Speed limit permanent to be filed!

[OCDACTIVE]

Originally Posted by jrc

Of course BI, you have honestly reported your motivation for a speed limit for some time.

But others have a different motivation:

Very well said... While I do not always agree with BI, he has always stayed true to his beliefs. Some of which I personally feel are unfounded but that is what discussions and debates are for....

As mentioned others have a completely different agenda and are not willing to particiapte in civil conversations.

[EricP]

Well if they read the forum then they apparently don't care to listen to the majority and instead fall victim to the fear factor, which is unfounded. They should also know they won't get my vote next time and hopefully others here will let them know where their votes are going. I sat in the public meeting in Concord and couldn't believe what I was hearing, mostly rhetoric and catch phrases, like the wild west, and such. Anway I hope this move gets defeated as wellas those who voted it in, I don't want to be represented by people who can't see through the bs.

[Shreddy]

Originally Posted by EricP

Well if they read the forum then they apparently don't care to listen to the majority and instead fall victim to the fear factor, which is unfounded. They should also know they won't get my vote next time and hopefully others here will let them know where their votes are going. I sat in the public meeting in Concord and couldn't believe what I was hearing, mostly rhetoric and catch phrases, like the wild west, and such. Anway I hope this move gets defeated as wellas those who voted it in, I don't want to be represented by people who can't see through the bs.

First, in NO WAY do I condone a speed limit. I go 65 ALL THE TIME in my jet ski regardless of the speed limit. I do it the same way I've done it for the past eight years, properly and safely.

The law is completely irrelevant to a majority feeling on the topic. It's about what SOME (few) believe is a safety issue. If it was about majority, this world would be screwed hahaha. For instance, I think you would probably see a majority of people for 75mph on I-93 rather than 65mph...Gotta draw the line somewhere.

It truly is a hard topic/discussion. I personally (and I'm sure some will agree) believe the speed limit is the LEAST of problems on this lake. Too many operators buy new boats, rent boats, etc. without knowing how to operate them. They don't educate themselves, they aren't familiar with the lake, etc. These are the problems (along with the obvious drinking and operating) that we face. Speed limits are irrelevant to this issue. The lake will never be perfect, but as stated many times, if the laws in place could simply be enforced regularly, many will feel safer and be happier.

I am FOR a speed limit after dusk. There needs to be a line drawn there. It is extremely dark on the lake. Proper judgement needs to be used, as stated in the law currently. Plain and Simple.

Here is a new thought (I think)...How about simply enacting a Lake Winnipesaukee License. Can't operate on the lake without proper certification. The exam should be relevant to all of the rules that apply to Lake Winnipesaukee. Just a suggestion...disagree and I'll take no hard feelings.

Wow, it's way too hard to convey one's thoughts and feelings about this issue by typing. In a normal conversation, I would have much more to bring to the table. However, I simply don't have the time to write a novel. :-)

[EricP]

Originally Posted by Shreddy

Here is a new thought (I think)...How about simply enacting a Lake Winnipesaukee License. Can't operate on the lake without proper certification. The exam should be relevant to all of the rules that apply to Lake Winnipesaukee. Just a suggestion...disagree and I'll take no hard feelings.

The boating certificate was supposed to take care of this. I took a ride down to Lakeport Landing earlier today to get gas. Passed several boats that appeared to be within 150' of boats near them. I am amazed that they get this close to others at speed. It daned on me that some of these people come from other lakes in other states that have no such rules and they are used to getting this close to other boats at speed and think nothing of it. This doesn't absolve them, but just explains things. Then we wondered how many we saw actually have there certificates. We saw one guy on a SeaDoo towing 2 kids in a towable. No spotters! Talk about a violation and safetly problem! He obviously doesn't have a boating certificate or deos he? That is part of the problem, and he definitely wasn't speeding.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Shreddy

"...First...I go 65 ALL THE TIME in my jet ski regardless of the speed limit..."

