Not one MP seen on the lake all day

BroadHopper · 08-28-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

To keep the MP happy about not leaving a waterski floating out there, maybe try a one-ski, dock start. Sit on the edge of the dock with one ski with about 15' of tow rope slack and yell HIT IT.

And, off you go on one slalom ski......piece-o-cake......so easy even a fatlazyless can do it!

Use to do that before the 150' rule. One of the perks that was outlawed..........

Dave R · 08-29-2009, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Use to do that before the 150' rule. One of the perks that was outlawed..........

I'm pretty certain the law has a provision that still allows it.

Rattlesnake Guy · 08-29-2009, 09:17 AM

Agree,
You can pull a skier from closer than 150 if the boat is headed straight out. (The wake never comes ashore)

BroadHopper · 08-29-2009, 10:30 AM

I'm sure Skip can help us out on this one.

upthesaukee · 08-30-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper

I'm sure Skip can help us out on this one.

The RSA is found here:

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/.../270-d-mrg.htm

and is found in section D:2.VI.b.1. or there abouts

BroadHopper · 08-30-2009, 10:19 AM

Thanks for the clarification! If I should get pulled over, as some of my colleagues have gotten warnings, I will bring this up!

I was good at taking off from the dock. I was also good at taking off from the beach and 'landing' on the beach! Although this provision did not say anything about being able to do so.

beagle · 08-30-2009, 07:32 PM

I thought that our boating certificate instructor told us that you can't start from shore or a dock. But if you can, I have one more question. We live on a point, where our dock is parallel to the neighbors shore. Several times this summer, the renters next door have been starting skiing from shore or close to it. They are also well within 150 feet of our shore and dock where the wake does hit our shoreline and boat (they are starting out straight from their shore but because of our point they also are starting out directly behind our boat). Is this legal? I ask because the wake is really pulling on our boat and in turn our boat is pulling on our crank-up aluminum dock. I hope this makes sense, I'm not good at drawing diagrams like Dave R.!
I'd appreciate an answer so I know whether or not to tell them to stop. Thanks.

jrc · 08-30-2009, 08:02 PM

The laws is pretty simple:

VI. (a) ... all vessels shall maintain headway speed when within 150 feet from:
(1) Rafts, floats, swimmers.
(2) Permitted swimming areas.
(3) Shore.
(4) Docks.
(5) Mooring fields.
(6) Other vessels.
(b) These requirements shall not apply when:
(1) Starting skiers from shore, docks or floats, as long as neither the boat nor the skier is endangering the life or safety of any person.
...

BH as I read it, it's ok to start a skier from shore or dock but not drop them off.

VtSteve · 08-30-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by beagle

I thought that our boating certificate instructor told us that you can't start from shore or a dock. But if you can, I have one more question. We live on a point, where our dock is parallel to the neighbors shore. Several times this summer, the renters next door have been starting skiing from shore or close to it. They are also well within 150 feet of our shore and dock where the wake does hit our shoreline and boat (they are starting out straight from their shore but because of our point they also are starting out directly behind our boat). Is this legal? I ask because the wake is really pulling on our boat and in turn our boat is pulling on our crank-up aluminum dock. I hope this makes sense, I'm not good at drawing diagrams like Dave R.!
I'd appreciate an answer so I know whether or not to tell them to stop. Thanks.

Regardless of what the law says they can and/or cannot do, they shouldn't be doing it. If it upsets your boat and dock that much, they should have the common courtesy to not do it.

If the law is in question? One must ask the question about damaging or disrupting property at a dock.

BroadHopper · 08-31-2009, 08:37 AM

It is possible to ski in. The boat may be 150' out. You ski in on the 75' of rope and let go. Ski as much as you can before losing momentum.

As for damage to shoreland and dock. It is my property so I take responsibility of damage. My neighbors are beyond 150' of my dock.

The point is, MPOs seems to enforce to 150' rule even though there is a provision that exempt skiers when taking off from a dock, raft or shore SAFELY.

