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Old 10-28-2006, 11:06 PM   #1
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Exclamation Man overboard from the mount!

Channel 9 (WMUR Manchester) is reporting one person overboard and missing near Welch Island. Apparently fell off the Mount on its Halloween Cruise.

Promising more details as they become available.....
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Old 10-28-2006, 11:33 PM   #2
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Scanner traffic indicates that there are boats from Gilford, Alton, Laconia and Moultonboro out searching. I've not heard anything to indicate that they've located anyone yet, but I was away from the scanner for a bit so please don't consider that gospel.

I'll be listening for a while longer, and if I hear anything I'll post back.

Edit: For those who care, the call went out at just a minute or two after 10:00PM, and there were search boats in the water within minutes! Lakes Region Dispatch does an amazing job of managing traffic in these types of situations, and responders from multiple municipalities sprung into action immediately. We're very blessed to have such a cooperative spirit among the responders of various communities, and such efficient call management from the dispatch center.
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Lakes Region Dispatch just reported that the search has been terminated for tonight.

My prayers are with all those who engaged in the search thus far, will engage in further searching tomorrow, and of course with the person who remains in the water.

So scary.
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Post Early news coverage:

First short article to appear in the FOSTER'S/CITIZEN.

The MANCHESTER UNION LEADER also contains a very short story on their respective web site.
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So scary! I was listening to the scanner, too, Pepper. I second your post, Lakes Region did a great job. I hope for good news today. Sad.
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Just spoke with my brother who was on the cruise last night and just saw the man's feet go over the rail near the bow. He's the one that reported it to the captain. He's pretty shaken up this morning about the whole thing.
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Old 10-29-2006, 09:52 AM   #7
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We were on the boat as well. The lake was suprisingly calm considering the weather earlier in the day. We spent about a hour "drifting" in the broads, at the time, not knowing why.

Thoughts and prayers for those involved.

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Old 10-29-2006, 10:37 AM   #8
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Its funny, my plan was to post this morning that despite all the bad weather warnings the Mount slip out last night into a quiet, moon light night. Sounds like this accident has nothing to do with weather at all. Hopefully we will get good news on the outcome.
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Just spoke with my brother who was on the cruise last night and just saw the man's feet go over the rail near the bow. He's the one that reported it to the captain.
Must have been a tall person...

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GWC...i bet you're going to be a "troll" for Halloween!
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Exclamation Search suspended again due to weather....

According to WMUR-TV the search commenced again today at sunrise, but was suspended at around 11:00 am this morning due to poor weather conditions.
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Old 10-29-2006, 01:51 PM   #12
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Just got back from a walk on the boardwalk and theres a sign in the Mounts ticket office that reads:

Sunday, October 29th
Due to weather
conditions, the MOUNT
will not be cruising today.
See you in 2007!

Take it for what its worth, a sad day all around.
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One can only assume that the victim was sitting on the railing. How else do you get over? It's intentionally high. Sadly, it seems that this was a very unfortunate, yet highly preventable, mishap.
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Old 10-30-2006, 02:43 AM   #14
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Just wondering: if this person went overboard near the bow, wouldn't he have more likely than not been run over by the boat and perhaps drawn into the propellors? Not much chance of a happy ending on this one.
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Post Manchester Union Leader update...

....the Manchester Union Leader has an updated story this morning reporting that the individual in question fell from the lower portion of the vessel.

While the WMUR website has yet to be updated their newsdesk is reporting this morning that the search should commence again today at around 8:00 am.

Edit: add latest update from the Citizen on-line.

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....the Manchester Union Leader has an updated story this morning reporting that the individual in question fell from the lower portion of the vessel.

While the WMUR website has yet to be updated their newsdesk is reporting this morning that the search should commence again today at around 8:00 am.

Edit: add latest update from the Citizen on-line.
Interesting, though sad, the Laconia Citizen Online has a different article than your link and reports the incident occurred on the upper deck, while the NH Union Leader online edition reported it occurred on the lower deck.

http://www.citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll...130/-1/CITIZEN
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WMUR.com has identified the victim as a 45 year old Hooksett man.
http://www.wmur.com/news/10189843/detail.html
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:04 PM   #18
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The man has been identified as James Sylvestre. The search is about over for today but will resume on Tuesday.

