw),
Brk was right you can use any one of those servers actually. I just verified what I had used when I set up the relatives system, just mail.myfairpoint.net for both incoming and outgoing. The only other thing I can think of that could affect your outgoing is this:
When you're in the properties / servers tab check under "outgoing mail" towards the bottom, under where you have your servers are typed in, and make sure "my server requires authentication" is checked. You've probably triple checked all that already but just in case....

Hope this helps,
Mike
www.lrpcs.com

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Mike, just so you know, I didn't just set-up this account. It's been active for months. I have not changed a thing. One day it just letting me send mail. It still recieves fine. I have all my settings written down from original entrys and copied these when I bought a new Vista os pc. It ran flawless for 5 months and then wham. I've seen this same problem has occurred with many other Vista owners and have not had any luck trying suggested fixes. If you still think you can help me I would be thrilled. Let me know.

[SIKSUKR]

It is. Tried both ways.

[Lakes Region PCs]

Wow that is very strange, and you can receive mail fine right? You have a router in setup? And everything else like web browsing etc works fine?

Also make sure that the "server requires auth" is the ONLY one checked, any of those other options will cause problems.

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

It is.Tried both ways.

[SIKSUKR]

Recieves just fine. Nothing else is checked.

[webmaster]

Since I didn't see it mentioned I just want to throw this out there:

Are you definitely connected to the Internet through Fairpoint? If you are connected through Metrocast they will not allow any other SMTP server on port 25 to be used. Some other ISP's have similar restrictions. Incoming POP will work but not outgoing SMTP.

If you are connected through Fairpoint and using their SMTP server they would be the ones to help you with this.

For $20 a year DYNDNS (a NH company) offers a SMTP server called MailHop Outbound that can be set to several different ports to get around ISP and network restrictions. I use it and it works great wherever I go, even with Metrocast connections.

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By the way, I've been running Windows 7 Ultimate for several weeks without any problems. I'm running VMWare Workstation 7 on it so I have Windows 7, Windows XP and Ubuntu running simultaneously on the same box. For those interested VMWare is a virtualization program that partitions one physical computer into several virtual machines. Each virtual machine can interact independently with other devices, applications, data and users as though it were a separate physical computer. The advantages are many. This site is running in a virtual machine!

[RI Swamp Yankee]

Originally Posted by webmaster

... Are you definitely connected to the Internet through Fairpoint? If you are connected through Metrocast they will not allow any other SMTP server on port 25 to be used. Some other ISP's have similar restrictions. Incoming POP will work but not outgoing SMTP....

For outgoing SMTP port change it from port 25 to port 1025. I just tested port 1025 and it works (telnet mail.myfairpoint.net 1025 and you will connect to a mail server)

{edit} My ISP, Cox, also blocks port 25

[RI Swamp Yankee]

I just realized, the previous post is for myfairpoint.net not fairpoint.net

[VtSteve]

Originally Posted by webmaster

Since I didn't see it mentioned I just want to throw this out there:

Are you definitely connected to the Internet through Fairpoint? If you are connected through Metrocast they will not allow any other SMTP server on port 25 to be used. Some other ISP's have similar restrictions. Incoming POP will work but not outgoing SMTP.

If you are connected through Fairpoint and using their SMTP server they would be the ones to help you with this.

For $20 a year DYNDNS (a NH company) offers a SMTP server called MailHop Outbound that can be set to several different ports to get around ISP and network restrictions. I use it and it works great wherever I go, even with Metrocast connections.

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By the way, I've been running Windows 7 Ultimate for several weeks without any problems. I'm running VMWare Workstation 7 on it so I have Windows 7, Windows XP and Ubuntu running simultaneously on the same box. For those interested VMWare is a virtualization program that partitions one physical computer into several virtual machines. Each virtual machine can interact independently with other devices, applications, data and users as though it were a separate physical computer. The advantages are many. This site is running in a virtual machine!

Interested in that Don. I have a client that needs to run some older DOS-based COBOL software, currently running on both W2K and XP-Pro clients. Any limitations to what VMWare can do, or is it pretty seamless?

I think we were going that way, because we wanted a backup internet server to be able to put the older systems in a bubble, so to speak.