KonaChick · 08-31-2009, 09:54 AM

It's legal but regardless, they are still responsible for the wake their boat makes if I understand the law correctly.

beagle · 08-31-2009, 06:34 PM

Now that I know that it is legal to ski from shore, I won't complain about that! But they are still accelerating the boat within 150 feet of my side of the shore, that doesn't count?

SIKSUKR · 09-01-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by beagle

Now that I know that it is legal to ski from shore, I won't complain about that! But they are still accelerating the boat within 150 feet of my side of the shore, that doesn't count?

As long as they are pulling a skier and head immediately away from shore that is ok.

08-29-2009, 10:30 AM	#4
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,669 Thanks: 3,282 Thanked 1,132 Times in 814 Posts	Can't find the provision I'm sure Skip can help us out on this one. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

08-30-2009, 10:19 AM	#6
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,669 Thanks: 3,282 Thanked 1,132 Times in 814 Posts	Thanks Upthesaukee Thanks for the clarification! If I should get pulled over, as some of my colleagues have gotten warnings, I will bring this up! I was good at taking off from the dock. I was also good at taking off from the beach and 'landing' on the beach! Although this provision did not say anything about being able to do so. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

08-30-2009, 07:32 PM	#7
beagle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wolfeboro Posts: 178 Thanks: 188 Thanked 25 Times in 21 Posts	okay one more question I thought that our boating certificate instructor told us that you can't start from shore or a dock. But if you can, I have one more question. We live on a point, where our dock is parallel to the neighbors shore. Several times this summer, the renters next door have been starting skiing from shore or close to it. They are also well within 150 feet of our shore and dock where the wake does hit our shoreline and boat (they are starting out straight from their shore but because of our point they also are starting out directly behind our boat). Is this legal? I ask because the wake is really pulling on our boat and in turn our boat is pulling on our crank-up aluminum dock. I hope this makes sense, I'm not good at drawing diagrams like Dave R.! I'd appreciate an answer so I know whether or not to tell them to stop. Thanks.

08-31-2009, 08:37 AM	#10
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,669 Thanks: 3,282 Thanked 1,132 Times in 814 Posts	Possible to ski in It is possible to ski in. The boat may be 150' out. You ski in on the 75' of rope and let go. Ski as much as you can before losing momentum. As for damage to shoreland and dock. It is my property so I take responsibility of damage. My neighbors are beyond 150' of my dock. The point is, MPOs seems to enforce to 150' rule even though there is a provision that exempt skiers when taking off from a dock, raft or shore SAFELY. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

08-31-2009, 06:34 PM	#12
beagle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wolfeboro Posts: 178 Thanks: 188 Thanked 25 Times in 21 Posts	Thanks for the responses! Now that I know that it is legal to ski from shore, I won't complain about that! But they are still accelerating the boat within 150 feet of my side of the shore, that doesn't count?

08-29-2009, 09:17 AM	#3
Rattlesnake Guy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,254 Thanks: 423 Thanked 366 Times in 175 Posts	Agree, You can pull a skier from closer than 150 if the boat is headed straight out. (The wake never comes ashore)

08-30-2009, 08:02 PM	#8
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	The laws is pretty simple: VI. (a) ... all vessels shall maintain headway speed when within 150 feet from: (1) Rafts, floats, swimmers. (2) Permitted swimming areas. (3) Shore. (4) Docks. (5) Mooring fields. (6) Other vessels. (b) These requirements shall not apply when: (1) Starting skiers from shore, docks or floats, as long as neither the boat nor the skier is endangering the life or safety of any person. ... BH as I read it, it's ok to start a skier from shore or dock but not drop them off.

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08-31-2009, 09:54 AM	#11
KonaChick Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 518 Thanks: 19 Thanked 62 Times in 15 Posts	It's legal but regardless, they are still responsible for the wake their boat makes if I understand the law correctly.

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