I am a reporter for the Concord Monitor and I am trying to write a story about the party on the Mount and Mr. Sylvestre that describes his as more than only the man who went overboard.
If any of his friends are reading and can add some more positive details about Mr. Sylvestre's life, can they reach me at 369-3323 or [email protected]?

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Annmarie Timmins has done some wonderful work for a mutual friend of hers and mine, the Silva family of Loudon. Hopefully someone here can help her put together a wonderful piece on the victim of this accident as well.

Best of luck Annmarie.
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I am a reporter for the Concord Monitor and I am trying to write a story about the party on the Mount and Mr. Sylvestre that describes his as more than only the man who went overboard.


Thank you,
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I not sure I understand this statement.Did someone else go overboard?Was the the party overboard?Are we talking about it was more than his life that went overboard?Very confusing.
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The lake is finally calm this morning, after three days of high winds. A NH Fish & Game helicopter is currently slowly searching the area between Rattlesnake and Sleepers Islands, and between the islands and Smalls Cove and Minge Cove in West Alton.

Edit: According to the Laconia Citizen, the helicopter we saw is owned by the NH State Police, not the Fish and Game Dept.
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I not sure I understand this statement.Did someone else go overboard?Was the the party overboard?Are we talking about it was more than his life that went overboard?Very confusing,especially for a reporter.
I expected better then this from the forum regulars. This reporter is trying to gather info on a man who would otherwise be simply known as "the guy who fell off the mount", and your taking pot shots at her. Perhaps you should read some of her articles before questioning her reporting abilities.
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I expected better then this from the forum regulars. This reporter is trying to gather info on a man who would otherwise be simply known as "the guy who fell off the mount", and your taking pot shots at her. Perhaps you should read some of her articles before questioning her reporting abilities.
I was confused here too. I think the reporter's request could have been clearer: "I am a reporter for the Concord Monitor and I am trying to write a story about the party on the Mount and Mr. Sylvestre that describes him as more than only (meaning "just" or "simply") the man who went overboard."
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I was confused here too. I think the reporter's request could have been clearer
My point is we are all guilty of poorly worded posts, lets not hang someone who's looking to do a good deed over one. Now before I start a flame war I'll drop the subject, hopefully those that know the victim will research some of the reporters articles or PM me, then decide for themselves if they want to help her out.
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I expected better then this from the forum regulars. This reporter is trying to gather info on a man who would otherwise be simply known as "the guy who fell off the mount", and your taking pot shots at her. Perhaps you should read some of her articles before questioning her reporting abilities.
Wow!Chill out.?I didn't understand what she was asking or stating.Apparently I was not the only one.If it's my last line you are refering to,I have removed it.I think that her statement was very confusing.There is no need to flame me for not understanding something that is clearly confusing.
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Old 11-01-2006, 10:18 PM   #26
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Orion,
I didn't mean that we shouldn't talk about it on the forum. I just wanted to speak to the issue of the press using out of context quotes that were not part of a consented to interview. Speculation is fine, but we all know that what we say can get twisted.
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Interesting, though sad, the Laconia Citizen Online has a different article than your link and reports the incident occurred on the upper deck, while the NH Union Leader online edition reported it occurred on the lower deck.
http://www.citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll...130/-1/CITIZEN
Err, did someone say "accuracy in the media"?

Anyway, in today's update found at Foster's Daily Democrat/Citizen, F&G officials are quoted as saying the incident occured on the lower right deck near the bow.
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That would be true from the top deck but look how low the rail is on the lower deck.It looks like it is at the mans hip area.
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I heard the first call as well and was hoping it was a false call. We can only hope and pray the guy made it to an island and somehow found shelter.

I also feel for the rescue crews....I can't imagine trying to search for someone in the dark and the weather conditons etc. Special thoughts to them as well.

We were just talking about this last weekend. Does anyone know if this has happened before? I have heard of kids jumping off in the summer....in the daylight but not this time of year etc!

A real sad way to end the season! The Mount crew does such a great job during the season it must be very hard for them too!

