Opposers Thread

NoBozo · 10-26-2009, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VtSteve

. Smiles and happiness used to spread like a virus, with only the most hapless malcontents unable to catch the disease. I just can't imagine living the next twenty or thirty years or more with such pent up frustration and hostility. With that much energy devoted towards being hostile toward one group or another, one can only imagine what group is next?

I used to go to another Forum (boat brand specific) which I really liked. I found the above by VtSteve to be the case. No one can SMILE anymore. Some people are just looking for some ulterior motives or agenda in your posts. When you suggest they lighten up...with a smile..you are attacked.

It got SO Tiresome that I don't go back any more. It only takes two or three on a forum to Poison the water. NB

OCDACTIVE · 10-28-2009, 09:17 PM

The part I find funniest is that those who started the supporters thread so they could discuss the law without any fear of getting into an arguement don't discuss them there.. Instead from what I have been hearing they are trolling and badgering in other threads.. makes you wonder why it was started in the first place.

Resident 2B · 10-29-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

I used to go to another Forum (boat brand specific) which I really liked. I found the above by VtSteve to be the case. No one can SMILE anymore. Some people are just looking for some ulterior motives or agenda in your posts. When you suggest they lighten up...with a smile..you are attacked.

It got SO Tiresome that I don't go back any more. It only takes two or three on a forum to Poison the water. NB

To me, they have messed up both the lake and the total enjoyment I once had on this forum. I still like both, but neither are as enjoyable as they used to be.

On the water, I enjoyed watching the fast boats running at speed on the broads. On the forum, everyone used to be genuine. Good fun and a few friendly disagreements.

If only we could turn back time. Those were great days! Maybe we can have something like "Troll-less Tuesdays" and "Fast Fridays".

R2B

OCDACTIVE · 11-09-2009, 08:02 PM

I tried starting a thread but it hasn't popped up yet... But thinking of trying to organize a get together for opposers & supporters..... I think things may be a lot more civil if we all knew each other.

I would say it would be at the lake obviously.... Before I start looking into places and dates just trying to gauge interest.

How many people would be interested and able to get together? Maybe some weekend night in January?

Let me know.

Thanks

LIforrelaxin · 11-10-2009, 12:05 PM

OCD,

Given enough Heads up I am definately in for a gathering. Loaction is not a big concern for me. Obviously as it is winter I am definately towards the south in Ma. More but, I can always head to the Lake.

OCDACTIVE · 11-17-2009, 09:52 AM

I want to concur with Vita's post in the supporters thread of:

SL opponents, I suggest respectfully that we do not comment in this thread as it is for supporters only.

However, I would also implore all to take a look at why these two threads were originally started. It was to discuss the merits without debate with your fellow supporters / opposers.

It was not to give you the ability to put up posts, photos, or case studies that are made to start a debate. Or information that shall we say is less then factual.

These were designed for you to discuss with those "your opinions" so not to draw a debate or feel that they will get at all your for their thoughts.

jmen24 · 11-17-2009, 11:02 AM

I agree totally with OCD's post. When you start to answer questions from another thread, you are opening up the debate.

VtSteve · 11-17-2009, 11:29 PM

I doubt you'll ever see the likes of APS ever answer (or own up to) deliberate falsifying wherever he posts.

I'd also like to add this to Don.

You've been far more protective of the supporters. This is an open debate, and they put up obvious BS in other threads that we get cut out of. APS is the biggest offender of all, and the other biggest offender is just so full of it, most filter him out. Not willing to discuss factual aspects of events that they themselves post is a pretty obvious indication of their own relevance.

Without them both filtered, the overall "discussion" would be most cordial, and informative.

Most of these arguments and/or discussions work themselves out when facts and good intentions are presented. When that is not allowed to happen, people get testy.

But there are certainly better boards to discuss this.

10-28-2009, 09:17 PM	#2
OCDACTIVE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Myers FL / Moultonboro Posts: 1,045 Thanks: 444 Thanked 574 Times in 178 Posts	The part I find funniest is that those who started the supporters thread so they could discuss the law without any fear of getting into an arguement don't discuss them there.. Instead from what I have been hearing they are trolling and badgering in other threads.. makes you wonder why it was started in the first place. __________________ Have you had your Vessel Inspected Yet?

11-09-2009, 08:02 PM	#4
OCDACTIVE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Myers FL / Moultonboro Posts: 1,045 Thanks: 444 Thanked 574 Times in 178 Posts	I tried starting a thread but it hasn't popped up yet... But thinking of trying to organize a get together for opposers & supporters..... I think things may be a lot more civil if we all knew each other. I would say it would be at the lake obviously.... Before I start looking into places and dates just trying to gauge interest. How many people would be interested and able to get together? Maybe some weekend night in January? Let me know. Thanks __________________ Have you had your Vessel Inspected Yet?

11-10-2009, 12:05 PM	#5
LIforrelaxin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas, Lake Ray Hubbard and NH, Long Island Winnipesaukee Posts: 2,970 Thanks: 1,064 Thanked 912 Times in 539 Posts	OCD, Given enough Heads up I am definately in for a gathering. Loaction is not a big concern for me. Obviously as it is winter I am definately towards the south in Ma. More but, I can always head to the Lake. __________________ Life is about how much time you can spend relaxing... I do it on an island that isn't really an island.....

11-17-2009, 09:52 AM	#6
OCDACTIVE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Myers FL / Moultonboro Posts: 1,045 Thanks: 444 Thanked 574 Times in 178 Posts	I want to concur with Vita's post in the supporters thread of: SL opponents, I suggest respectfully that we do not comment in this thread as it is for supporters only. However, I would also implore all to take a look at why these two threads were originally started. It was to discuss the merits without debate with your fellow supporters / opposers. It was not to give you the ability to put up posts, photos, or case studies that are made to start a debate. Or information that shall we say is less then factual. These were designed for you to discuss with those "your opinions" so not to draw a debate or feel that they will get at all your for their thoughts. __________________ Have you had your Vessel Inspected Yet? Last edited by OCDACTIVE; 11-17-2009 at 03:05 PM.

11-17-2009, 11:02 AM	#7
jmen24 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,139 Thanks: 223 Thanked 319 Times in 181 Posts	I agree totally with OCD's post. When you start to answer questions from another thread, you are opening up the debate. Last edited by jmen24; 11-17-2009 at 11:55 AM.

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11-17-2009, 11:29 PM	#8
VtSteve Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,320 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 230 Thanked 361 Times in 169 Posts	I doubt you'll ever see the likes of APS ever answer (or own up to) deliberate falsifying wherever he posts. I'd also like to add this to Don. You've been far more protective of the supporters. This is an open debate, and they put up obvious BS in other threads that we get cut out of. APS is the biggest offender of all, and the other biggest offender is just so full of it, most filter him out. Not willing to discuss factual aspects of events that they themselves post is a pretty obvious indication of their own relevance. Without them both filtered, the overall "discussion" would be most cordial, and informative. Most of these arguments and/or discussions work themselves out when facts and good intentions are presented. When that is not allowed to happen, people get testy. But there are certainly better boards to discuss this.

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