Shorefront project questions-Shore things?

codeman671 · 09-15-2008, 09:14 PM

We are looking at a piece of property on the lake that sits high on a hill (basically a cliff) with what I estimate 40 steps down an existing and very dangerous rock walkway cut into the face of the hill. The existing dock is an ancient, small piling dock that was put there mainly for swimming as it has rocks that come completely out of the water on both sides. This would have to be removed.

My questions are as follows:

With the new DES laws in effect (if they have any effect on this beyond the past rules), what is the rules regarding building a stairway down the hill to access the frontage/docking? Without it, the shoreline is basically unusable.

The frontage is enough to allow for 6 legal boat slips (over 400' of frontage), our intent would be to install 3 permament piling docks to permit 4 boat slips (length based on water depths and allowable slip length (25' of slip length from 3' of water at full lake if I recall as correct) with a walkway along the shoreline connecting and acting as a landing for the stairs. What is the allowable depth from shore for the landing/connecting walkway? Being that with 3 fingers/4 slips we would be well under allowable impact, can that walkway along shore be made fairly deep to provide a deck/patio area along the shore?

Is there any kind of perched beach or dug-in beach setup that you have seen used in this type of situation?

Assume the frontage to have a similar look to that of the Adirondacks near Minge Cove that sit high in the hill.

09-15-2008, 09:14 PM	#1
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,604 Thanks: 223 Thanked 856 Times in 519 Posts	Shorefront project questions-Shore things? We are looking at a piece of property on the lake that sits high on a hill (basically a cliff) with what I estimate 40 steps down an existing and very dangerous rock walkway cut into the face of the hill. The existing dock is an ancient, small piling dock that was put there mainly for swimming as it has rocks that come completely out of the water on both sides. This would have to be removed. My questions are as follows: With the new DES laws in effect (if they have any effect on this beyond the past rules), what is the rules regarding building a stairway down the hill to access the frontage/docking? Without it, the shoreline is basically unusable. The frontage is enough to allow for 6 legal boat slips (over 400' of frontage), our intent would be to install 3 permament piling docks to permit 4 boat slips (length based on water depths and allowable slip length (25' of slip length from 3' of water at full lake if I recall as correct) with a walkway along the shoreline connecting and acting as a landing for the stairs. What is the allowable depth from shore for the landing/connecting walkway? Being that with 3 fingers/4 slips we would be well under allowable impact, can that walkway along shore be made fairly deep to provide a deck/patio area along the shore? Is there any kind of perched beach or dug-in beach setup that you have seen used in this type of situation? Assume the frontage to have a similar look to that of the Adirondacks near Minge Cove that sit high in the hill.