This season, we've been reading several similar quotes that indicate an attitude against boating regulations unique to New Hampshire.

How is the attitude of "Cap'n 'B'" different?

[Shreddy]

Originally Posted by Acres per Second

This season, we've been reading several similar quotes that indicate an attitude against boating regulations unique to New Hampshire.

How is the attitude of "Cap'n 'B'" different?

I'm glad you know the attitude of cap'n B. You must be pretty good friends with him. Which, in my eyes, would leave me to believe he's rubbed off on you a bit. I boat regularly (over 20 years) on the lake and know the lake extremely well. If I recall correctly, unless stated otherwise, I always assumed a "cap'n B" was someone who made dumb actions that jeopardized safety. I always operate with safety first.

Tell me you have never gone over the speed limit in your car, rolled a stop sign, been within 150 ft. of another boater OR a no wake zone while making a wake, etc...SAFETY FIRST. If you want to regulate me, then become MP or call them when you find me breaking the laws.

How about a nice glass of {removed}

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Shreddy

"...I..always assumed a "cap'n B" was someone who made dumb actions that jeopardized safety..."

Cap'n "B" can be "picking and choosing" which of NH's laws to break.

Cap'n "B" also may be ignorant of NH's unique boating laws.

Of those in the latter category, I can feel some compassion.

I drive through 13 states twice a year, and have no idea what laws I may be breaking as I drive. In Florida, you may not drive with your "flashers" on. In New York, there are places that you are required to!

For tunnels? Headlights ON! (Or Headlights OFF!).

In this past decade, Florida permitted the transport of a murdered body in the trunk of one's car.

Florida won't permit any front-windshield stickers: North Carolina does allow stickers.

Do I need to get into the various states' window-tint laws or the transportation of firearms laws?

Originally Posted by Shreddy

"...I always operate with safety first..."

Yes, of course you do.

Among those in observance of New Hampshire's laws for Lake Winnipesaukee , 50 percent would place themselves into the "above average" class.

[Shreddy]

Originally Posted by Acres per Second

In this past decade, Florida permitted the transport of a murdered body in the trunk of one's car.

For the record, a similar law applies still in NH. You can have a dead body in the trunk of your car and you DO NOT have to pop the trunk for them, per my law professor. They can search the rest of your car, however, not the trunk.

[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by Shreddy

For the record, a similar law applies still in NH. You can have a dead body in the trunk of your car and you DO NOT have to pop the trunk for them, per my law professor. They can search the rest of your car, however, not the trunk.

In NH, LEOs need a search warrant to search your car. However, they are warant to search your vehicle if they found probable cause, such as an open alcohol container, or smell drugs etc.

[Shreddy]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

In NH, LEOs need a search warrant to search your car. However, they are warant to search your vehicle if they found probable cause, such as an open alcohol container, or smell drugs etc.

Correct, however. They CANNOT search your trunk without consent. I believe this is with or without a search warrant.

[Mee-n-Mac]

Originally Posted by Shreddy

Correct, however. They CANNOT search your trunk without consent. I believe this is with or without a search warrant.

I'm 99.999% sure that with a warrant they don't need your consent. That's kinda the whole purpose of the warrant.

[SIKSUKR]

Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE

Very well said... While I do not always agree with BI, he has always stayed true to his beliefs. Some of which I personally feel are unfounded but that is what discussions and debates are for....

As mentioned others have a completely different agenda and are not willing to particiapte in civil conversations.

Absolutely agree. I am on opposite side of the SL law but totally respect BI as he makes no bones about how he feels. This man has gone on adventures that I will only dream about. Big respect factor there.He knows very well my passion for this issue in the past two years.When he went on his Antarctic excursion this winter, I followed it and e-mailed him. He was gracious enough to return the mail from below the Antarctic circle without any attitude. I had a little different attitude myself after that. Fight the good fight and above all, keep it civil because yes, people think different than me. I don't quite understand that yet though!