[Lakes Region PCs]

Webmaster,
Hey there, I've been thinking about setting up a box running VMware. How is the performance though? Much degradation with all 3 OS's running, how smooth is 7?
Thanks,
Mike

Originally Posted by webmaster

Since I didn't see it mentioned I just want to throw this out there:

Are you definitely connected to the Internet through Fairpoint? If you are connected through Metrocast they will not allow any other SMTP server on port 25 to be used. Some other ISP's have similar restrictions. Incoming POP will work but not outgoing SMTP.

If you are connected through Fairpoint and using their SMTP server they would be the ones to help you with this.

For $20 a year DYNDNS (a NH company) offers a SMTP server called MailHop Outbound that can be set to several different ports to get around ISP and network restrictions. I use it and it works great wherever I go, even with Metrocast connections.

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By the way, I've been running Windows 7 Ultimate for several weeks without any problems. I'm running VMWare Workstation 7 on it so I have Windows 7, Windows XP and Ubuntu running simultaneously on the same box. For those interested VMWare is a virtualization program that partitions one physical computer into several virtual machines. Each virtual machine can interact independently with other devices, applications, data and users as though it were a separate physical computer. The advantages are many. This site is running in a virtual machine!

[brk-lnt]

I've also been a VMWare/virtualization user for years.

VMWare works pretty good overall, the biggest part of the performance seems to be related to how much physical memory you have and how you partition up amongst the virtual machines.

At the base level, all of the machines (real or virtual) are competing for a fixed set of resources (RAM, HDD, CPU), so uses where the overall load is light work best. I wouldn't try to run a processor intensive rendering application in a VM, unless there was no concern for the other machines. Same thing for HDD intensive apps, like maybe a streaming backup server that is going to be chugging a lot of data to disk.

For most normal day-to-day applications, a properly tuned VM is almost indistinguishable from a regular machine. My personal experience is that OS X and Linux host's tend to edge out Windows machines for the host in terms of overall performance and flexibility.

Virtualbox, xen and Parallels are other alternatives to VMWare.

[SIKSUKR]

Just tried port 1025 and can't get that to work either. A box pops up and asks for my username and password and it keeps coming back to that box after entering the correct names. Don, I'm definately not on Metro. As I've said in past posts, I've had no problems for months and nothing has changed from a provider standpoint or my settings. It just stopped sending one day.

[Lakes Region PCs]

It has to be something on Fairpoints end, after a quick google search, you're not the only one having email problems with these guys. Have you called them yet and have them run a log while you're trying to login and send a message? I can't think of anything else it could be......but on their end.

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Just tried port 1025 and can't get that to work either. A box pops up and asks for my username and password and it keeps coming back to that box after entering the correct names. Don, I'm definately not on Metro. As I've said in past posts, I've had no problems for months and nothing has changed from a provider standpoint or my settings. It just stopped sending one day.

[SIKSUKR]

Thanks LR PC for the feedback. I have not called them mainly because 4 others on the same server have not had one problem. My problem started shortly after buying a new pc with vista and Googling this setup tells me I'm not alone. I do have an alternate app now so I have not been expending much effort. I will contact Fairpoint to see if they can help but I really suspect it's with my Vista. The other 2 on the server use versions of XP.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Thanks LR PC for the feedback. I have not called them mainly because 4 others on the same server have not had one problem. My problem started shortly after buying a new pc with vista and Googling this setup tells me I'm not alone. I do have an alternate app now so I have not been expending much effort. I will contact Fairpoint to see if they can help but I really suspect it's with my Vista. The other 2 on the server use versions of XP.

To be clear, the *error* message is from Fairpoint's server indicating that they didn't like the format of the email message being sent out.

Your mail client (some form of Outlook, I assume) is the program that is actually constructing the email message (headers and all the other bits you don't commonly see from a user perspective) and sending it to the Fairpoint server for delivery.

It's impossible to tell from the information posted which end is the one with the real issue (is Fairpoint rejecting a standards-compliant email message, or is Outlook doing something wrong).

I would still call Fairpoint first, even though it is *probably* some setting on your PC. They have most likely gotten this problem from a lot of users and know what you need to do/change to make it all work.

[Lakes Region PCs]

Hey There Siksukr,
Hey man, did you ever get your outgoing mails to work? If not let me know, I'll keep working with you. If you want I'll come take a look at your system. No charge, just let me know if you still need help.
Mike
www.lrpcs.com
[email protected]

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Recieves just fine. Nothing else is checked.