My thoughts to all involved!
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I couldn't help but wonder if this was a Haloween prank in the worst fashion. I wonder if anyone actually saw the PERSON standing at the rail, or if the witness saw legs and feet. With that, I am not discrediting the witness in any way, but merely stating that the witness may have fallen into the prank as it was planned. I know that I would have myself. It seems odd that nothing of this sort has happened througout the summer, with plenty of alcohol flowing . Now, in costume season......
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RumGuy Unfortunately it does not appear to be a Halloween prank. This last sentence in today's Associated Press story on the incident seems to indicate that authorities know who the victim is.
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The victim is a New Hampshire resident. His name hasn't been released yet because relatives still are being notified.
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My name is Roger Amsden. I am a news correspondent for the Union Leader and am looking for information regarding the man overboard on the Mount.
You can e-mail me at [email protected] or call me at 366-2357 or 524-8078. Any information which helps me get the facts straight would be greatly appreciated.

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Just got back from EM Heath Hardware and saw the Mount is back in the winter dock. It amazes that me that someone could fall over the lower rail unless they loss there footing.
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Looking at the bow configuration, if the Mount was making a turn and it was still very windy that night, the wind could pocket in that space between the upper and lower decks ahead of that bulkhead, and create a gust which could catch someone off guard as it went through the turn. Winds were still around 15-20 mph at that time. Maybe a costume which could catch the wind as well?
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Looking at the bow configuration, if the Mount was making a turn and it was still very windy that night, the wind could pocket in that space between the upper and lower decks ahead of that bulkhead, and create a gust which could catch someone off guard as it went through the turn. Winds were still around 15-20 mph at that time. Maybe a costume which could catch the wind as well?
Viable conclusion, except it's basically a straight shot between Rattlesnake Island and Welch Island. The incident seems to have happened near Welch Island, which would not lend credence to a turning scenario. From Welch Island, the Mount would travel between Timber Island and the Witches, Governor and Eagle Islands, and on toward the Weirs.

It's still a sad situation, whatever the cause.
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The NH Fish and Game Dept. issued the following news release this afternoon:
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News from the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department
October 31, 2006
Phone: (603) 271-3211
Email: [email protected]
For information and online licenses, visit http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us

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CONTACT:
Capt. Martin Garabedian: (603) 271-3361
Liza Poinier: (603) 271-3211
October 31, 2006

SEARCH FOR HOOKSETT MAN CONTINUES ON LAKE WINNIPESAUKEE

CONCORD, N.H. -- Search operations continued today for the recovery of James Sylvestre, age 45, of Hooksett, New Hampshire, who is presumed drowned after falling overboard from the M/S Mount Washington excursion ship on Saturday night, October 28, 2006, on Lake Winnipesaukee.

Search efforts were hampered on Sunday and Monday due to the high winds and rough water conditions. Tuesday, New Hampshire Fish and Game and N.H. Marine Patrol officers were joined in the search effort by New Hampshire and Connecticut State Police.

The N.H. State Police helicopter conducted a search of the lake and shoreline in the area of Rattlesnake Island.

Connecticut State Police are using a specialized underwater side-scan sonar unit capable of searching large areas of open water.

The search area is concentrated in the area of Welch and Rattlesnake islands, with water depths of 50 to 100 feet. The search will continue until dark, and if necessary, will resume on Wednesday morning, November 1.

N.H. Marine Patrol is conducting an investigation into the incident. Lt. James Goss of the N.H. Fish and Game Department is conducting the recovery effort.

No further information is available at this time.

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Let's let the "reporters" research the facts and not let this forum be an easy source for them to pickup idle chatter which may or not be true. No criticism of anyone intended. I've seen too many inquiries by reporters inviting us to "talk" and thereby invite speculation quotes that are reported as facts.
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Let's let the "reporters" research the facts and not let this forum be an easy source for them to pickup idle chatter which may or not be true. No criticism of anyone intended. I've seen too many inquiries by reporters inviting us to "talk" and thereby invite speculation quotes that are reported as facts.
This IS a forum, and the purpose of a forum is for discussion. If a reporter uses speculation from a forum for a story, then he/she is no reporter.
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Just read the Concord Monitor online. They mentioned something about looking the safety records. Has the Mount had any mishaps that could reported?
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Pineneedles:

I am pretty sure that a reporter wouldn't take informaton directly from the web site. Rather, they are looking for people who might have been involved in the incident to intreview as potential sources of information.
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Just read the Concord Monitor online. They mentioned something about looking the safety records. Has the Mount had any mishaps that could reported?
Let me start by saying I don't know what happened, this all conjecture. But safety means a lot of things. It refers to maintanance on the vessel and its systems, and it refers to training of the operational crew of the vessel. But it also refers to the hospitality people and their training. Remember a lot of bartenders and bar owners have been sued because someone they served had an accident.
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