M/S Mount Washington going to drydock

[IslandRadio]

Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Gal

Earlier this summer I was told that the two diesel engines will have to be rendered unusable to get the grant for the new engines.

Yikes, that's practially a desecration Probably some federal requirement like "cash for clunkers", where the engine has to be destroyed - or something similar. There's a lot of history there. One would think some "antiquity group" could preserve the engines with the promise to never use them except for demonstration purposes.....but of course I forget - common sense in government (the grant suggests the government is involved) is an oxymoron

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by IslandRadio

Yikes, that's practially a desecration Probably some federal requirement like "cash for clunkers", where the engine has to be destroyed - or something similar. There's a lot of history there. One would think some "antiquity group" could preserve the engines with the promise to never use them except for demonstration purposes.....but of course I forget - common sense in government (the grant suggests the government is involved) is an oxymoron

It sounds like they just have to be inoperable so some of that magic goop for the clunkers should work fine- then they coule be displayed I would think.

Who knows with the Feds though.

[WeirsBeachBoater]

If you all want to pitch in I will start a Save the Engines Campaign. Maybe we can convince Uncle Sam to let us keep one in running condition if we promise that it will be a static display and not for profit?

[samosetguy]

Kids definitely still fish off the dry dock frame in the summer. I remember noticing that this summer as I was pulling out of Center Harbor. Looks like a good spot to fish.

[NoBozo]

I would think Mystic Seaport Museum might be interested, and would qualify as a "Custodian" for one of the engines. They have quite a few large and small marine engines that are kept in running condition and are run One Weekend a year for demonstration. The rest of the year they remain as static displays. NB

[CL 240 LS]

Lets keep it local!
http://www.nhbm.org/

[Resident 2B]

Originally Posted by CL 240 LS

Lets keep it local!
http://www.nhbm.org/

I agree. Keep it in New Hampshire!

R2B

[NoBozo]

I guess I missed something along the way.....the engines will be DESTROYED if they stay local. Destroyed means they will No Longer be able to RUN.....is that what you want..?? The NH Antique Boat Museum "Theme" is not geared to BIG marine engines. I am interested in the engines surviving in running condition....................... NB

PS: An Alternative: Keep one engine in NH as a static display and send the other one to Mystic where many more people can see it actually RUN.

[Resident 2B]

Originally Posted by NoBozo

I guess I missed something along the way.....the engines will be DESTROYED if they stay local. Destroyed means they will No Longer be able to RUN.....is that what you want..?? The NH Antique Boat Museum "Theme" is not geared to BIG marine engines. I am interested in the engines surviving in running condition....................... NB

PS: An Alternative: Keep one engine in NH as a static display and send the other one to Mystic where many more people can see it actually RUN.

Good points!

R2B

[no-engine]

Make an above board discussion with officers of the corporation which owns the Ship...............
I'm sure they are just as concerned with historic education...

[StephenB]

I was on tonight's Sunday sunset cruise. I've been visiting the Mount since I was a kid in the 1970s as well as having lived on the lake for a bit and I think I'm going to miss that very distinct exhaust note that used to wake me up on summer mornings years ago as the Mount made its way out of Weirs Beach. (Don't all teenagers sleep in?) On a calm day, with my window open, I could hear it a mile away. Tonight I noticed that the engines shake the ship pretty good at cruise. I suppose the new engines will be higher RPM machines and will be quite different.

It'll be fun to see the change.

But gosh, cutting the hull open? How can you folks at WFC bear to watch? I don't know how they ever got up the courage to cut her open back in 1982 either.

[jmen24]

Originally Posted by NoBozo

I guess I missed something along the way.....the engines will be DESTROYED if they stay local. Destroyed means they will No Longer be able to RUN.....is that what you want..?? The NH Antique Boat Museum "Theme" is not geared to BIG marine engines. I am interested in the engines surviving in running condition....................... NB

PS: An Alternative: Keep one engine in NH as a static display and send the other one to Mystic where many more people can see it actually RUN.

The idea is to ABIDE by the conditions of the grant.

Why do they need to be in running condition to be on static display? The engines will be rendered to a non-running state. How many people have never seen an engine run? "Hey mom look at that large metal block making noise with a spinning shaft out the back".

These belong in NH and who cares if they still operate. Put one on display in the Weirs or Meredith or Center Harbor or where ever the mount will continue to travel so that future patrons waiting for the ship to arrive can go in and observe a piece of the mounts history. One could build a large glass display case to house the engine, with one side in normal condition and the other in cut away view to see the inner workings of the power plant (something not everyone has had the ability to see). Followed along with a number of writings posted within regarding the history of the engines and the vessel. This could even be displayed outdoors with this case.

Do not get me wrong, Mystic is cool and all, but Conneticut??? with a piece of NH tradition and scenery, get the h**l out of here!

[Rattlesnake Gal]

Does anyone have the ability to get a recording of her before it's too late?

CanisLupusArctos - where are you? Can you get a recording or tell us what we need? Thanks!

RG

[LIforrelaxin]

So here is food for thought seeing everyone is worried about keeping the engines in running condition....

--- what good does this do us... I for one, am not excited at all to see an engine run for no reason.... besides, to be an impressive run, the engine would have to be loaded.....

--- if one of these engines was kept in working order, how often would it be run..... not often would be my guess....

--- the idea behind things like this is to get less efficient, higher poluting engines out of service.... the only way to truely ensure these engines will not be used again is to sieze them.....

--- In my mind the best idea which has been previously mentioned is that of a static display with part of the engine cut away to show the inner workings.....

[WeirsBeachBoater]

Based on New info to me. My post was no longer correct in it's statement. DELETED

[Lakesrider]

Has anyone asked the crew if they knew what was going to happen to the engines? Maybe the Company could shed some light on their demise....

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Lakesrider

Has anyone asked the crew if they knew what was going to happen to the engines? Maybe the Company could shed some light on their demise....

In a time of National Emergency, those engines were "borrowed" out of necessity; someday, they could be needed again—perhaps in an even more vital function, such as food production or transport.

[NoBozo]

Here Here: TOTALLY AGREE. Last week there was a get together of 200 Model A Fords up at Castle in The Clouds. What if O'Bama had destroyed ALL those cars..............ALL those '57 Chevys...ALL those '40 Fords, and other Restored Classics we go to see every summer?

There is 1940 Lincoln Zephyr V12 Convertable over in Melvin Village For Sale. You know the place. What if O'Bama were to Destroy that car..?? NB

[StephenB]

Originally Posted by NoBozo

Here Here: TOTALLY AGREE. Last week there was a get together of 200 Model A Fords up at Castle in The Clouds. What if O'Bama had destroyed ALL those cars..............ALL those '57 Chevys...ALL those '40 Fords, and other Restored Classics we go to see every summer?

There is 1940 Lincoln Zephyr V12 Convertable over in Melvin Village For Sale. You know the place. What if O'Bama were to Destroy that car..?? NB

Most of the 1963 Chrysler Turbine cars that were handed out to people for test purposes were scrapped after the road tests because Chrysler supposedly didn't want to pay the import duties on the car bodies which had been designed and built in Italy.

Sometimes you just want to scream when the government decides something has to be scrapped.

I like the idea of a cut away engine on display somewhere.